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Old 07-13-12 | 10:06 AM
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You're welcome. I should probably add that reportedly neither Ridley Scott nor screenwriter David Peoples actually read Dick's novel.
Reminds me of when Ronny Yu got to direct Freddy vs Jason and didn't see a problem with not knowing anything about the characters. Even his wife was saying he should at least watch one of the movies about them.

Who should get more blame? The person that hires someone with no knowledge and doesn't require them to do a little research or the person making the film that doesn't bother doing any research?
Old 07-13-12 | 10:33 AM
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I just can't bring myself to do that if it's something I've purchased. I'll suffer through to the end *once* and vow to never watch it again.

I thought Phantom from Space wasn't too bad, although those other 3... phew! Watching Voyage to the Prehistoric Planet and Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women back to back made me appreciate Prehistoric Planet a bit more but they have me wanting to see Planeta Bur, the Soviet film Corman chopped up to make them. There's a release from someone called "Video Dimensions" that looks to be a pretty good copy. At least the stills on amazon have good color and appear to be WS - but the description doesn't mention that and it's a bit more than I typically like to spend. I like many of the early foreign SF efforts so we'll see...

Yeah, those scenes with Beaty and the animals *are* amazing.

Rocky Jones is better viewed as the TV episodes. Even then you *really* need to get into the mindset of a 50s 8-10 year old male to fully enjoy them. There's a "Classic Sci-Fi TV - 150 Episodes" set from Mill Creek that has 23 of the 39 episodes in good transfers. If you enjoy vintage Sci-Fi TV fare that set has *lots* of entertainment value with mostly good to very good transfers. It also has 3 full serials, Phantom Empire, Radar Men From the Moon, and Undersea Kingdom with very good transfers.

I agree on all of those. I've had The DEFA Sci-Fi Collection in my "wishlist" for a while simply to get a copy of Silent Star, the film that was recut and dubbed to make First Spaceship on Venus. Image has a good quality WS, although *not* anamorphic, version of First Spaceship. It's not "great" but it's far superior to all those faded FS versions floating around. Both Image and Legend have good copies of Phantom Planet. The Legend one has both B/W and a colorized one. They did a good job on the color although I typically watch the B/W.
Thanks! I wasn't even aware of either the Classic Sci-Fi TV box set or the DEFA Sci-Fi Collection. I've gotta get those.
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For my wildcard, I just finished Friday the 13th: Part 3. While I didn't like it, it was a little better than the second one for me. Some fun non-spoiler facts I found out after reading:

- Originally filmed and released in 3D (figured this out with the way some of the scenes were shot)

- Some of the deaths were edited to avoid an "X" rating

- Budget was $4mm and grossed $37mm domestically - not too shabby for Paramount
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Thanks! I wasn't even aware of either the Classic Sci-Fi TV box set or the DEFA Sci-Fi Collection. I've gotta get those.
No problem! BUT... in spite of a "review" on amazon, all three films are presented with a non-anamorphic 1.78:1 image that puts the subtitles in the black bar at the bottom of the image so that you can't zoom without cropping off the subtitles. That's part of why I've held off so far - hoping for a anamorphic update release.
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Deepstar Six as Giant Critters or Prehistoric?
Old 07-13-12 | 05:56 PM
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Deepstar Six as Giant Critters or Prehistoric?
No to Giant Critters, unless you find that there's other similar creatures and that is an abnormally large one.

Borderline on prehistoric. They don't really prove/show that it's something from prehistoric times but just claim the cave was sealed, only making it a possibly closed ecosystem where that particular type of creature may or may not have existed that far back.

That's just my take on it.
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so would Ice Age: Continental Drift count as fantasy? even though imdb doesn't list it as such, since
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the ending of the movie takes place in the mythical 'Atlantis'
Old 07-13-12 | 06:18 PM
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For my wildcard, I just finished Friday the 13th: Part 3. While I didn't like it, it was a little better than the second one for me. Some fun non-spoiler facts I found out after reading:

- Originally filmed and released in 3D (figured this out with the way some of the scenes were shot)

- Some of the deaths were edited to avoid an "X" rating

- Budget was $4mm and grossed $37mm domestically - not too shabby for Paramount
very little was trimmed but yes the MPAA had issues with some of the grue - but no where as extreme to their impression of Part 5 and the sequels that followed.
Old 07-13-12 | 08:12 PM
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so would Ice Age: Continental Drift count as fantasy? even though imdb doesn't list it as such, since
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the ending of the movie takes place in the mythical 'Atlantis'
I'd wouldn't because one scene doesn't necessarily make a film a certain genre. If we allowed such things, then any film that had a dream sequence where something fantastic happened, would then be labeled fantasy.
Old 07-13-12 | 08:58 PM
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^ So a movie with talking animals isn't a fantasy or sci-fi?
Old 07-13-12 | 10:02 PM
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^I'd think that all depends on just what you had to drink before the animals started talking...
Old 07-14-12 | 12:03 AM
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Haven't been able to watch anything the last day or two. Decided to get one in tonight and had Them! available. I'm really enjoying it. Everyone is so serious in it. I love their protection glasses they wear during the sand storm. I'd have bought a pair of those for science classes during college!

It's interesting to see what people thought might be possible right after atomic bombs were discovered/used as it was such a new concept. From drop and cover info reels to movies about atomic mutant ants. Humans are always exploring concepts and ideas that are new and different. Makes me wonder what the next thing we'll have horror movies made of that relate to one.
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(Warning: spoilers ahead) I delved into my new Planet of the Apes box set. The first movie is such a classic, and while I have seen it several times, I had never watched the sequels.

I'm not quite sure what I think about Beneath the Planet of the Apes. My initial reaction was "what the fuck, Hollywood?" However, some of the concepts are terribly intriguing
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such as the cult around the unexploded bomb and the class system between the various kinds of apes. However, the cult was woefully underdeveloped, and I really could have done without their empathic/telepathic/illusionary abilities. Also, Brent was never fleshed out, creating a cipher at the center of the movie.


Though dated, Escape from the Planet of the Apes was a step up from the first sequel.
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I was not expecting quite so bleak a ending considering the comedic overtones of the first half of the film. Also, I so very much wish that Dr. Zaius had survived to give his input into 1970s society.
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I need clarification. For 'Watch a film starring:' is it watch all of the stars or just one per row?
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Just saw Resident Evil: Afterlife. I remembered so little of Extinction that I was wondering if I had missed another film in between. Wikipedia is a wonderful thing, though. Action is still crazy over the top, and Milla Jovovich is still . My only disappointment was that the
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end credits ruined the mid-credits scene because I saw the credit for Sienna Guillory and said "Valentine? Where was she in that movie?"


OK, another disappointment: The shower scene was a total tease

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Had more free time yesterday so had time to take in a couple movies, and 3 Land of the Giants episodes. I watched Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women, Kong Island, and finishing Disc 1 side A of Land of the Giants, I watched Ghost Town, Framed, and Underground. Nice to see the planet on Land of the Giants already being fleshed out with some interesting information in just the first 4 episodes.
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Today being Bastille Day, you might want to watch something with a "French connection."

I watched the first four chapters of the "Mysterious Island" serial from 1951 this morning, without initially realizing that it had a French origin--based on a novel by French author Jules Verne. You can watch other Jules Verne film adaptations: 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA, JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH, THE FABULOUS WORLD OF JULES VERNE and the 1961 MYSTERIOUS ISLAND. There must be a million others. I want to dig out the 1929 version of MYSTERIOUS ISLAND, so I can watch something from the 1920s.

Godard's ALPHAVILLE (1965) is the one actual French sci-fi film in my collection, but I watched it for last year's challenge or the Criterion one.
There's also anything sci-fi by Luc Besson, THE FIFTH ELEMENT being the one I can think of that's suitable for this challenge. I know a sci-fi anime set in France--"Nadia, The Secret of Blue Water" (1990), which is also based, in part, on Verne.

What famous sci-fi films are set in France?
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very little was trimmed but yes the MPAA had issues with some of the grue - but no where as extreme to their impression of Part 5 and the sequels that followed.
Thanks for the heads up. I look forward to wrapping up the Friday the 13th series (probably as part of the horror challenge in October).

Was an uncut version ever released?
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I need clarification. For 'Watch a film starring:' is it watch all of the stars or just one per row?
One per row.
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Thanks for the heads up. I look forward to wrapping up the Friday the 13th series (probably as part of the horror challenge in October).

Was an uncut version ever released?
of Part 3? - no.
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Today being Bastille Day, you might want to watch something with a "French connection."

I watched the first four chapters of the "Mysterious Island" serial from 1951 this morning, without initially realizing that it had a French origin--based on a novel by French author Jules Verne. You can watch other Jules Verne film adaptations: 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA, JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH, THE FABULOUS WORLD OF JULES VERNE and the 1961 MYSTERIOUS ISLAND. There must be a million others. I want to dig out the 1929 version of MYSTERIOUS ISLAND, so I can watch something from the 1920s.

Godard's ALPHAVILLE (1965) is the one actual French sci-fi film in my collection, but I watched it for last year's challenge or the Criterion one.
There's also anything sci-fi by Luc Besson, THE FIFTH ELEMENT being the one I can think of that's suitable for this challenge. I know a sci-fi anime set in France--"Nadia, The Secret of Blue Water" (1990), which is also based, in part, on Verne.

What famous sci-fi films are set in France?
Happy Bastille Day! This may be the day I rewatch some Méliès films! I am always captivated by the surreal beauty of his films. As for other French science fiction, the only thing I can think of is La Jetée, which is also in the Criterion Collection. Also, I know that a few of Buñuel's French films are classified as "fantasy" by IMBD.
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It's too bad the Adele Blanc-Sec film didn't get U.S. distribution
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I'm starting a double feature of Battle Beneath the Earth and The Ultimate Warrior. I've seen Warrior but not the other one.
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Happy Bastille Day! This may be the day I rewatch some Méliès films! I am always captivated by the surreal beauty of his films. As for other French science fiction, the only thing I can think of is La Jetée, which is also in the Criterion Collection. Also, I know that a few of Buñuel's French films are classified as "fantasy" by IMBD.
Méliès, of course! How could I forget the inventor of filmed science fiction?!

I also forgot my favorite Truffaut film, FAHRENHEIT 451, which I should also watch as a tribute to the dear, recently departed Ray Bradbury.
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of Part 3? - no.
Yeah - of Part 3


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