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Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by mrpayroll
(Post 9864746)
Leave the guy (girl ? :drool: ) alone! :lol:
I picked more than 5 years because I think most people who are DVD based are more than happy with the picture and quality. I think what will cause Blu Ray to overtake DVDz is the continuing rapid price drops that we are seeing. It seems that the movie studios are agressively lowering the wholesale prices they charge Amazon, etc. to buy copies. They keep the SRP high and when Amazon can sell something for 60% off the retail price we all jump on it like rabid dogs. It took DVDz almost 10 years before the prices started falling rapidly and that was because of the release of Blu Rays & HD DVD :rip: Feel free to disagree with me... but if ilovedeals is a girl... LEAVE HER ALONE! :mad: Chris |
Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
(Post 9871572)
I'm just saying when you're trying to argue prices and using funny money, it solves nothing.
Canada sucks, I'm not referring to the people trapped there. A Canadian dollar is equivilant to $.95 US, so it isn't much of a difference. $18.99 for a DVD compared to $26.99 for Blu, expressed as a per cent difference is still significant. I am surprised to hear that some stores are actually selling the Blu-ray for cheaper than the DVD. I suppose they are trying this tactic as a "loss leader" just to get people to sample Blu-ray and hoping if they like it they'll purchase a player and more discs (at the regular prices). |
Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by orangerunner
(Post 9872727)
I am surprised to hear that some stores are actually selling the Blu-ray for cheaper than the DVD. I suppose they are trying this tactic as a "loss leader" just to get people to sample Blu-ray and hoping if they like it they'll purchase a player and more discs (at the regular prices).
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Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by orangerunner
(Post 9872727)
I am surprised to hear that some stores are actually selling the Blu-ray for cheaper than the DVD. I suppose they are trying this tactic as a "loss leader" just to get people to sample Blu-ray and hoping if they like it they'll purchase a player and more discs (at the regular prices).
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Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Yeah, if anything it's the studios undercutting the wholesale price to the retailers to artificially juice sales. That's the source of the low prices. It's a reasonable approach and I wish them luck with it. I'm not going to be buying any of their product but I'm sure others will benefit.
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Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by mdnitoil
(Post 9872817)
Yeah, if anything it's the studios undercutting the wholesale price to the retailers to artificially juice sales. That's the source of the low prices. It's a reasonable approach and I wish them luck with it. I'm not going to be buying any of their product but I'm sure others will benefit.
The main thing that is holding Blu-ray back, now that players have come down in price considerably, is the fact that DVD is still considerably cheaper, with the exception of some of these special Blu-ray deals. Blu-ray isn't really expensive it's just that DVD has set the precendent of what people want to pay to own a movie, regardless of picture quality. Ideally (to the studios) if DVD were to disappear overnight, Blu-ray would be $25.99 (the traditional store price for DVD) and there would be no competition on the store shelf to give consumers reason to believe Blu-ray is too expensive. For years people had no problem paying $25.99 for a DVD because there was no comparable competition except for VHS which was perceived by the public as an enormous step down. Blu-ray now has DVD, video-on-demand, streaming, free downloading and just other forms of entertainment like the internet, iPods, cell phones, Twitter, Facebook and ever-growing rise of video games. DVD had some of these as competition in the late ninties/early 00's but to a much lesser degree. |
Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
How do people feel about spending their hard-earned money to buy Blu-Rays to replace DVD movies they might've only gotten around to watching only once? It seems such a ripoff to me.
I think if the price of Blu's come down and certain titles (Star Wars and Lord of the Rings) come out on DVD, it's inevitable that Blu will come into many peoples' homes. But there are many DVD titles which will never make it to Blu, for lack of better definition masters or not great enough sales return in the DVD format. |
Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by orangerunner
(Post 9872965)
...Blu-ray isn't really expensive it's just that DVD has set the precendent of what people want to pay to own a movie, regardless of picture quality...
$16 1-disk $22 2-disk $20 blu how is the above sustainable? rather: $10 1-disk $15 2-disk $20 blu kinda make sense to me. or: $16 1-disk $22 2-disk $28 blu but i dont think blu has much of a chance in this case. hows my logic? |
Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by Disc-Flipper
(Post 9873848)
How do people feel about spending their hard-earned money to buy Blu-Rays to replace DVD movies they might've only gotten around to watching only once? It seems such a ripoff to me.
But there are many DVD titles which will never make it to Blu, for lack of better definition masters or not great enough sales return in the DVD format. |
Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by Disc-Flipper
(Post 9873848)
How do people feel about spending their hard-earned money to buy Blu-Rays to replace DVD movies they might've only gotten around to watching only once? It seems such a ripoff to me.
I think if the price of Blu's come down and certain titles (Star Wars and Lord of the Rings) come out on DVD, it's inevitable that Blu will come into many peoples' homes. But there are many DVD titles which will never make it to Blu, for lack of better definition masters or not great enough sales return in the DVD format. Just as many DVD titles won't make it to blu-ray, the same can be said about VHS to DVD. There's more than a few items I'd like to get and until then I'm keeping my tapes. With something only being on DVD isn't as big of an issue since you can keep your DVD and play it in your blu-ray player. Much easier than trying to get a VHS tape to play in a DVD player. |
Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
I hate how every DVD release has now single Edition and 2-disc Edition. Not even on one format they can provide a definitive edition.
Bottom line if is cheap enough I buy regardless if is DVD or Blu-Ray |
Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by nando820
(Post 9874162)
I hate how every DVD release has now single Edition and 2-disc Edition. Not even on one format they can provide a definitive edition.
Bottom line if is cheap enough I buy regardless if is DVD or Blu-Ray |
Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
(Post 9871572)
I'm just saying when you're trying to argue prices and using funny money, it solves nothing.
Canada sucks, I'm not referring to the people trapped there. |
Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by Disc-Flipper
(Post 9873848)
How do people feel about spending their hard-earned money to buy Blu-Rays to replace DVD movies they might've only gotten around to watching only once? It seems such a ripoff to me.
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Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by ctyankee
(Post 9874404)
If someone is dumb enough to buy some film they've only "gotten around" to watch once ... that's on them.
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Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
DVD is already overtaken most everywhere I shop. Some desperate consumers are still clinging to it, and it's still where most of the TV sets are...but I think in 3 years BD will be dominating hard.
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Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
I think it would take over, flat screens are getting incresingly cheaper each time i look at them. i found it strange when VHS took over from BETA when beta was the better format but VHS was cheaper to produce. but that was way back when 80's...... Blue ray is awsume you just put it in and it plays straght away without the menus. yes it still does have menus you can display the menus without disrupting the movie being played which i think is a great option to have. the quality is awsome picture perfect. like on ice age the fury animals look real and fluffy, Harry potter you can see the details in the parchment paper plus other things look awsome. blue rays the way to go.
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Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
I have 2500 DVDs and 100 Blu Ray discs. I only have the movies I really, really like on Blu Ray. When Star Wars comes out on Blu Ray, I will get that. But most DVDs look fine on my 58 inch TV so I have no reason to upgrade those not to mention all the cheap prices on DVDs these days. I really think the studios are shooting themselves in the foot blowing out standard def DVDs for 3.00 bucks each. People will just buy whats cheap. There going to have to blow out Blu Rays to get people to upgrade. And I think DVD will continue to exist as long as Blu Ray does. There's too many titles that won't come out on Blu Ray, and too many people have DVD players. Something else will come along that will replace both DVD and Blu Ray. Something much more advanced.
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Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by Jigen75
(Post 9906268)
There's too many titles that won't come out on Blu Ray, and too many people have DVD players.
I write this as I sit here with my first BD purchase sitting next to me: How the West Was Won. Was tempted to buy the DVD once they got the picture cleaned up and the join lines fixed, but I didn't have a decent-sized screen to watch it on and, based on screen caps I've seen, really wanted the Smilebox version as those caps were making my jaw drop. I hope I'll be duly impressed when I watch it. |
Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by Jigen75
(Post 9906268)
There's too many titles that won't come out on Blu Ray, and too many people have DVD players. Something else will come along that will replace both DVD and Blu Ray. Something much more advanced.
I always hear people saying something about the next format that'll replace dvd and blu-ray. Of course something will. On the other hand, do you really think people won't have the same argument against switching to that, "Not everything will be on <new format>, DVD is fine for me". |
Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by indiephantom
(Post 9874625)
DVD is already overtaken most everywhere I shop. Some desperate consumers are still clinging to it, and it's still where most of the TV sets are...but I think in 3 years BD will be dominating hard.
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Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
(Post 9914845)
I always hear people saying something about the next format that'll replace dvd and blu-ray. Of course something will. On the other hand, do you really think people won't have the same argument against switching to that, "Not everything will be on <new format>, DVD is fine for me".
A formats success is usually based on timing, price and a perceived "need" for the product. Blu-ray has really thrown everything into marketing their product with machines as low as $99 down from about $249 in the summer and titles as low as $6.99. On the surface it seems to be working with Blu-ray putting itself front & centre but I always wonder about the enormous loses behind the scenes. The prices are great for the consumers but if Blu-ray doesn't take off in a really big way, can they keep selling their product at a "loss" to generate that desired high volume? Would it have been wiser to get the prices down & the volume up on the HDTV sets before coming out with HD Discs? Even if there wasn't an HD format war I think 2006 was a little too soon for the average consumer. Many people just bought a DVD player three or four years prior and weren't ready to switch. VHS was in most people's homes for 15+ years before DVD even hit the market. I think the public was much more open to changing formats, especially a format that was totally new and, at the time, revolutionary. It would have been interesting to see if they had let DVD level off, let people experience broadcast TV in HD, create an interest. When there's more consumer awareness, start to introduce the HD discs. Of course with so many emerging technologies it can be argued a disc format of any kind was already too little, too late by 2006. |
Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by Mister Peepers
(Post 9914845)
I always hear people saying something about the next format that'll replace dvd and blu-ray. Of course something will. On the other hand, do you really think people won't have the same argument against switching to that, "Not everything will be on <new format>, DVD is fine for me".
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Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 9915040)
I don't know for sure, but I'd be willing to say that there aren't very many titles left to be put out on DVD.
I ran into something amusing two nights ago. I was watching the third Harry Potter DVD and the preview at the beginning was for Elf. Coming soon on DVD and VHS. |
Re: do you think blu ray will over take dvds?
I just think Blu Ray is not advanced enough over DVD to replace it. They will live in harmony until something really exciting comes along that makes everyone want to upgrade. Right now most of the Blu Ray buying seems to be forced. The stores are shoving it down peoples throats, they are dropping the prices to DVD or below. The players are already under 100 bucks. Is Blu Ray really doing that well or is it just the fact that its the same or close to the same as DVD pricing? When DVD came out, there was no competition with VHS. For me it was so much better I didn't want to watch a VHS tape ever again.
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