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Trevor 08-16-10 03:36 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
A couple of things that I've added to my checklist, fwiw.

--- Something that won an Emmy -
--- Something that won an Oscar -

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 08-16-10 06:20 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by exharrison (Post 10325086)
I've been working my way through the checklist, and its pretty easy to fill one of the foreign language slots with anime, but what are some good places to look for good animation in a second language?

Youtube

Here's some commie Pooh for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=sqdi...eature=related

Greg MacGuffin 08-16-10 11:19 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by exharrison (Post 10325086)
I've been working my way through the checklist, and its pretty easy to fill one of the foreign language slots with anime, but what are some good places to look for good animation in a second language?

I just put Waltz with Bashir in my Netflix queue. They list the language as Hebrew.

HyperWeather 08-16-10 11:56 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Mister Peepers (Post 10325136)
Youtube

Here's some commie Pooh for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=sqdi...eature=related

Thank you! I've only watched the first one so far.. but its pretty awesome

Travis McClain 08-17-10 02:30 AM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
Got a question. The night before last, I watched Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen with the audio commentary track. Is that eligible for inclusion? I hadn't watched it with the challenge in mind, but I figure since I watched it anyway, if it counts I may as well add it to my list.

Trevor 08-17-10 07:58 AM

unless you already have Avatar in those categories
 

Originally Posted by MinLShaw (Post 10325670)
Got a question. The night before last, I watched Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen with the audio commentary track. Is that eligible for inclusion? I hadn't watched it with the challenge in mind, but I figure since I watched it anyway, if it counts I may as well add it to my list.

It's as eligible as any film mentioned in this thread.

You can also put it in the checklist for "most loathed" and "worst script" and "worst acting". ;)

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 08-17-10 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 10325830)
You can also put it in the checklist for "most loathed" and "worst script" and "worst acting". ;)

Minus absolutely everything that happens at the college, I liked it better than the first one.

I also refuse to believe that the Terminator like female in this movie and the large Transformer like robot in Terminator: Salvation is just a coincidence.

Trevor 08-17-10 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Peepers (Post 10325972)
Minus absolutely everything that happens at the college, I liked it better than the first one.

But the eye candy there was the best part! ;)

Bingo btw.

Travis McClain 08-17-10 02:13 PM

Re: unless you already have Avatar in those categories
 

Originally Posted by Mister Peepers (Post 10325972)
I also refuse to believe that the Terminator like female in this movie and the large Transformer like robot in Terminator: Salvation is just a coincidence.

While I was listening to the commentary track, Michael Bay pointed out one of the Decepticons in the final desert battle clearly has T-1000 imprinted on him. The reason is that he was at ILM and caught a glimpse of the work being done for Terminator: Salvation and was inspired to sneak that in as an easter egg.

Giles 08-17-10 04:43 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
speaking of Transformer's and terrible acting, in the latest issue of UK's The Word, they include the film and Megan's inability to acti: " Megan Fox tries to act in Transfomers: Michael Bay's Transformers! See state of the art CGI tested to its limit to create an inhuman simulacrum of life! Oh, and there are some giant robots in it as well. Starring Megan Fox as Craptimus Prime" :lol:

if I find the time, I'll try to watch the second movie since I fell asleep on it in the theatres, all that noise and mayhem and I managed to fall asleep on it, go figure - well, it IS 150 minutes of sheer tedium.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 08-17-10 07:08 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
I can't really say anyone acts well in either of those movies. People come for the robots and stay for the shaky cam that doesn't let you see which robot is fighting whom.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 08-18-10 08:06 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
Sorry to beat this horse but I just received the package from Something Weird.

The prizes are:

V For Victory! WWII Cartoons & Shorts
Classic Cartoon Rarities Volume 1
Classic Cartoon Rarities Volume 2
American Industrial Cartoon Revolution Volume 1
American Industrial Cartoon Revolution Volume 2

Travis McClain 08-20-10 02:07 AM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
I have a question (that may have already been covered). I know 90 minutes' worth of short films = 1 entry on the list. Once I clear that 90 minutes, am I then free to accumulate another entry of 90 minutes' worth of short films?

Trevor 08-20-10 06:58 AM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by MinLShaw (Post 10330736)
I have a question (that may have already been covered). I know 90 minutes' worth of short films = 1 entry on the list. Once I clear that 90 minutes, am I then free to accumulate another entry of 90 minutes' worth of short films?

Yep, you can have hundreds of different shorts entries if you wish.

Ash Ketchum 08-20-10 09:34 AM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Mister Peepers (Post 10328610)
Sorry to beat this horse but I just received the package from Something Weird.

The prizes are:

V For Victory! WWII Cartoons & Shorts
Classic Cartoon Rarities Volume 1
Classic Cartoon Rarities Volume 2
American Industrial Cartoon Revolution Volume 1
American Industrial Cartoon Revolution Volume 2

Those are good prizes. Does the single winner win them all? Or are they parceled out?

Trevor 08-20-10 09:50 AM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 10331028)
Those are good prizes. Does the single winner win them all? Or are they parceled out?

One prize per person, divied out as per the first post.

And yes, some great prizes this Challenge. First one where I really want to win something, guaranteeing another chance for all of you. ;)

Travis McClain 08-20-10 01:53 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 10330816)
Yep, you can have hundreds of different shorts entries if you wish.

I figured, but I wanted to confirm. I hadn't planned on it, but when I was adding up the run times of the shorts I've watched so far, I already cleared 90 minutes and thought I may as well see about adding to the remainder until they were worth a second entry.

I've still got a ton of shorts from the early days of American animation in the Library of Congress digital collection (link re-posted by our host on page 1) that I want to watch, so I know I'm not done with shorts.

Trevor 08-20-10 03:36 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by MinLShaw (Post 10331502)
I figured, but I wanted to confirm. I hadn't planned on it, but when I was adding up the run times of the shorts I've watched so far, I already cleared 90 minutes and thought I may as well see about adding to the remainder until they were worth a second entry.

I've still got a ton of shorts from the early days of American animation in the Library of Congress digital collection (link re-posted by our host on page 1) that I want to watch, so I know I'm not done with shorts.

I also find that shorts turn up on various other DVDs that I watch, so keeping a shorts entry open will help me remember to include those in my list.

Travis McClain 08-20-10 06:36 PM

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So my wife and I ran to the laundro-mat today, and I had the presence of mind to bring my iPod. I'd downloaded several early animation shorts from the Library of Congress and found they were a fun way of passing the time. I didn't know until I got home and did some research, but one of the shorts included (Humorous Phases of Funny Faces, 1906) is generally regarded as the first animated film. It was kind of neat to watch that as part of the Animation Challenge!

I managed to knock off all three of the early, optional decades on the checklist just from the part of the collection I watched while my clothes were spinning. And given how primitive the animation is, and how rough the copies are, I didn't have a problem at all watching on a tiny screen. If you're interested, check out the LOC page for information about them, and to view/download here.

Trevor 08-20-10 07:54 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
^ I searched around and found something from the 1890s just to be extra-thorough. Anyone find anything earlier?

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 08-20-10 08:03 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by MinLShaw (Post 10331894)
Humorous Phases of Funny Faces, 1906) is generally regarded as the first animated film[/URL]

I found it being referred to as the first animated work on standard picture film. Before that there were things like the spinning wheel animation type doohickeys, among others.

Travis McClain 08-20-10 09:03 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 10331971)
^ I searched around and found something from the 1890s just to be extra-thorough. Anyone find anything earlier?


Originally Posted by Mister Peepers (Post 10331981)
I found it being referred to as the first animated work on standard picture film. Before that there were things like the spinning wheel animation type doohickeys, among others.

And there you have the clarification! Incidentally, what was it you found from the 1890s? Is it online?

Trevor 08-20-10 09:39 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by MinLShaw (Post 10332039)
And there you have the clarification! Incidentally, what was it you found from the 1890s? Is it online?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0000003/ It's a bit of a stretch, as the only stuff online are some stills and a recent reproduction, but I didn't search very long, so I imagine there is other stuff out there.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 08-20-10 09:48 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
I love that imdb number.

It's also the number of my parking permit 003.

wishbone 08-21-10 05:40 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
This challenge was a nice impetus to finally finish Gatchaman and its 105 episodes. I was a huge fan of Battle of the Planets as a kid and it's nice to have watched the original series too. I really enjoyed the continuing arc toward the end of the series. Given the darker tone I can see why the last episodes were not included in Battle of the Planets.

Now on to some more animation! :D

kstublen 08-21-10 05:56 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
So I just watched "Humorous Phases Of Funny Faces" from 1906 and then I watched "Fantasmagorie" from 1908 and I was pretty impressed. After reading some stuff on Wikipedia I guess the "Funny Faces" is considered the first animated film, but "Fantasmagorie" is considered the first fully animated film. I imagine that has something to do with the fact that "Funny Faces" relies on a sort of stop-motion technique with the chalk drawings whereas "Fantasmagorie" is actually the first example of cel animation.

Of the two I think I actually liked "Fantasmagorie" more. It was short, but very fun and I watched it a few times just to catch all the different effects and transitions that were used. Hard to believe how far animation has come in 100 years, and yet, there is something about that short film that is really magical. At the same time, it's interesting to see that a sort of stop-motion technique was used in "Funny Faces" over a 100 years ago and is still being used today.

EDIT: In continuing the decade portion of the list I watched another animated short by Emile Cohl (who did the aforementioned Fantasmagorie) called "The Hasher's Delirium" from 1910. The growth he showed in just two years is incredible. The drawings were much better, the animation was much smoother and more fluid. Highly recommend checking both of these out; the stream of consciousness style he uses is really impressive.

kstublen 08-21-10 06:34 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
Two questions...

1.) If I don't include some shorts toward my total count, but instead just mark them off on the checklist, is that alright?

2.) What exactly satisfies the "special feature" requirement? Would The Flagstones (Pilot) satisfy it, since it was never really aired and is included as a bonus feature on the First Season DVD Set?

Trevor 08-21-10 07:20 PM

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Yes x2

kstublen 08-21-10 07:23 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 10333053)
Yes x2

Thanks Trevor! This is my first time doing a challenge so I'm trying to do it right. Really enjoying it thus far, but this is probably the easiest for me to do since I have plenty of animation to choose from, both in my own collection, on television, and online.

I'm especially enjoying revisiting old shows (such as The Flintstones) and old shorts that I haven't seen in many, many years.

Michael Corvin 08-21-10 07:50 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
So for "Title from your least favorite genre" - would the Disney princess/fairy line count as a sub-genre? I watched both Tinkerbell movies with the girls this morning and think I might mark it down for this category.

They're actually pretty well made movies but I don't exactly fall in to their demographic. :lol:

Trevor 08-21-10 08:10 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by kstublen (Post 10333059)
Thanks Trevor! This is my first time doing a challenge so I'm trying to do it right. Really enjoying it thus far, but this is probably the easiest for me to do since I have plenty of animation to choose from, both in my own collection, on television, and online.

I'm especially enjoying revisiting old shows (such as The Flintstones) and old shorts that I haven't seen in many, many years.

If you're having fun, you're doing it right!

Yep, I'm having a great time on this one. I've always been a big animation fan, but since I got into these Challenges, they seem to sit on the shelf unwatched. It's nice to finally have an excuse to watch them for a month straight! Thanks for championing this one MP!

And yes, there is just too much to choose from. I keep coming up with titles I'd love to watch, and probably have the next 5 or 6 Augusts already filled with ideas.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 08-21-10 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 10333089)
So for "Title from your least favorite genre" - would the Disney princess/fairy line count as a sub-genre? I watched both Tinkerbell movies with the girls this morning and think I might mark it down for this category.

They're actually pretty well made movies but I don't exactly fall in to their demographic. :lol:

That works.

The way I originally planned for it was if someone hated musicals and watched something with both animation and musical genres. I like your way too and think it fits fine.

kstublen 08-21-10 11:45 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
I know it's been discussed at some point in the thread, but I don't really feel like looking through all the pages, but could someone suggest an NC-17 Animated Film for me to watch. I saw some people put down South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut or Team America: World Police, but I don't think those are NC-17, but rather R and/or Unrated.

I'll obviously watch Fritz The Cat for the X-Rated Animated Film and I'll figure something out for the Unrated Film, but the NC-17 Film seems to be the one thing on the list that is going to give me the most trouble, so I'd appreciate a suggestion.

N8 Storm 08-22-10 12:03 AM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
Anybody recommend some good foreign flicks? thanks.

Cardsfan111 08-22-10 01:04 AM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by wishbone (Post 10332945)
This challenge was a nice impetus to finally finish Gatchaman and its 105 episodes. I was a huge fan of Battle of the Planets as a kid and it's nice to have watched the original series too. I really enjoyed the continuing arc toward the end of the series. Given the darker tone I can see why the last episodes were not included in Battle of the Planets.

I need to check this out sometime. I remember watching Battle of the Planets a great deal as a kid as well.

Travis McClain 08-22-10 01:10 AM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
So we've got this DVD from Lions Gate that has a 1975 adaptation of Rikki-Tikki-Tavi by Chuck Jones, partnered with Yankee Doodle Cricket. Both run 30 minutes. According to IMDb, these were produced for TV. Anyone know anything about 'em? I'm counting the pair as a combined half an entry of TV content, but I'd be interested to know about their original exhibition just for the sake of knowing.

kstublen 08-22-10 10:40 AM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 
Just finished watching "Bartok The Magnificent" for my Oldest Animation DVD. I don't know when I purchased what, so I just went by the oldest release date of all my Animation DVDs and as far as I can tell that is the oldest. This was the first time I had seen this actually, and I actually quite enjoyed it. It just goes to show how much better a sequel/prequel can be when the original minds are involved.

I've always enjoyed Don Bluth's work and think he's really very underrated as an animator. There's something about his animation that I very much enjoy; it isn't perfect and is sometimes a little rough around the edges, but I think it can go toe-to-toe with it's distinctive and visually pleasing.

Perhaps it's nostalgia, but I think he has a lot of great animation to his name. His songs were never as good or as catchy as the ones in Disney movies (except for "No Cats In America"), but he created great characters and had some heartwarming stories that were a lot of fun to watch unfold, even if at times they were a bit predictable.

The Land Before Time and All Dogs Go To Heaven are still my favourites though.

Trevor 08-22-10 10:59 AM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by kstublen (Post 10333341)
I know it's been discussed at some point in the thread, but I don't really feel like looking through all the pages, but could someone suggest an NC-17 Animated Film for me to watch. I saw some people put down South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut or Team America: World Police, but I don't think those are NC-17, but rather R and/or Unrated.

I'll obviously watch Fritz The Cat for the X-Rated Animated Film and I'll figure something out for the Unrated Film, but the NC-17 Film seems to be the one thing on the list that is going to give me the most trouble, so I'd appreciate a suggestion.

There are very few "official" NC-17 films of any genre, let alone animation. The Challenge checklists have always been very forgiving in these rating categories, allowing you to use titles like SP and TA:WP, as long as you watch the unedited versions that would have been NC-17. There are no other options afaik.

Originally Posted by MinLShaw (Post 10333392)
So we've got this DVD from Lions Gate that has a 1975 adaptation of Rikki-Tikki-Tavi by Chuck Jones, partnered with Yankee Doodle Cricket. Both run 30 minutes. According to IMDb, these were produced for TV. Anyone know anything about 'em? I'm counting the pair as a combined half an entry of TV content, but I'd be interested to know about their original exhibition just for the sake of knowing.

I remember them as TV specials, and am especially fond of Rikki-Tikki-Tavi, a favorite as a kid.

wishbone 08-22-10 11:47 AM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 10333633)
I remember them as TV specials, and am especially fond of Rikki-Tikki-Tavi, a favorite as a kid.

http://i36.tinypic.com/117h0nl.jpg

:up:

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 08-22-10 12:12 PM

Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
 

Originally Posted by kstublen (Post 10333341)
I know it's been discussed at some point in the thread, but I don't really feel like looking through all the pages, but could someone suggest an NC-17 Animated Film for me to watch. I saw some people put down South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut or Team America: World Police, but I don't think those are NC-17, but rather R and/or Unrated.

I'll obviously watch Fritz The Cat for the X-Rated Animated Film and I'll figure something out for the Unrated Film, but the NC-17 Film seems to be the one thing on the list that is going to give me the most trouble, so I'd appreciate a suggestion.

South Park wasn't ever NC-17, at least as far as I can tell since wikipedia is the only source for that.

You can count Team America since it originally was NC-17, according to imdb, before it was edited to an R. So if you watch the unrated version, you can count it.


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