The X-Files: I Want To Believe--> 12/2/08: w/ Extended and Theatrical Cuts
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I loved the show until probably the fifth season...maybe sixth. I went into this hoping to see the characters I loved interacting again, and was hugely disappointed. I'm a fan of The X Files, but not this movie.
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WHy dont they sell a two disk and a three disk instead of a one and three disk? Give us a two disk with the movie and documentary and for those who are into those damn digital copies make them pay more for it if they want it.
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For those hoping for a 3rd film, I wouldn't hold your breath. Maybe something direct to DVD down the road... but I think it's safe to say that X-Files won't get another bite at the theatrical apple. The reviews were bad and the box office on this thing couldn't be described as anything other than very disappointing.
The 1998 movie made $189 million. This one made $42 million.
No one at Fox is going to greenlight another one of these.
The 1998 movie made $189 million. This one made $42 million.
No one at Fox is going to greenlight another one of these.
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Where are you getting your info from?
It bombed in the US: $21 million
It bombed overseas: $21 million
It's total worldwide gross is $42 million, NOT $60 million.
It cost $30 million to make, so if you include advert costs, it's just barely made it's money back so far.
It bombed in the US: $21 million
It bombed overseas: $21 million
It's total worldwide gross is $42 million, NOT $60 million.
It cost $30 million to make, so if you include advert costs, it's just barely made it's money back so far.
Total US Gross $20,936,453
International Gross $43,445,451
Worldwide Gross $64,381,904
http://the-numbers.com/movies/2008/XFIL2.php
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A fine theatrical experience of a story that would have fit better on TV. Not great, but not bad. Definitely in for the 3-disc "X-Phile" edition. Great covers, too.
Could be. I don't see it at Best Buy or Circuit City, and its availability at Amazon is only from other sellers. Sort of strange; one would think Fox would re-release it as a companion with the newest one. Especially since they're bringing it out on Blu-ray (with cover art that matches I Want to Believe).
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Theatrical Performance
Total US Gross $20,936,453
International Gross $43,445,451
Worldwide Gross $64,381,904
http://the-numbers.com/movies/2008/XFIL2.php
Total US Gross $20,936,453
International Gross $43,445,451
Worldwide Gross $64,381,904
http://the-numbers.com/movies/2008/XFIL2.php
TOTAL LIFETIME GROSSES
Domestic: $20,936,453 49.5%
+ Foreign: $21,354,421 50.5%
= Worldwide: $42,290,874
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=xfiles2.htm
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Box Office Mojo hasn't been doing a good job with keeping their international grosses fully updated the last few months, so I'd say The-Numbers.com is correct. Worldwide, the movie performed okay. Not a huge hit, but not a big bomb either.
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For those hoping for a 3rd film, I wouldn't hold your breath. Maybe something direct to DVD down the road... but I think it's safe to say that X-Files won't get another bite at the theatrical apple. The reviews were bad and the box office on this thing couldn't be described as anything other than very disappointing.
The 1998 movie made $189 million. This one made $42 million.
No one at Fox is going to greenlight another one of these.
The 1998 movie made $189 million. This one made $42 million.
No one at Fox is going to greenlight another one of these.
Which pretty much translates to wait until it comes out on DVD and rent it.
The shitty box office showing is their own damned fault.
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A $64 million worldwide gross on a $35 million budget isn't terrible.
It'll do well on DVD because all the people who thought it didn't look interesting enough to see in theaters will rent it.
Once it's all said and done, I could see them possibly doing a TV movie or a direct-to-DVD movie some day. We'll never see another one in theaters, that's for sure. It did bomb in the US, and any future theatrical outings would as well.
It'll do well on DVD because all the people who thought it didn't look interesting enough to see in theaters will rent it.
Once it's all said and done, I could see them possibly doing a TV movie or a direct-to-DVD movie some day. We'll never see another one in theaters, that's for sure. It did bomb in the US, and any future theatrical outings would as well.
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Yeah, absolutely. It's based on a TV show that they did for a big chunk of their careers, so doing a TV movie isn't a step down at all.
Duchovny himself is still on television with his Showtime show, Californication. I think they'd object to doing a TV movie if they had become bigger stars after the show ended, but they didn't. They're famous, just not REALLY famous.
Duchovny himself is still on television with his Showtime show, Californication. I think they'd object to doing a TV movie if they had become bigger stars after the show ended, but they didn't. They're famous, just not REALLY famous.
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I walked out of this movie, stupified, with a low 'What?' on my lips... I think, just like the Star Trek series, that they let the wrong people in charge of the series (Berman and Carter).
X-Files 2 was a good movie - a GREAT psychlogical drama for maybe a TV show. I enjoyed the movie, but it was SO WRONG for the follow up theatrical release to Fight the Future. It totally misunderstands what was needed to breathe life into the movie franchise it could have become and it wraps up and really adds nothing to the open questions that fans are looking for.
All of that being said, I think there WILL be a 3rd movie. The wrap up to the mythology with a huge budget and a good script, hopefully NOT written and directed by Chris Carter and it will make a ton of money if done right. They pretty much got exactly what they thought they would when they submitted that script and released the movie at THAT time. It still has potential to make 50-60 million or more in profit once DVD and rental get out there...
X-Files 2 was a good movie - a GREAT psychlogical drama for maybe a TV show. I enjoyed the movie, but it was SO WRONG for the follow up theatrical release to Fight the Future. It totally misunderstands what was needed to breathe life into the movie franchise it could have become and it wraps up and really adds nothing to the open questions that fans are looking for.
All of that being said, I think there WILL be a 3rd movie. The wrap up to the mythology with a huge budget and a good script, hopefully NOT written and directed by Chris Carter and it will make a ton of money if done right. They pretty much got exactly what they thought they would when they submitted that script and released the movie at THAT time. It still has potential to make 50-60 million or more in profit once DVD and rental get out there...
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All of that being said, I think there WILL be a 3rd movie. The wrap up to the mythology with a huge budget and a good script, hopefully NOT written and directed by Chris Carter and it will make a ton of money if done right. They pretty much got exactly what they thought they would when they submitted that script and released the movie at THAT time. It still has potential to make 50-60 million or more in profit once DVD and rental get out there...
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FOX will not do a third one.
They put little money and zero promotion into the sequel and threw it out at one of the busiest times of the summer with zero faith.
Unless there is a major change in management at FOX, there will not be a third sequel.
They put little money and zero promotion into the sequel and threw it out at one of the busiest times of the summer with zero faith.
Unless there is a major change in management at FOX, there will not be a third sequel.
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All of that being said, I think there WILL be a 3rd movie. The wrap up to the mythology with a huge budget and a good script, hopefully NOT written and directed by Chris Carter and it will make a ton of money if done right. They pretty much got exactly what they thought they would when they submitted that script and released the movie at THAT time. It still has potential to make 50-60 million or more in profit once DVD and rental get out there...
Chris Carter is not the problem. I think Carter probably wrote to the budget he was given. I have to wonder what Carter would have done if Fox had said "we'll give you 80 million to do what you want". I have the feeling we would have had Mulder and Scully fighting off an alien invasion. I just can't believe that this movie was Carter's "dream" resurrection of the franchise.
And when I say that "Carter is not the problem", I guess that's not meant to say he isn't obviously responsible for everyone's positive or negative feelings about this latest movie. He is. I'm just saying if Carter were handed a huge budget, it would not be in bad hands, IMO. Of course, there is no way that will ever happen. If Fox does that, I will demand a Serenity sequel if they are up to giving second chances to failed tv properties.
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I'm hoping X-FILES will be like STAR TREK to some degree, and survive this one misstep.
I was really rooting for this film, and had to sadly admit that it wasn't what it should have been. I'm still not even quite sure what the movie was about, and why it was an "X-file". It wasn't scary, it was just kind of weird and boring.
I'm still in for the 3 disc, and maybe I'll buy the single disc too, since I kinda prefer that cover art. Hopefully the support fans show for the dvd will encourage them to try it again, but this time, get a different set of show writers, (Maybe the guys who wrote the episode "Bad Blood"?) to take a crack at it. The small budget shouldn't have been a problem. It was all in the script. The humor, the electricity between Mulder and Scully...absent.
Still a fan. sigh.
I was really rooting for this film, and had to sadly admit that it wasn't what it should have been. I'm still not even quite sure what the movie was about, and why it was an "X-file". It wasn't scary, it was just kind of weird and boring.
I'm still in for the 3 disc, and maybe I'll buy the single disc too, since I kinda prefer that cover art. Hopefully the support fans show for the dvd will encourage them to try it again, but this time, get a different set of show writers, (Maybe the guys who wrote the episode "Bad Blood"?) to take a crack at it. The small budget shouldn't have been a problem. It was all in the script. The humor, the electricity between Mulder and Scully...absent.
Still a fan. sigh.
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The key words were "at THAT time". It is obvious there is almost no interest in "The X-Files" brand at this point. Maybe if Fox grabs an early 20s hot cast and opens up the "Fox Mulder School for Paranormal Investigation", then Duchovny and Anderson can be "teachers", they'll give it a shot. Otherwise, it's dead.
And then, bring David Duchovney back as Fox Mulder in the same "shadowy informant" capacity Deep Throat served in the first season back in '93.
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Well, I did buy this on Blu Ray. After watching it a second time, as much as I wanted to like this movie more, it's just very dull. Hopefully we'll see some Direct To DVD sequels.
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Interview with FOX Filmed Entertainment Chairman Tom Rothman on 14 October 2008:
IESB: X-Files, truthfully, I'm a huge X-Files fan, I was a bit disappointed with the new film. It didn't feel like an X-Files movie, but I hope to god, I know there's an idea that Chris [Carter] had about the 2012 mythology of the X-Files, the alien colonization, any chance we'll see X-Files 3?
TR: It's really up to Chris, David [Duchovny] and Gillian [Anderson].
IESB: The second one wasn't an expensive film.
TR: No, but it wasn't a matter of the money, that was the film that Chris wanted to do. He was determined to do a stand alone film, a film that wasn't dependent upon the mythology. His interest in making the movie, was in the characters and in their relationship, not the mythology.
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option...id=99IESB.net:
IESB: X-Files, truthfully, I'm a huge X-Files fan, I was a bit disappointed with the new film. It didn't feel like an X-Files movie, but I hope to god, I know there's an idea that Chris [Carter] had about the 2012 mythology of the X-Files, the alien colonization, any chance we'll see X-Files 3?
TR: It's really up to Chris, David [Duchovny] and Gillian [Anderson].
IESB: The second one wasn't an expensive film.
TR: No, but it wasn't a matter of the money, that was the film that Chris wanted to do. He was determined to do a stand alone film, a film that wasn't dependent upon the mythology. His interest in making the movie, was in the characters and in their relationship, not the mythology.
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option...id=99IESB.net:
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The key words were "at THAT time". It is obvious there is almost no interest in "The X-Files" brand at this point. Maybe if Fox grabs an early 20s hot cast and opens up the "Fox Mulder School for Paranormal Investigation", then Duchovny and Anderson can be "teachers", they'll give it a shot. Otherwise, it's dead.
Chris Carter is not the problem. I think Carter probably wrote to the budget he was given. I have to wonder what Carter would have done if Fox had said "we'll give you 80 million to do what you want". I have the feeling we would have had Mulder and Scully fighting off an alien invasion. I just can't believe that this movie was Carter's "dream" resurrection of the franchise.
And when I say that "Carter is not the problem", I guess that's not meant to say he isn't obviously responsible for everyone's positive or negative feelings about this latest movie. He is. I'm just saying if Carter were handed a huge budget, it would not be in bad hands, IMO. Of course, there is no way that will ever happen. If Fox does that, I will demand a Serenity sequel if they are up to giving second chances to failed tv properties.
Chris Carter is not the problem. I think Carter probably wrote to the budget he was given. I have to wonder what Carter would have done if Fox had said "we'll give you 80 million to do what you want". I have the feeling we would have had Mulder and Scully fighting off an alien invasion. I just can't believe that this movie was Carter's "dream" resurrection of the franchise.
And when I say that "Carter is not the problem", I guess that's not meant to say he isn't obviously responsible for everyone's positive or negative feelings about this latest movie. He is. I'm just saying if Carter were handed a huge budget, it would not be in bad hands, IMO. Of course, there is no way that will ever happen. If Fox does that, I will demand a Serenity sequel if they are up to giving second chances to failed tv properties.
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The last post? The one quoting the studio exec putting control of the movie on someone else? Yeah, what else is he going to say about a movie that wasnt really successful? Nowhere in that post does it say there is definitely going to be another film.
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i think they will do a third if it continues plot from the 1st. i think this (2nd) was the standalone and a third will cap the series off right and get rid of any bad tastes from the studios and fans. chris carter can pull it off and i think this will most definitely happen.