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Labor 09-22-09 03:24 AM

Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
Was reading an article about some random upcoming Horror movie (The Hills run Red) and the Director said this, in regards to why he wasn't able to put his unrated cut on the DVD (the R version was actually shortened by 10 minutes due to ratings reason supposedly)


"The simple answer as to why, at this time, there is no unrated release of The Hills Run Red is that there was, from my understanding, a policy change at Warner Brothers, and that they were no longer going to release unrated versions of their movies," he says. "While at times this can be frustrating and distressing for a filmmaker, these are the realities that one faces while doing a movie for a studio. That being said, I have had nothing but great support from everyone at Dark Castle and Warner Premiere and the intention was only to make the best movie possible."
http://shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=11853

This would explain why they actually bothered to submit the Friday the 13th extended cut to the MPAA...I have no particular interest in this movie, but I wonder what their reasoning for doing away with Unrated DVDs is?

Alan Smithee 09-22-09 04:16 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
Will they release NC-17 rated movies?

tylergfoster 09-22-09 04:25 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
I have this movie to review for DVDTalk and I was wondering why it wasn't Unrated. Interesting.

drak b 09-22-09 07:51 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
Given that it’s Warner Brothers, they’ll probably take them off the marketplace for a short while and then bring them back on only Blu-Ray editions of their movies as yet another 'exclusive' incentive for that wonderful technology…

dkedvd 09-22-09 08:08 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
Yay! Again Warner Brothers screwing the fans of their movies/shows over. There was a time I used to like Warner Brothers but over the years they have gotten waaaaaay too P.C. and and just stopped caring about the fans. I love DVDs (obviously) but part of me thinks the popularity of the format has given studios too much power over what they put on it. They can do whatever they want and they know it will still sell. And this goes for a lot of things. Not just the topic of this thread. But I guess that's just how it will always be. You audience's money first... your audience themselves... second.

Giles 09-22-09 08:54 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
Warner Bros. I swear is run by a bunch of retarded donkeys - they keep changing their tune and policy on this like its deciding which pair of socks to wear.

Gizmo 09-22-09 10:01 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
How long before chris and/or phillip arrive?

moviezzz 09-22-09 10:23 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
I don't believe this is the case.

Warner is about to release the unrated directors cut of NATURAL BORN KILLERS, a title they had in the past licensed out to another studio.

If anything, they have gotten more liberal with their releases.

dkedvd 09-22-09 10:56 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 

Originally Posted by moviezzz (Post 9724010)
If anything, they have gotten more liberal with their releases.

Perhaps but I doubt we'll ever see those last two Tom & Jerry cartoons. :brickwl2:

PixyJunket 09-22-09 11:18 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
Most of the unrated stuff nowadays is just a marketing gimmick anyway. Let them submit older films that have reason to be released that way to be rerated (like F13) and keep the deleted scenes of new movies deleted as opposed to sloppily sticking them back into the movie and making them "UNRATED EXXXTREME" editions like everyone else does.

inri222 09-22-09 11:33 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 

Originally Posted by moviezzz (Post 9724010)
I don't believe this is the case.

Warner is about to release the unrated directors cut of NATURAL BORN KILLERS, a title they had in the past licensed out to another studio.

If anything, they have gotten more liberal with their releases.

I would agree, especially after them putting these out :

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Still waiting for this one though :

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...CL._SS500_.jpg

Giles 09-22-09 11:51 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
given how much attention the transfer for 'Cruising' was given, I'm surprised that it wasn't given a blu-ray release.... as for 'The Devils' - when pigs fly.

LeeVing 09-22-09 12:00 PM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
i think that's just what they told the director of a straight-to-dvd horror movie...maybe his unrated cut was just tooooo graphic.

Warner is even putting out the Harry Potter movies in extended form...which is the same thing as "unrated".

Giles 09-22-09 12:25 PM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 

Originally Posted by LeeVing (Post 9724245)
i think that's just what they told the director of a straight-to-dvd horror movie...maybe his unrated cut was just tooooo graphic.

Warner is even putting out the Harry Potter movies in extended form...which is the same thing as "unrated".

sort of, but not really. 'Unrated' in the days of VHS was always the indication that the restored footage was violence and/or sex that had been clipped at the bequest of the MPAA. Now a days if a studio wants to restore a movie of any footage, objectionable or not, they really don't have to resubmit and repay the Classification and Rating Administration to go through the whole process again.

philip74 09-22-09 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 9723973)
How long before chris and/or phillip arrive?

what could i still add :)
typical corporation with a huge hierarchy where everbody is probably just
trying to protect their own ass and they are miles away of putting
their minds into what clients really want.
smaller labels are usually trying much much harder to meet the customer and fan wishes and are more flexible to meet those demands and wishes.
still i think warner has become the most arrogant from the big studios, because if they were the least bit interested in their customers, they wouldn`t just ignore any customer emails.
you can already tell that they fear customer contact more than the devil
the holy water, by the fact that they don`t even list any email addresses
on their site :)
what i simply don`t understand is the fact that the industry is constantly
crying about dropping dvd sales, but their releases are getting more and
more effortless, rather than trying even harder to put the best product possible out.

-TRANCE- 09-22-09 05:08 PM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
Warner just sucks now plain and simple.

Labor 09-22-09 07:00 PM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 

Originally Posted by LeeVing (Post 9724245)
i think that's just what they told the director of a straight-to-dvd horror movie...maybe his unrated cut was just tooooo graphic.

Warner is even putting out the Harry Potter movies in extended form...which is the same thing as "unrated".

Nope. Warner submitted the Extended Harry Potter cuts to the MPAA, they are rated PG as well.

Living Dead 09-22-09 07:12 PM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 9723973)
How long before chris and/or phillip arrive?

Is The Hills Run Red over two hours?

WMAangel 09-22-09 11:56 PM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 

Originally Posted by moviezzz (Post 9724010)
I don't believe this is the case.

Warner is about to release the unrated directors cut of NATURAL BORN KILLERS, a title they had in the past licensed out to another studio.

If anything, they have gotten more liberal with their releases.

+1 :up:

I'm looking forward to watching my NBK unrated BD soon too!

Look at the original quote...the guy says "from my understanding", therefore he is merely drawing his own conclusions based only on whatever information he has and his own situation....the upcoming NBK release obviously is evidence that this is not some actual "policy change", but probably something that is looked at on a case by case basis....

tylergfoster 09-23-09 01:08 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
The Hangover gets both R and Unrated cuts, so it looks like this guy was fed some misinformation by WB.

Rypro 525 09-23-09 01:16 AM

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is NBK getting re released on regular DVD in its unrated/nc-17 version too? I'd love to retire my shitty looking non anamorphic Trimark version

MTRodaba2468 09-23-09 01:51 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 

Originally Posted by LeeVing (Post 9724245)
Warner is even putting out the Harry Potter movies in extended form...which is the same thing as "unrated".

Not quite. Unrated means exactly that. It hasn't been rated by the MPAA.

If they were to submit an extended cut or "Director's Cut" to the MPAA, it wouldn't be unrated, which is what they did for the Harry Potter extended cuts.

LeeVing 09-23-09 03:07 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
yeah..ok. so using Harry Potter as an example wasn't a good idea. I know what "unrated" means. I just didn't know that Warner submitted the extended cuts to the MPAA.

I still don't buy it.

Unrated cuts sell so much better than theatrical. Now everyone expects them to be released.

Space_Monkey 09-23-09 10:47 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
Great... First they start screwing us DVD purchasers with single disc theatrical releases with sub par features while the Blu owners get director cuts and all special features that would fit on the dvd(i.e Terminator Salvation, Trick r' Treat). Now comes the end of unrated cuts!
Warner was almost consistently on the top of my list for dvd studios but I can see those days are over.

godzilla rules 09-23-09 01:24 PM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
I think that they are only going to release "unrated" versions of movies on Blu-ray. It makes sense taking into account what they are doing now.

WMAangel 09-23-09 01:35 PM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 

Originally Posted by godzilla rules (Post 9726691)
I think that they are only going to release "unrated" versions of movies on Blu-ray. It makes sense taking into account what they are doing now.

I guess we'll see on Thursday, when the full details for The Hangover are released...however I doubt your conjecture is correct, as a VERY credible source has already stated here for it:

ON BLU-RAY AND 2-DISC SPECIAL EDITION DVD
INCLUDES THE THEATRICAL AND UNRATED VERSIONS OF THE FILM

outlander78 09-23-09 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by godzilla rules (Post 9726691)
I think that they are only going to release "unrated" versions of movies on Blu-ray. It makes sense taking into account what they are doing now.

I'm sure you are right. They sure are desperate to push people to the new players, aren't they?

I think unrated was a gimmick in itself - what they meant was generally that cut scenes were back in, but what they implied was that they were sexy or gory, which was not always the case.

If they would end the practice of selling a DVD release as the complete movie, and often cutting stuff just for that purpose, then this would be a non-issue. Remember the Friday 13th director saying that whole new storylines would be incorporated, and that essentially two different movies were being released to DVD?

When I buy an older movie on DVD - just bought Orient Express, for example - I don't worry about what is missing, altered etc. It would be nice to go back to that for new releases.

WMAangel 09-23-09 06:11 PM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 

Originally Posted by godzilla rules (Post 9726691)
I think that they are only going to release "unrated" versions of movies on Blu-ray. It makes sense taking into account what they are doing now.


Originally Posted by outlander78 (Post 9726905)
I'm sure you are right. They sure are desperate to push people to the new players, aren't they?

The full details for The Hangover completely disprove this hypothesis....clearly shown here, 2-disc DVD Unrated edition:

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releas...-hangover.html

Rypro 525 09-24-09 12:33 AM

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so wait, the Terminator Salvation DVD will only be the Theatrical and bare bones, while the blu is the R rated DC? Fucking bull shit if true

Giles 09-24-09 08:16 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 

Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 9727790)
so wait, the Terminator Salvation DVD will only be the Theatrical and bare bones, while the blu is the R rated DC? Fucking bull shit if true

that wouldn't surprise me, since the swing towards making stuff exclusive to blu-ray is becoming more common place. If I'm correct Paramount did this with 'Dance Flick' with the unrated cut exclusive to the bluray edition.

outlander78 09-24-09 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 9728053)
that wouldn't surprise me, since the swing towards making stuff exclusive to blu-ray is becoming more common place. If I'm correct Paramount did this with 'Dance Flick' with the unrated cut exclusive to the bluray edition.

Do you mean extras or basic movies? I'm annoyed at the extras being left off of DVD releases, but haven't noticed any delayed or skipped DVD releases yet - did I miss some?

Giles 09-24-09 10:32 AM

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basic movies - it's rare but unrated/extended cuts exclusive to the hidef release IS becoming a reality. I can only think of three:
- Dance Flix
- In the Name of the King
- Heat

WMAangel 09-24-09 10:59 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
I don't want to see yet another thread turn into a BD vs. DVD bitchfest, but it has to be pointed out (whenever it is brought up as people incorrectly think it is SO one-sided) that for every "unrated/extended/director's cut" version that is exclusive to BD, there is at least one other title that BD did not get and remains exclusive to DVD:
Die Hard 4
Mr & Mrs. Smith
Fantastic 4
Commando
ID4
Saw
Con Air
Enemy Of The State
Sling Blade
Pretty Woman
Halloween (1978)
This probably isn't even the full list, but you get the idea....

BSTNFAN 09-24-09 11:26 AM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 

Originally Posted by WMAangel (Post 9728434)
I don't want to see yet another thread turn into a BD vs. DVD bitchfest, but it has to be pointed out (whenever it is brought up as people incorrectly think it is SO one-sided) that for every "unrated/extended/director's cut" version that is exclusive to BD, there is at least one other title that BD did not get and remains exclusive to DVD:
Die Hard 4
Mr & Mrs. Smith
Fantastic 4
Commando
ID4
Saw
Con Air
Enemy Of The State
Sling Blade
Pretty Woman
Halloween (1978)
This probably isn't even the full list, but you get the idea....

Off the top of my head, I can add Punisher and Basic Instinct 2.

Josh Z 09-24-09 12:47 PM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 

Originally Posted by BSTNFAN (Post 9728504)
Off the top of my head, I can add Punisher and Basic Instinct 2.

Also:

The Last Emperor
Lethal Weapon
Lethal Weapon 2
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Star Trek II
Star Trek VI
UltraViolet

asianxcore 09-24-09 01:53 PM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
This stinks.

An article in the latest issue of Fangoria had me interested in The Hills Run Red, but I'll probably pass on it this Tuesday if it was excised of 10 minutes of footage.

Damn you Warner!

Solid Snake 09-24-09 02:09 PM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 

Originally Posted by Giles (Post 9728355)
basic movies - it's rare but unrated/extended cuts exclusive to the hidef release IS becoming a reality. I can only think of three:
- Dance Flix
- In the Name of the King
- Heat

what do you mean about Heat?

this link talks about some "changes" to the film...but what changes?
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/heat5.html

Rypro 525 09-24-09 02:12 PM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
my guess would be subtle things or if there was a line or so he didn't like, or if there is/was a better take, he'll switch it in the BD release

Giles 09-24-09 02:13 PM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
Mann has the bothersome quirk of re-editing his films on a whim.

Solid Snake 09-24-09 02:17 PM

Re: Warner no longer releasing Unrated DVDs...?
 
Does he? I like Mann but I'm not a follower on what he does or anything. Hrm. I like Heat as it is with it's running time and it's editing. I'm totally in for a HD version of it though. Though...I may be out if he some misses with it. There's a rumored 188 min of Heat, is that true? Never heard of it till today.


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