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Old 06-21-10, 08:31 PM
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Re: June 2010 History Film Challenge Discussion Thread

Same here. Too much to do that's going to get neglected for next month. Of course that's why there's no 100 movie goal. Honestly, this is a place-holder challenge. A chance to watch some good movies, but at a more casual rate.
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I don't understand the mini series count, specifically for "I, Claudius" it's thirteen episodes - so how does it round up to the specific number of entries?
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Re: June 2010 History Film Challenge Discussion Thread

It's the same as the Sci Fi challenge.
TV shows count according to length as they are aired on TV(including commercials):

* 30 minute shows count as 1/4 an entry
* 1 hour shows count as 1/2 an entry
* 2 hour shows count as 1 entry

So you need 4, 30 minute shows for 1 entry or 2 60 minute shows or any combination that gets you to 1 entry. While X-Files has a runtime of around 43 minutes, on-air it's an hour show.
It might end up with a fraction at the end of the challenge. I Claudius is about an hour an episode, so 13 = 6 1/2 entries.
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Does "The Godfather" count towards the challenge? If not, can I use it as a wildcard?

Either way I'm loving the blu-ray of it.
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I'd say it would.
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Re: June 2010 History Film Challenge Discussion Thread

It may be a little too late to ask, but (Aside from Paths of Glory,All Quiet On The Western Front) is there any other well-acclaimed WWI movies?
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Other acclaimed World War I movies include Wooden Crosses (a French movie similar to All Quiet on the Western Front), Gallipoli (same, but a lesser known front except in Australia and New Zealand, where many of the Allied casualties came from), A Farewell To Arms (I've only seen the 1932 Frank Borzage version with Gary Cooper and Helen Hayes, not the 1957 remake), and The Grand Illusion.

Waterloo Bridge is about an affair between a prostitute and a soldier on leave in London-the 1931 version acknowledges that she is a prostitute, the 1940 remake makes her a dancer.
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Two essential WWI films are Lawrence of Arabia and Sergeant York, a Gary Cooper classic.

Some more good WWI films would be King of Hearts, a charming French anti-war fable that I would love to see get a Criterion release, The Fighting 69th, a heavily fictionalized account of a real WWI battalion, with Jimmy Cagney, and for a change of pace, For Me and My Gal, a Judy Garland/ Gene Kelly musical, with WWI as an important aspect of the film's 3rd act.

FYI, tonight at 8 Eastern, TCM will show 24 hours of films set during the Korean War to commemorate the 60th anniversary of North Korea's invasion of the South that prompted the UN "police action"--the US never formally declared it a war.

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Re: June 2010 History Film Challenge Discussion Thread

A few WWI films I remember liking when I watched them: The Blue Max (1966), Wings (1927) and Hell's Angels (1930).

Your question made me realize that I haven't watched my copy of The Blue Max, so thanks for asking.
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Re: June 2010 History Film Challenge Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by Gobear
Sergeant York, a Gary Cooper classic.
If you believe what the cover says, "Jets", prepare to be disappointed as there's no aircraft of any kind in the film.
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The Godfather is what this challenge was created for. It's also why I have tried to de-emphasize total numbers. I encourage watching longer stuff for this challenge. Have at it.
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Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
If you believe what the cover says, "Jets", prepare to be disappointed as there's no aircraft of any kind in the film.
No missiles either.
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Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
It may be a little too late to ask, but (Aside from Paths of Glory,All Quiet On The Western Front) is there any other well-acclaimed WWI movies?
I don't know how well-acclaimed it is, but next up for me is Flyboys which is a WWI movie.
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Re: June 2010 History Film Challenge Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
It may be a little too late to ask, but (Aside from Paths of Glory,All Quiet On The Western Front) is there any other well-acclaimed WWI movies?
I don't know if this one was well acclaimed but I always have liked
When Trumpets Fade sort of a dedication to the Hurtgen Forrest.
As a matter of fact, i may try to sneak this in before the deadline.

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Thanks for the picks, guys. I remember When Trumpets Fade. HBO movie, right?

Still awaiting the day when Netflix will ship Wings.
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Originally Posted by caligulathegod
The Godfather is what this challenge was created for. It's also why I have tried to de-emphasize total numbers. I encourage watching longer stuff for this challenge. Have at it.
Cool! Probably going to watch Godfather 2 tonight. I've watched a bunch of movies this month, but looking over the list I have to say that I'm proud of all the great movies I've revisited on blu-ray.

And they're long movies as well! lol
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A WW I movie that I highly recommend is JOYEAUX NOEL about the unofficial Christmas Eve truce called by French, German and British troops in 1914. Really powerful! If you can't fit it in now, watch it during the Christmas Challenge.
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Originally Posted by ororama
Waterloo Bridge is about an affair between a prostitute and a soldier on leave in London-the 1931 version acknowledges that she is a prostitute, the 1940 remake makes her a dancer.
Though it is quite clear in the remake that
Spoiler:
she has become a prostitute in the soldier's absence.
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Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
It may be a little too late to ask, but (Aside from Paths of Glory,All Quiet On The Western Front) is there any other well-acclaimed WWI movies?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...2.80.931918.29

World War I (1914–1918)

* Aces High (1976), air warfare
* The African Queen (1951)
* All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
* All Quiet on the Western Front (1979)
* All the King's Men (1999)
* Anzacs (1985), mini-series following Australian and New Zealand troops from recruitment to Gallipoli and the Western Front
* Beneath Hill 60 (2010)
* The Big Parade (1925)
* Biggles: Adventures in Time (1986), air warfare
* Black and White in Color (1976)
* Blackadder Goes Forth (1989), comedy-mini-series following a couple of british Soldiers in a trench in Flanders
* The Blue Max (1966), air warfare
* Canakkale Arslanlari (The Lions of Gallipoli War) (1964)
* Capitaine Conan (1996)
* Company K (2004)
* Darling Lili (1970)
* The Dawn Patrol (1930), air warfare
* The Dawn Patrol (1938), air warfare
* Deathwatch (2002)
* Dr. Zhivago (1965)
* The End of St. Petersburg (1927)
* A Farewell to Arms (1932)
* A Farewell to Arms (1957)
* Fighting 69th (1940)
* Flyboys (2006), air warfare
* Forty Thousand Horsemen (1940)
* Fräulein Doktor (1969), spy drama from the German point of view
* Gallipoli (1981), depiction of the Battle of Gallipoli
* Gallipoli (2005), documentary
* The Great Dictator (1940) set during World War I and the inter-war period.
* La Grande guerra (1959)
* Jericho (1937)
* Hell's Angels (1930)
* Hell Below (1933)
* In Love and War (1958)
* In Love and War (1996)
* Joyeux Noël (Merry Christmas) (2005)
* Johnny Got His Gun (1971)
* King of Hearts (1966)
* La Grande Illusion (1937)
* Lawrence of Arabia (1962), depiction of the Battle of Aqaba
* Legends of the Fall (1994)
* The Lighthorsemen (1987), depiction of the Battle of Beersheba
* The Lost Battalion (1919)
* The Lost Battalion (2001)
* The Lost Patrol (1934)
* March on the Drina (1964)
* Morgenrot (1933)
* My Boy Jack (2008)
* Oh! What a Lovely War (1969)
* Pack Up Your Troubles (1932)
* Passchendaele (2008)
* Paths of Glory (1957)
* The Red Baron (film) (2008)
* Regeneration (1997)
* The Road Back (1937)
* The Road to Glory (1936)
* Sergeant York (1941)
* Shoulder Arms (1918)
* Shout at the Devil (1976)
* The Spy in Black (1939)
* Tell England (1930)
* The Trench (1999), depiction of the Battle of the Somme
* A Very Long Engagement (2004)
* Von Richthofen and Brown (1971), air warfare
* Westfront 1918 (1930)
* What Price Glory (1926)
* What Price Glory (1952)
* Wings (1927), air warfare
* Ypres (film) (1925)
* Zeppelin (1971), air warfare
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Re: June 2010 History Film Challenge Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
Thanks for the picks, guys. I remember When Trumpets Fade. HBO movie, right?
Yes, it is an HBO movie. I remember I bought it on a blind buy a few years ago and was pleasantly surprised. Very dark, great movie.
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question: can I include /number my Ghost Stories/Most Haunted tv shows and consider them as "Documentaries" since the hauntings are remnants of the past history of people and places ??
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I don't think it's in the spirit (no pun intended) of the challenge, but I don't see any reason why not. We are allowing docs about humans and this is tangentially about humans. Go ahead.
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I think that you meant that pun, caligulathegod.
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Originally Posted by caligulathegod
I don't think it's in the spirit (no pun intended) of the challenge, but I don't see any reason why not. We are allowing docs about humans and this is tangentially about humans. Go ahead.
cool! thanks
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Finally got around to watching The Proposition (2005).

Holy moley, what an amazing film!


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