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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 10291558)
I'd add 'watch a live action movie based on an animated series/film'
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
probably not, but it gives folk a chance to personally research the topic.
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Off-topic stuff from list thread below.
Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
(Post 10291764)
Which thread is the best one for asking questions, this one or the discussion thread?
Originally Posted by Trevor
(Post 10291782)
Read that again slowly and you'll have your answer. ;)
Non-smartass answer: The discussion tread. Historically, Challenge lists threads are for the lists only. Anything else, including comments on the list thread and it's posts, goes into the discussion thread.
Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 10292135)
I'm surprised that Ash asked that
Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
(Post 10292136)
Another question:
In the lists thread, do we put lists of the stuff we've watched or potential checklists for others to follow? Or both?
Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 10292138)
both
Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
(Post 10292147)
Question about counting entries:
I have lots of anime tapes that have multiple eps. of a series on them. Some have three eps., some have four, some have 5. One even has six (150 min.!) What I would like to do is count each tape with multiple eps. as a separate item, rather than count the eps. and try to separate them out and add them up. It'll all average out in the long run to 100 items. But it saves me a lot of effort if I count each tape as a separate item. Is that okay?
Originally Posted by Trevor
(Post 10292154)
Reading comprehension and rule following are not his strong suits today. Or yours. Or mine. ;)
Seriously though, we three should delete all these posts and/or move them to the discussion thread.
Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 10292162)
touche :lol: how true
Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 10292166)
now that's all out of the way, let's all delete these posts they are beginning to clutter up the 'List' thread
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
why'd you put our little discussion in spoiler form?
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 10292189)
why'd you put our little discussion in spoiler form?
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 10291558)
I'd add 'watch a live action movie based on an animated series/film'
Granted, some of them have animation in them, but they're still mostly live-action. But even without the CGI Characters, there's still some solely live-action titles in there. I didn't include Space Jam or Looney Tunes: Back In Action since the characters are pretty much carbon copies (appearance-wise) of their Shorts counterparts. Again, most are crappy, but it is what it is. I actually think the Speed Racer movie should count as animation. Sure, the characters weren't animated, but everything else was just about as animated as it gets. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
(All right, I deleted my post in the List thread and am trying again here.)
Question about counting entries: I have lots of anime tapes that have multiple eps. of a series on them. Some have three eps., some have four, some have 5. One even has six (150 min.!) What I would like to do is count each tape with multiple eps. as a separate item, rather than count the eps. and try to separate them out and add them up. It'll all average out in the long run to 100 items. But it saves me a lot of effort if I count each tape as a separate item. Is that okay? With DVD sets, it's different because you sometimes get 7 eps. per disc, so I'd rather do the four eps.=1 item math there. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
(Post 10292527)
(All right, I deleted my post in the List thread and am trying again here.)
Question about counting entries: I have lots of anime tapes that have multiple eps. of a series on them. Some have three eps., some have four, some have 5. One even has six (150 min.!) What I would like to do is count each tape with multiple eps. as a separate item, rather than count the eps. and try to separate them out and add them up. It'll all average out in the long run to 100 items. But it saves me a lot of effort if I count each tape as a separate item. Is that okay? With DVD sets, it's different because you sometimes get 7 eps. per disc, so I'd rather do the four eps.=1 item math there. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
A few days ago I started making a list of some of the animated shows I thought would be fun to watch for this challenge. I slowly realized that I have a shitload of animated shows and I hardly ever watch anything animated! I think 80% of the animated shows I own are ones I watched when I was a kid and subconsciously I can't resist buying them when they are released. I.e. "Captain N is on DVD, oh my god, I used to LOVE that show on Saturday mornings!" Yet, I have hardly ever put any of those shows in the DVD player to actually watch.
I'm definitely looking forward to this challenge to catch-up / revisit many of these titles. The problem is that I have SO many, I won't even make a dent in them.... but it will be fun trying. Here are some of the titles I'm looking forward to the most: Spawn The Real Ghostbusters Bananaman (this will most likely be a HUGE letdown) Captain N Dungeons & Dragons Space Ghost: Coast to Coast Dr. Katz, Professional Therapist Special note: DuckTales is probably my favorite of all time, but I'm still waiting for the final volume to be released :( Other titles, if anyone is interested for ideas: Futurama, ATHF, Family Guy, American Dad, Robot Chicken, The Brak Show, South Park, He-Man/She-Ra, The Simpsons, Clerks Animated, The Critic, Captain N, Legend of Zelda, The Mario Bros. shows, Sam & Max (never actually saw this show, but LOVED the computer game) Still waiting for additional releases to complete the collection: DuckTales, Darkwing Duck, Popeye. I can't start series anymore unless I have the whole collection, just a rule I have for myself. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Numes
(Post 10292542)
My personal opinion, if they are separate episodes, list them. Let's say there is one episode of the 5 episodes on one of the tapes that was amazing and you want to comment on it. If you just say "Anime Tape #4" it doesn't really mean a whole lot, but if you actually reference the episode(s) it seems more meaningful, and you could comment on that particular episode.
Originally Posted by Numes
(Post 10292559)
Bananaman (this will most likely be a HUGE letdown)
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
(Post 10292527)
(All right, I deleted my post in the List thread and am trying again here.)
Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
(Post 10292527)
Question about counting entries:
I have lots of anime tapes that have multiple eps. of a series on them. Some have three eps., some have four, some have 5. One even has six (150 min.!) What I would like to do is count each tape with multiple eps. as a separate item, rather than count the eps. and try to separate them out and add them up. It'll all average out in the long run to 100 items. But it saves me a lot of effort if I count each tape as a separate item. Is that okay? With DVD sets, it's different because you sometimes get 7 eps. per disc, so I'd rather do the four eps.=1 item math there. Besides, it doesn't sound like doing it the way you planned would save that much time. Once you get used to maintaining your list post, it will go smoothly no matter how "complicated" it seems at first. There is lots of room for individuality in your list by the way, you don't have to stick to the guidelines or to anyone else's format. Get creative!
Originally Posted by Numes
(Post 10292559)
A few days ago I started making a list of some of the animated shows I thought would be fun to watch for this challenge. I slowly realized that I have a shitload of animated shows and I hardly ever watch anything animated! I think 80% of the animated shows I own are ones I watched when I was a kid and subconsciously I can't resist buying them when they are released. I.e. "Captain N is on DVD, oh my god, I used to LOVE that show on Saturday mornings!" Yet, I have hardly ever put any of those shows in the DVD player to actually watch.
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
(Post 10292577)
I hated Danger Mouse with a passion but sat through it just to watch Bananaman, which was the second half of the show.
Nickelodeon was on pretty much 24-7 for me in the mid 80's. Another show I would love to own is "Today's Special." I used to really enjoy that show. I would like to see some of the uncut original Canadian broadcasts, but from what I've read, there doesn't seem to be enough interest in them (or they don't exist anymore?) I haven't done any research into it for a few years, it may be time to see if anything's surfaced. I'm skeptical, though, that it would really be as great as I remembered. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
The only thing I've ever run across on Today's Special has just been youtube clips :(
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
I was going through my unwatched pile today to get a list together and was also shocked by the amount of animation I own. My tentative goal is still to get through the Daria set and the Pixar/Disney blu's, but I definitely have a lot of stuff to choose from.
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Another question:
I intend watch some anime OAV's (Original Animation Video). These present particular challenges for counting. Some of these are series that can last 10-12 eps., some are one-shots, and some are two-parters. An individual OAV volume can last 30 min., 45 min., or 1 hour. How do we count these? For instance, I plan to watch TOKYO REVELATION, a standalone OAV, which is about an hour. Does that count as one item on the list? Other examples: GENESIS SURVIVER GAIARTH - one tape has all three eps. of the series on it. Each ep. is about 45-50 min. Total of the tape = 142 min. One item? Or one-and-a-half? URUSEI YATSURA - I have several OAV tapes of these. Two eps. per tape, each about a half-hour. I would count these like they're a TV series, with each tape counting as half an entry. Is that correct? LEGEND OF THE SOHRYUDEN KINGS - multi-part OAV series. Each tape has two eps. of about 48 min. each on it. Total of each tape=97 min. Each tape counts as one item, right? Sorry to be a stickler about this, but I need to be precise about the rules before I start something and I believe that the way anime has traditionally been presented and packaged is a little different from the norm and requires that I ask more questions before the process starts. And this is my first time doing one of these challenges. Thanks. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Ash,
You're thinking too hard. The counting is pretty simple. 30 minute show (with commercials, so ~22 minutes without) = 1/4 entry 60 minute show (with commercials, so ~44 minutes without) = 1/2 entry 120 minute show (with commercials, so ~88 minutes without) = 1 entry All kinds of animation, not just anime, has random times that don't neatly fit this. Just do the math and group things to make an entry. You don't have to put everything down in the order you watched it necessarily, just keep partial entries in a queue until you get enough to add up right. No one is going to nitpick over a few minutes here and there. For example, say a certain series could possibly count as 2 or 2.25 entries depending on how complicated you want to make it. If you log it as 1, or 2, or 2.25; no one is going to care. Just personalize your format the way you want, and don't worry about the numbers. Relax. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by kstublen
(Post 10292447)
I can actually think of a decent number (and I'm sure there are many more), but the majority of them are pretty crappy...
Granted, some of them have animation in them, but they're still mostly live-action. But even without the CGI Characters, there's still some solely live-action titles in there. I didn't include Space Jam or Looney Tunes: Back In Action since the characters are pretty much carbon copies (appearance-wise) of their Shorts counterparts. Again, most are crappy, but it is what it is. I actually think the Speed Racer movie should count as animation. Sure, the characters weren't animated, but everything else was just about as animated as it gets. Thunderbirds - the Bill Paxton movie question would movies like Cat's and Dogs, G-Force count? |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
(Post 10285946)
Wild Wild West
Originally Posted by kstublen
(Post 10289074)
Cowboy Bebop would be another one.
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Trevor
(Post 10293044)
Ash,
You're thinking too hard. The counting is pretty simple. 30 minute show (with commercials, so ~22 minutes without) = 1/4 entry 60 minute show (with commercials, so ~44 minutes without) = 1/2 entry 120 minute show (with commercials, so ~88 minutes without) = 1 entry All kinds of animation, not just anime, has random times that don't neatly fit this. Just do the math and group things to make an entry. You don't have to put everything down in the order you watched it necessarily, just keep partial entries in a queue until you get enough to add up right. No one is going to nitpick over a few minutes here and there. For example, say a certain series could possibly count as 2 or 2.25 entries depending on how complicated you want to make it. If you log it as 1, or 2, or 2.25; no one is going to care. Just personalize your format the way you want, and don't worry about the numbers. Relax. According to the stated rules, a movie counts as one entry. Anime movies released to theaters are often 50 min. to an hour in length, e.g. the Saint Seiya movies and the two Silent Mobius movies. They're short but they're still movies released to theaters, so I'm going to count them as one entry each. Tell me that's okay and I'll leave you alone till I start watching. Thanks. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
^ personally yes a movie like Silent Mobius that 50 minutes in length count - I go with the notion that AAMPAS counts a feature length film as being more than 41 minutes in length.
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Thoughts about Tron?
I need to watch that again to gear up for the new one in December and it just happens to be on my DVR from HDNet Movies. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
yes I'd count it, a majority of it was computer imagery. Annoyed that RCN here in DC dropped HDNet/HDnet Movies from it's channel lineup - would love to see Tron in Hidef.
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
(Post 10293185)
All right, I appreciate your patience, but one more question:
According to the stated rules, a movie counts as one entry. Anime movies released to theaters are often 50 min. to an hour in length, e.g. the Saint Seiya movies and the two Silent Mobius movies. They're short but they're still movies released to theaters, so I'm going to count them as one entry each. Tell me that's okay and I'll leave you alone till I start watching. Thanks. Yes, I'd say any theatrical released item of more than 45 minutes is fine to count as one. Even short direct-to-video "features" are okay in my opinion. It is sort of argued from time to time in the various Challenge threads; but technically, a 41+ minute feature is defined as a film by most aspects of the film industry, eligible for Oscars and what-not; so they've always been allowed. I'm sure if one was to go out of the way to watch every possible "short" film in the categories they might get second glances or some people getting "frustrated". But I wouldn't mind if someone watched 300 short films and "beat" someone who watched 100 long films that totaled more time. The numbers are the least important thing of Challenges. It's all about sharing the experience and building community. Someone's 20 three hour epic films are equal to another's 20 45 minute films. It's not a contest, it's a challenge. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 10293073)
also
question would movies like Cat's and Dogs, G-Force count? Quickest way to determine it is to ask yourself, what would happen if all the animation from a film/show/whatever, were removed and I watched it? Would it pretty much destroy the movie or would it still function? From what I've thought about it, the range for this challenge would be a cartoon on one end, where if you removed the animation, you'd be watching a blank screen. At the other end, you have some horror movie with some monster that's, in reality, a puppet. Remove the puppetry from it and every scene has a puppet sitting there not doing anything. On a similar note, a movie about wizards where the only special effects, or animation, comes from the spells shooting from their hands. Take that away and you have a dude yelling lightning bolt over and over without the benefit of even having nerf darts to throw. That too, ruins the movie and therefore would count for this challenge. Because of that, this challenge can be very broad if one wants it to be or they can just strictly do cartoons for a month.
Originally Posted by davidh777
(Post 10293119)
I know that's sci-fi, but is it "space"? I never saw it (the movie or the series) and won't for the challenge, but am curious about the answer.
Originally Posted by Trevor
(Post 10293200)
No, ask as many questions as you want! That's what we're here for.
Yes, I'd say any theatrical released item of more than 45 minutes is fine to count as one. Even short direct-to-video "features" are okay in my opinion. It is sort of argued from time to time in the various Challenge threads; but technically, a 41+ minute feature is defined as a film by most aspects of the film industry, eligible for Oscars and what-not; so they've always been allowed. I'm sure if one was to go out of the way to watch every possible "short" film in the categories they might get second glances or some people getting "frustrated". But I wouldn't mind if someone watched 300 short films and "beat" someone who watched 100 long films that totaled more time. The numbers are the least important thing of Challenges. It's all about sharing the experience and building community. Someone's 20 three hour epic films are equal to another's 20 45 minute films. It's not a contest, it's a challenge. The only thing to remember is that film != show, so while a feature film and a show may both be 45 minutes long, only the feature film counts as one entry. The show requires more shows to get it up to the 90 minute mark for that one entry. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
(Post 10293323)
Yes.
Quickest way to determine it is to ask yourself, what would happen if all the animation from a film/show/whatever, were removed and I watched it? Would it pretty much destroy the movie or would it still function? From what I've thought about it, the range for this challenge would be a cartoon on one end, where if you removed the animation, you'd be watching a blank screen. At the other end, you have some horror movie with some monster that's, in reality, a puppet. Remove the puppetry from it and every scene has a puppet sitting there not doing anything. On a similar note, a movie about wizards where the only special effects, or animation, comes from the spells shooting from their hands. Take that away and you have a dude yelling lightning bolt over and over without the benefit of even having nerf darts to throw. That too, ruins the movie and therefore would count for this challenge. This also brings up a whole can of worms regarding CGI. Just to name 3 movies off the top of my head: 300, Lord of the Rings, and Spider-Man 3. These movies would be nothing without CGI, which is a form of animation, but I would not count those for this challenge. That kind of goes against my previous question about Tron. I guess the difference in that is that Tron seemed to overtly focus on the animation, though, where as the three movies I mentioned were meant to be photo-real. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Numes
(Post 10293394)
While I agree with most of what you said, I don't really agree with the last paragaph, necessarily. Almost every movie in the past 40 years has at least one scene were a hand-drawn animation of (a lightnight bolt for example) or a CGI effect was added. If you removed that animation, yes, that scene (which could be the major scene in the movie) is pretty much ruined. However, I wouldn't say that that would be applicable for this challenge.
Does that clear it up more? Tron counts since it would be an entirely different movie without the animation. G-Force wouldn't have the animals at all, which are the main stars. I think Cats and Dogs is the same. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
I'm planning to watch two different versions of the same movie and planning to count them as two separate movies. One of these is ALAKAZAM THE GREAT (1961), an English-dubbed version of the longer, Japanese-language film, SAIYUKI (1960). The two versions are different enough that I believe I'm justified in counting each as a separate entry. And this is the same with two other Japanese animated movies that were dubbed and reedited in the U.S. In each case, the Japanese versions are significantly longer. They also have different titles. Acceptable?
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
^ Perfectly.
So an all-anime month? I'd be done on the 2nd if I did that. I think I really like Japanese animation, at least the few things I've tried, but just can't afford to find out for sure. ;) |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by kstublen
(Post 10292447)
I can actually think of a decent number (and I'm sure there are many more), but the majority of them are pretty crappy...
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
I wasn't planning on doing this challenge, but it will give me a chance to get to some of my unwatched DVDs of this type, and I can continue to focus on Sci-Fi and Fantasy titles that I was considering watching this month, but haven't watched yet.
I'm not going to worry about devoting the entire month to animation, I will just watch whatever I feel like watching. The biggest challenge will probably be figuring out which anime titles will be suitable to watch with my kids. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by ororama
(Post 10294168)
The biggest challenge will probably be figuring out which anime titles will be suitable to watch with my kids. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
No-brainer that "Ash Ketchum" should be an authority
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
I'm in, this is one I actually have the library and interest for.
Not sure I understand the wild cards - does that mean I just get three free checks on the checklist? Or is that to "push" a watched title into a category it doesn't strictly fit? Ororama, how old are your kids? There's lots of anime that is suitable for all ages of kids, and still great for the adults as well. But we've been stuck on the last two episodes of Sugar a Snow Fairy for like a month. Gantz, that's also a good one. KIDDING. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by dtcarson
(Post 10294406)
I'm in, this is one I actually have the library and interest for.
Not sure I understand the wild cards - does that mean I just get three free checks on the checklist? Or is that to "push" a watched title into a category it doesn't strictly fit? Ororama, how old are your kids? There's lots of anime that is suitable for all ages of kids, and still great for the adults as well. But we've been stuck on the last two episodes of Sugar a Snow Fairy for like a month. Gantz, that's also a good one. KIDDING. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
(Post 10293588)
And in those cases you're correct since they don't ruin the movie. Another example, which I think I listed in the rules and description thread is The Others. There's tons of cgi animation of countryside during the car drive in the opening credits but that alone doesn't make it eligible for the challenge. Haven't seen the rest, so I can't comment on the rest of the movie.
Does that clear it up more? Tron counts since it would be an entirely different movie without the animation. G-Force wouldn't have the animals at all, which are the main stars. I think Cats and Dogs is the same. I would say that a live action movie about wizards would not count regardless of how many animated/CGI elements were present. I think the delineation would be whether the animation elements (CGI or not) were meant to be realistic and whether the makers of the movie intended those elements to be noticed or not. For most movies, if the effects take you out of the movie and you conciously think about that animation/CGI, then the filmmaker's have not set out what they intended to do. For other movies, like Tron, where the animation was meant to be a part of the experience and people are supposed to take that in as part of the movie, then I would say those types of movies would count. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Numes
(Post 10294891)
I guess I wasn't too clear in my previous post. I was just questioning your example. There are so many movies out now that if you took out all the CGI, the movie would be nothing, but I don't necessarily think they should count. 300 was filmed all in front of green screen with a very minimal amount of set pieces. The movie would be just actors in front of a green screen if you took out the CGI (that is one of the special features on the DVD! :)) Does that mean 300 should count in an animation challenge? I would say not.
Originally Posted by Numes
(Post 10294891)
I would say that a live action movie about wizards would not count regardless of how many animated/CGI elements were present.
Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 10294451)
yes, but you could literally include anything that you feel is 'animated' - example: 'Child's Play' heck, you could even read a manga that was made into an anime series and include that as a wild card, or a short story. I'm thinking of transferring my animated shorts I made at RISD and include that as a wild card.
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Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
(Post 10295052)
I'm sorry but I don't see how Harry Potter could be excluded.
Regardless of whether it was a magical spell (Harry Potter) or the raft sail (Cast Away) added in CGI, they both would make those scenes a bit silly without them, but doesn't mean it deserves to be counted. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
I'm something of an animation purist. If I was in charge of making the rules, I'd exclude any film from this challenge in which the main characters were live-action. I'd make exceptions for things like WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT and COOL WORLD, where the live-action characters interact with animated characters for the bulk of the running time, or THE INCREDIBLE MR. LIMPET, where the main character becomes an animated character for most of the film. I'd even make an exception for SONG OF THE SOUTH, for the simple reason that it's considered a classic Disney animated film, even though the live-action scenes greatly outnumber the animated ones. But live-action movies where the characters are surrounded by special effects? I don't care how the special effects are done, those films are simply not considered animated films. Not even my Harryhausen favorites.
But, alas, I'm not making the rules. Just throwing my two cents in, for what it's worth (2 cents?). |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Numes
(Post 10295087)
This is a perfect example of where we disagree. I don't see how it could be included. How is Harry Potter any different than, say, Cast Away as far as what was added in CGI to make the movie what it is? Most every scene on the island or on water in Cast Away was modified with CGI. The movie would have been ridiculous without it, but it doesn't belong in this challenge.
Regardless of whether it was a magical spell (Harry Potter) or the raft sail (Cast Away) added in CGI, they both would make those scenes a bit silly without them, but doesn't mean it deserves to be counted. I'd count Potter not just because of the spells but the monsters he fights/rides/is friends with. That's the main reason I'd count it. I agree with you on 300. Just a background isn't enough for me to count it when compared to other things out there, which is the main I determine, for myself, if something is valid or not. If I'm questioning something to myself, most of the time I'll just skip it and watch something else that I know will count. Spider-Man, without animation, at best you'd have the 70s TV show. Animation makes those 3 movies and without it, it couldn't be done. In the end, it's more up to what each person wants to set as a limit to how much animation needs to be in something for them and also how it's used. I'd rather do the challenge more broad in terms of what's allowed and having people ask for the real borderline things, or at least what they'd consider to be borderline. But it's great discussion either way and since it's the first year of it, there's no reason not to change things around for next year depending on how things go. |
Re: August Animation Challenge 2010 - Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
(Post 10295183)
I'm something of an animation purist. If I was in charge of making the rules, I'd exclude any film from this challenge in which the main characters were live-action. I'd make exceptions for things like WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT and COOL WORLD, where the live-action characters interact with animated characters for the bulk of the running time, or THE INCREDIBLE MR. LIMPET, where the main character becomes an animated character for most of the film. I'd even make an exception for SONG OF THE SOUTH, for the simple reason that it's considered a classic Disney animated film, even though the live-action scenes greatly outnumber the animated ones. But live-action movies where the characters are surrounded by special effects? I don't care how the special effects are done, those films are simply not considered animated films. Not even my Harryhausen favorites.
But, alas, I'm not making the rules. Just throwing my two cents in, for what it's worth (2 cents?). |
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