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#251
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I'm not just picking on any one post but there is a lot of rationalizing going on. The argument of 'what's the issue, we piss money away on other things so why not this' is illogical. It's one of the reasons we have a trillion dollar plus deficit by basically ignoring what our mothers told us in 2nd grade to those kind of arguments: 'Well if Johnny jumped off a bridge, would you?"
If I wanted an avatar I can get one for free on Home Theatre forum. Countdown feature? Nope no interest.
Will I miss the posters that will be hanging in the premium areas? To be brutally frank the shark jumped on DVD discussions years ago. And quality posters in film discussion went elsewhere because they were frustrated with the responses to their quality posts. So posters moving to premium area means nothing as they are just the people that still remain. Don't get me wrong there are some terrific people still around and still some good discussions ... but nope, not like it was. So now the people going to the premium area will have even fewer people to see and respond to their posts. So, why put any time into quality posts? Just burp out a response and see your post count go to 18,409 ... and be happy you're among other posters paying for the privilege of burping out one liners seen by fewer people than ever.
I still do some posting but most of my scanning of posts is in the Bargain area. I don't buy the premise that deals will be hidden off in the premium area. What I do believe is that Premium Members will now have to go to more sub-forums to get what they used to get in one locations. That's progress? So, it seems like a negative value for many and one they have to pay for.
If I wanted an avatar I can get one for free on Home Theatre forum. Countdown feature? Nope no interest.
Will I miss the posters that will be hanging in the premium areas? To be brutally frank the shark jumped on DVD discussions years ago. And quality posters in film discussion went elsewhere because they were frustrated with the responses to their quality posts. So posters moving to premium area means nothing as they are just the people that still remain. Don't get me wrong there are some terrific people still around and still some good discussions ... but nope, not like it was. So now the people going to the premium area will have even fewer people to see and respond to their posts. So, why put any time into quality posts? Just burp out a response and see your post count go to 18,409 ... and be happy you're among other posters paying for the privilege of burping out one liners seen by fewer people than ever.
I still do some posting but most of my scanning of posts is in the Bargain area. I don't buy the premise that deals will be hidden off in the premium area. What I do believe is that Premium Members will now have to go to more sub-forums to get what they used to get in one locations. That's progress? So, it seems like a negative value for many and one they have to pay for.
#252
I'm not just picking on any one post but there is a lot of rationalizing going on. The argument of 'what's the issue, we piss money away on other things so why not this' is illogical. It's one of the reasons we have a trillion dollar plus deficit by basically ignoring what our mothers told us in 2nd grade to those kind of arguments: 'Well if Johnny jumped off a bridge, would you?"
The bottom line, which I think is sad, is the fact that the decision by IB to do this has created somewhat of an apparent wedge between long standing regular members (who cares about the guys with < 100 posts, right .. heh). Talk about inflammatory!
And as far as the arguments go about the possibilities (future options not yet announced) instead of the existing options - realistically, it's null and void. Dream all you want.
I could eat for two days on $10, some couldn't even get by for a modest $10 on a meal (as far as true "value" goes). But for a year of additional features (75 PMs as an option (might be elsewhere but has not been on DVDTalk)) a silly little meaningless avatar is satisfactory for me, where I've spent plenty of time for the past ... who knows how many years.
If one wants to start rationalizing $10 (aside from "principle"), how much time have you spent watching the last DVD or two that you purchased for the same amount? What 2 hours, 4, 8, 20? How much time have you spent on this site ...for free, for the last so many years? And did that $10 for those DVDs go to some greedy, inhuman, evil corporation ... or was it a more personal independent affair?
I just don't understand what the debate is about. Either do it or don't, but why all the lip service and "justifications" if you will? There's no cause to be won, no bragging rights, no extra special savings deals, no writing on the wall. I don't know .. whatever.
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#254
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#255
DVD Talk Hero
I'm not just picking on any one post but there is a lot of rationalizing going on. The argument of 'what's the issue, we piss money away on other things so why not this' is illogical. It's one of the reasons we have a trillion dollar plus deficit by basically ignoring what our mothers told us in 2nd grade to those kind of arguments: 'Well if Johnny jumped off a bridge, would you?"
If I wanted an avatar I can get one for free on Home Theatre forum. Countdown feature? Nope no interest.
Will I miss the posters that will be hanging in the premium areas? To be brutally frank the shark jumped on DVD discussions years ago. And quality posters in film discussion went elsewhere because they were frustrated with the responses to their quality posts. So posters moving to premium area means nothing as they are just the people that still remain. Don't get me wrong there are some terrific people still around and still some good discussions ... but nope, not like it was. So now the people going to the premium area will have even fewer people to see and respond to their posts. So, why put any time into quality posts? Just burp out a response and see your post count go to 18,409 ... and be happy you're among other posters paying for the privilege of burping out one liners seen by fewer people than ever.
I still do some posting but most of my scanning of posts is in the Bargain area. I don't buy the premise that deals will be hidden off in the premium area. What I do believe is that Premium Members will now have to go to more sub-forums to get what they used to get in one locations. That's progress? So, it seems like a negative value for many and one they have to pay for.
If I wanted an avatar I can get one for free on Home Theatre forum. Countdown feature? Nope no interest.
Will I miss the posters that will be hanging in the premium areas? To be brutally frank the shark jumped on DVD discussions years ago. And quality posters in film discussion went elsewhere because they were frustrated with the responses to their quality posts. So posters moving to premium area means nothing as they are just the people that still remain. Don't get me wrong there are some terrific people still around and still some good discussions ... but nope, not like it was. So now the people going to the premium area will have even fewer people to see and respond to their posts. So, why put any time into quality posts? Just burp out a response and see your post count go to 18,409 ... and be happy you're among other posters paying for the privilege of burping out one liners seen by fewer people than ever.
I still do some posting but most of my scanning of posts is in the Bargain area. I don't buy the premise that deals will be hidden off in the premium area. What I do believe is that Premium Members will now have to go to more sub-forums to get what they used to get in one locations. That's progress? So, it seems like a negative value for many and one they have to pay for.
#257
DVD Talk Legend
I re-read all eleven pages of this thread, and there is ONE person who said he can't afford it and ONE person who is waiting for his next paycheck to join. Get off your high horse and come to grips with the idea that most of us who have decided not to join have done so for reasons other than the actual cost.
Last edited by Mr. Salty; 12-27-08 at 12:13 AM.
#261
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About 5 or 6 years ago I gave $20 to HTF when they needed a new server and were collecting money. Of course that's when the forum was much more popular and useful.
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The avatar is a great way to express oneself visually, and I would enjoy it. But that's the only perk of the premium membership that really interests me. Now, give me easy access to my entire history of posts, and I would be more inclined to give over $10.
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#273
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Would there be a way to stop the avatars from displaying if you don't care to see them? Disabling them entirely for non-members (an optimal solution, from my "free" perspective) or, hell, I'd almost consider paying the fee if it meant being able to get rid of them. I much preferred browsing these forums when there were no images attached to many of the posts.
#274
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Would there be a way to stop the avatars from displaying if you don't care to see them? Disabling them entirely for non-members (an optimal solution, from my "free" perspective) or, hell, I'd almost consider paying the fee if it meant being able to get rid of them. I much preferred browsing these forums when there were no images attached to many of the posts.
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I was going to avoid posting in here (fell behind and didn't feel like catching back up) ... but I can't resist ...
You wanna know how to get *Premium Members*? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the *DVDTalk* way! And that's how you get *Premium Members*. Now do you want to do that? Are you ready to do that? I'm offering you a deal. Do you want this deal?
You wanna know how to get *Premium Members*? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the *DVDTalk* way! And that's how you get *Premium Members*. Now do you want to do that? Are you ready to do that? I'm offering you a deal. Do you want this deal?