WMAangel

I guess we'll see on Thursday, when the full details for The Hangover are released...however I doubt your conjecture is correct, as a VERY credible source has already stated here for it:

ON BLU-RAY AND 2-DISC SPECIAL EDITION DVD
INCLUDES THE THEATRICAL AND UNRATED VERSIONS OF THE FILM

outlander78

I'm sure you are right. They sure are desperate to push people to the new players, aren't they?

I think unrated was a gimmick in itself - what they meant was generally that cut scenes were back in, but what they implied was that they were sexy or gory, which was not always the case.

If they would end the practice of selling a DVD release as the complete movie, and often cutting stuff just for that purpose, then this would be a non-issue. Remember the Friday 13th director saying that whole new storylines would be incorporated, and that essentially two different movies were being released to DVD?

When I buy an older movie on DVD - just bought Orient Express, for example - I don't worry about what is missing, altered etc. It would be nice to go back to that for new releases.

WMAangel

The full details for The Hangover completely disprove this hypothesis....clearly shown here, 2-disc DVD Unrated edition:

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releas...-hangover.html

Rypro 525

so wait, the Terminator Salvation DVD will only be the Theatrical and bare bones, while the blu is the R rated DC? Fucking bull shit if true

Giles

that wouldn't surprise me, since the swing towards making stuff exclusive to blu-ray is becoming more common place. If I'm correct Paramount did this with 'Dance Flick' with the unrated cut exclusive to the bluray edition.

outlander78

Do you mean extras or basic movies? I'm annoyed at the extras being left off of DVD releases, but haven't noticed any delayed or skipped DVD releases yet - did I miss some?

Giles

basic movies - it's rare but unrated/extended cuts exclusive to the hidef release IS becoming a reality. I can only think of three:
- Dance Flix
- In the Name of the King
- Heat

WMAangel

I don't want to see yet another thread turn into a BD vs. DVD bitchfest, but it has to be pointed out (whenever it is brought up as people incorrectly think it is SO one-sided) that for every "unrated/extended/director's cut" version that is exclusive to BD, there is at least one other title that BD did not get and remains exclusive to DVD:
Die Hard 4
Mr & Mrs. Smith
Fantastic 4
Commando
ID4
Saw
Con Air
Enemy Of The State
Sling Blade
Pretty Woman
Halloween (1978)
This probably isn't even the full list, but you get the idea....

BSTNFAN

Off the top of my head, I can add Punisher and Basic Instinct 2.

Josh Z

Also:

The Last Emperor
Lethal Weapon
Lethal Weapon 2
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Star Trek II
Star Trek VI
UltraViolet

asianxcore

This stinks.

An article in the latest issue of Fangoria had me interested in The Hills Run Red, but I'll probably pass on it this Tuesday if it was excised of 10 minutes of footage.

Damn you Warner!

Solid Snake

what do you mean about Heat?

this link talks about some "changes" to the film...but what changes?
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/heat5.html

Rypro 525

my guess would be subtle things or if there was a line or so he didn't like, or if there is/was a better take, he'll switch it in the BD release

Giles

Mann has the bothersome quirk of re-editing his films on a whim.

Solid Snake

Does he? I like Mann but I'm not a follower on what he does or anything. Hrm. I like Heat as it is with it's running time and it's editing. I'm totally in for a HD version of it though. Though...I may be out if he some misses with it. There's a rumored 188 min of Heat, is that true? Never heard of it till today.

Giles

maybe those '11 additional scenes' noted on the back of the bluray amount to 18 minutes of footage.

Solid Snake

maybe...dunno if I'd want an even longer version of Heat. Anybody know of Heat's history in the post production phase? I assumed that the current Heat, which was also the theatrical cut, was the definitive cut of Mann's? Did he ever test a longer cut of Heat? etc etc.

Giles

saw this over at imdb (not that they are 100% accurate information all the time)

runtime: 171 min | USA:188 min (original pre-aired NBC version)

Television version aired by NBC on January 3rd, 1999 was disowned by director Michael Mann and credited to Alan Smithee because, though Mann offered to reinstate 17 minutes of deleted footage in the film to make it fit a four hour timeslot, NBC decided to excise over 40 minutes of footage from the theatrical release in order to make it fit a three hour slot (including commercials).

so the bluray looks like it's actually missing a minute.

inri222

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113277/alternateversions


Television version aired by NBC on January 3rd, 1999 was disowned by director Michael Mann and credited to Alan Smithee because, though Mann offered to reinstate 17 minutes of deleted footage in the film to make it fit a four hour timeslot, NBC decided to excise over 40 minutes of footage from the theatrical release in order to make it fit a three hour slot (including commercials).

outlander78

In Heat, Pacino was supposed to be a cocaine user, hence his rants from time to time. Maybe Mann is putting those back in?

Solid Snake

I remember them saying that in one of the docs on the DVD.

hindolio

no bitchfests from me! but from history, i can somewhat confidently state... double dip, my friend. yesh, you know it.

Solid Snake

Just from checking out what my Heat 2 disc DVD says on the back..it also says 11 additional scenes ie deleted/extended scenes. So....I'd still like to know wtf he's litereally doing to the film.

Spiderbite

Warner still seems to be on the kick of not releasing any unrated versions on BD.

Was there any reason given as to WHY they decided to do this? It just doesn't make financial sense to me.

PhantomStranger

That's not true, they just don't advertise it anymore on the packaging.

WB recently released the unrated director's cut of The Cell on Blu-ray.

http://www.doblu.com/2015/07/14/the-...lu-ray-review/