Looney Tunes - Golden Collection...worth buying?
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Looney Tunes - Golden Collection...worth buying?
I'm a huge Bugs Bunny/Road Runner fan. I notice they now have these cartoons available as 6 different box sets. What I want to to know is:
1)Is the recent Looney Tunes: Golden Collection Vol. 6 set the last set that will conclude the release or will there be more?
2)Has there been any indication on whether or not they there is going to be one giant box set containing the ENTIRE catalog of cartoons instead of seperate sets?
3)What is the difference between the Looney Tunes: Golden Collection and the Looney Tunes: Spotlight Collection?
1)Is the recent Looney Tunes: Golden Collection Vol. 6 set the last set that will conclude the release or will there be more?
2)Has there been any indication on whether or not they there is going to be one giant box set containing the ENTIRE catalog of cartoons instead of seperate sets?
3)What is the difference between the Looney Tunes: Golden Collection and the Looney Tunes: Spotlight Collection?
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1. Last in the series, but supposedly a different line of releases is in the cards.
2. Not sure
3. The spotlight collections are just two discs out of the Golden Collection. So Spotlight Collection 1 is two discs out of the 4 disc Golden Collection 1.
2. Not sure
3. The spotlight collections are just two discs out of the Golden Collection. So Spotlight Collection 1 is two discs out of the 4 disc Golden Collection 1.
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2. Given that there are six 4-disc releases already and I've read other people note these have barely scratched the surface of all the catalog, I don't think a massive release would even be feasible.
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The golden collections are worth buying, especially at the low price that Costco has them right now. We don't know yet what are the future plans that WB has in store for Looney Tunes cartoons, but as for right now, the Golden Collections are the best sets available if you want to view these classic toons again. I just hope that in the future, WB release these cartoons in a more organized way, similar to what Disney has done with their Treasure collections.
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Jerry Beck has stated in a radio interview that if the LTGC Vol 6 sells better than expected (and their expectations are "mild"), then we may see a continuation of the GC's. Otherwise, as you say, they will be released as a new line.
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The Golden Collections are great, but WB has put out a great majority of the best cartoons already. All are worth buying and I'm eager to pick up Vol. 6 next week.
My suggestion is to switch to Universal's model for Woody Woodpecker. 75 cartoons per set (3-disc) with only archival materials as extras. Stuff like music-only tracks, Bugs Bunny Show segments, commercials, miscellany. Restored and remastered, of course.
My suggestion is to switch to Universal's model for Woody Woodpecker. 75 cartoons per set (3-disc) with only archival materials as extras. Stuff like music-only tracks, Bugs Bunny Show segments, commercials, miscellany. Restored and remastered, of course.
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The people who were waiting for Foghorn Leghorn and Pepe Le Pew are going to be really upset that Vol. 6 has a disc of Bosko and Buddy instead. Almost no one cares about those cartoons. Those cartoons should have had their own seperate release instead of being mixed in on Vol. 6 with the cartoons that everyone wants.
Want to make something that sells a huge amount? Release a 10 disc (single sided, double layered) set of 300 cartoons where each disc has a wide variety of characters. That would sell very, very well.
If a 10 disc set would be too expensive for a lot of people, then how about 10 individual releases, with 30 cartoons per disc?
Each disc could have:
3 Bugs and Elmer cartoons
2 Bugs and Sam
1 Bugs and minor villain
1 Bugs and Daffy
4 Daffy
1 Daffy and Porky
2 Porky
3 Tweety and Sylvester
2 Road Runner
2 Foghorn Leghorn
1 Speedy Gonzales
1 Pepe Le Pew
1 Marvin the Martian or 1 Tasmanian Devil
1 Marc Antony and Pussyfoot or 1 Hubie and Bertie
1 Wolf and Sheepdog or 1 Goofy Gophers
4 Miscellaneous or one shots or some other cartoon, which could include any of the above characters
Mix the cartoons around so no character appears in two consecutive cartoons.
Each disc could have a suggested price of $19.99 and an actual price of $13.99.
They could be called "Classic Looney Tunes Vol. 1" and so on.
Huge numbers of people would buy these.
I understand that Jerry Beck has been limited in what cartoons he could remaster. But at some point in the future, enough cartoons will have been remastered that a release like this will be possible.
Since the cartoons will already have been remastered, it should be very easy and cost effective for Warner Bros to release something like this. Just as it's very easy for record companies to release a "greatest hits" album after a band has released enough albums.
I love Road Runner cartoons. But who wants to watch 11 of them in a row, as is the current situation?
Wouldn't it be more fun to watch a Bugs cartoon, and then a Road Runner cartoon, and then a Tweety and Sylvester cartoon?
Last edited by grundle; 10-24-08 at 05:01 PM.
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Grundle really hits the nail on the head here. The way he lays it out would come a lot closer to matching what I (and I think many others) grew up with; watching these on Saturday mornings, with a mix of different characters.
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Do these sets ever seem to hit similar prices elsewhere? There's no Costco here and I've been thinking about picking some of the Golden Collections up, but can't bring myself to pay almost twice what they're available for in some areas.
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Not that I know off. For some reason Costco seems to be the store that always has these incredible low prices on the Looney Tunes sets.
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Wait, there are only 11 RR cartoons in the entire Golden Collection? Is this accurate? I'm hoping there are at least 50 or so of them.
How many cartoons are there of Sylvestor and Tweety, and Elmer Fudd? Which character, other than Bugs, dominates the collection as far as appearances go?
Last but not least, how would you rate the new Flinstones Entire Series Collection compared to the Looney Tunes one?
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Price is a big factor as well. $50 SRP is too high, IMO, and I doubt I'm alone. I haven't bought past Collection 2 myself, for the reasons Grundle posted as well as price.
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I also agree with the lack of variety....but I do love the bonus features with these sets.
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Grundle really hits the nail on the head here. The way he lays it out would come a lot closer to matching what I (and I think many others) grew up with; watching these on Saturday mornings, with a mix of different characters.
If I ever get my dream HTPC put together, I'll be rectifying this issue in a way I can't talk about here.
If I ever get my dream HTPC put together, I'll be rectifying this issue in a way I can't talk about here.
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Wait, there are only 11 RR cartoons in the entire Golden Collection? Is this accurate? I'm hoping there are at least 50 or so of them.
How many cartoons are there of Sylvestor and Tweety, and Elmer Fudd? Which character, other than Bugs, dominates the collection as far as appearances go?
Last but not least, how would you rate the new Flinstones Entire Series Collection compared to the Looney Tunes one?
How many cartoons are there of Sylvestor and Tweety, and Elmer Fudd? Which character, other than Bugs, dominates the collection as far as appearances go?
Last but not least, how would you rate the new Flinstones Entire Series Collection compared to the Looney Tunes one?
There's one disc that has 11 in a row. There are a few others on some other discs. The original studio made 24 before it closed in 1964. Some more were made later by some former employees who started their own studio, and they aren't nearly as good.
There were 42 Tweety and Sylvester cartoons made by the original studio. Most of them have not been included, which is shame, as they are my favorite characters. There is one disc that has 9 in a row, and a few others were released on other discs.
Daffy is the second most common character on these DVDs. There is a grossly near total absence of Foghorn Leghorn and Pepe Le Pew.
I don't own any of the Flintstones sets.
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Price is always a factor for every DVD release. But a lot of work went into remastering these, so I don't object to the price. I have the first 4 sets, and the only thing that's held me back from buying 5 and 6 so far is the content issues which I mentioned. I might buy those in the future, or I might not.
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The only way they should 'start over' with these is by releasing them in character sets. Hopefully on BD as well.
The Complete Bugs Bunny
The Complete Road Runner
The Complete Daffy Duck
The Complete Foghorn Leghorn
The Complete Yosemite Sam
The Complete Porky Pig
The Complete Speedy Gonzales
The Complete Pepe Le Pew
The Complete Tweety & Sylvester
Do as many 4 or 6-disc box sets as it takes to complete each character. Also do complete sets for the early and miscellaneous shorts.
I realize this goes against the double-dip rule that Jerry Beck says WB won't break but I think this would be a good reason to do it. This would be the only way I, personally, would double-dip on these shorts in SD. If they came out at the same time in BD then I would go with that.
The Complete Bugs Bunny
The Complete Road Runner
The Complete Daffy Duck
The Complete Foghorn Leghorn
The Complete Yosemite Sam
The Complete Porky Pig
The Complete Speedy Gonzales
The Complete Pepe Le Pew
The Complete Tweety & Sylvester
Do as many 4 or 6-disc box sets as it takes to complete each character. Also do complete sets for the early and miscellaneous shorts.
I realize this goes against the double-dip rule that Jerry Beck says WB won't break but I think this would be a good reason to do it. This would be the only way I, personally, would double-dip on these shorts in SD. If they came out at the same time in BD then I would go with that.
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One of the problems is that there are a lot of ways to package the discs, and none of them seem to be a method that would make a consumer want them all.
By character: Like grundle said, nobody really wants to see 10 cartoons in a row of the same character (except maybe someone like Bugs). Disney Treasures does a good job of doing things by character and chronologically, but it's not for everyone.
For Chronology, only a completist/historian/etc would get stuff from the first few years, but at least you'd get the variety, and the historical timeline of how the characters evolved. Maybe if they started it up at the late 30s, and then released the earlier stuff later, that could ease people into it.
Releasing them according to Animator sets would be good, but then again, probably most of the shorts weren't done by the big guys, so those would be hard to classify. This scenario reminds me of the 007 Box sets, where they weren't classified by Bond actor, but in a random order, because they knew some sets would sell far better than others.
And again, even with all these ways...there are so many shorts to get through.
By character: Like grundle said, nobody really wants to see 10 cartoons in a row of the same character (except maybe someone like Bugs). Disney Treasures does a good job of doing things by character and chronologically, but it's not for everyone.
For Chronology, only a completist/historian/etc would get stuff from the first few years, but at least you'd get the variety, and the historical timeline of how the characters evolved. Maybe if they started it up at the late 30s, and then released the earlier stuff later, that could ease people into it.
Releasing them according to Animator sets would be good, but then again, probably most of the shorts weren't done by the big guys, so those would be hard to classify. This scenario reminds me of the 007 Box sets, where they weren't classified by Bond actor, but in a random order, because they knew some sets would sell far better than others.
And again, even with all these ways...there are so many shorts to get through.
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Folks, here's a good overview of the releases:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looney_...den_Collection
You can see just what is included and in what proportion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looney_...den_Collection
You can see just what is included and in what proportion.
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It just seems to me there's got to be a point where they can make the big complete set, or the mixed sets for the completist collector, then do one with just the Connery films for the sub-collectors. You're not moving the other films, but then you're also not having to produce them either.
I do think it's a little different for the Looney Tunes because I'm pretty sure most fans want a mix of characters, though there's got to be some fans that just want a disc or two of Foghorn Leghorn or Speedy Gonzales that could be release separately for them.
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I've been very happy with the releases. I figure if I get tired with a disc, I'll just take it out and put in a different one. I don't think there's a way to release them that would really please everybody. As you've seen just here on the forum, there's are people who would like by characters and others that would want just pure variety.
And I keep trying to remind myself that not everyone collects like most of us on this forum. For those that only want a variety or don't want to focus on one character or a complete collection, I think the Spotlight Collection series is a very good option. And I'm sure that most people would probably fall into that category. If you are a completist, you go with the Golden Collection and accept the fact that there's sometimes a price in being a collector.
And I keep trying to remind myself that not everyone collects like most of us on this forum. For those that only want a variety or don't want to focus on one character or a complete collection, I think the Spotlight Collection series is a very good option. And I'm sure that most people would probably fall into that category. If you are a completist, you go with the Golden Collection and accept the fact that there's sometimes a price in being a collector.



