Technologies that don't know they're dead: DVDs
08-02-08, 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Tarantinoholic
I don't want to sound like too much of a hippie, but I think that on the cusp of us making the full transition from DVD to Blu-Ray, this is a great opportunity to throw our support behind downloaded media in a bid to do something to help out the environment..
On DVD/BR.
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08-02-08, 06:54 AM
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I am all for digital downloads, since I move an awful lot, and lugging 400 DVDs around is not fun.
But then one thing always convinces me it'll never work: DRM.
But then one thing always convinces me it'll never work: DRM.
08-02-08, 08:25 AM
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Blu-ray is overpriced technology that gives a superfine image that most people can live without. Sony is the company that had to offer replacement DVDs to consumers last year, when 25 million of its movie DVDs had a copy protection system on them that prevented playback in many DVD players, including some Sony players. My bought copy of Casino Royale woouldn't play on my computer DVD player.
SD format DVDs are good enough for most, especially when played with a good upconverting DVD player. As for downloads, with current SD DVDs, people can use the free autoGK software to convert mpeg2 DVDs to XviD data files (a time consuming process). A regular length movie can be transcoded and then burnt to a 700 Mb CD-R disc as an XviD file.
I think a lot of the talk advising you to shift to blu-ray is on par with advice from travel writers pushing vacation spots. Those travel writers would be out of work if they told you the truth all the time about beat up hotels that charge too much for rooms on noisy streets. Many newspaper movie reviewers are not much better, unwilling to let readers know that almost all movies now in release are garbage, afraid of jeopardizing their jobs, which are vanishing anyway.
My opinion is that blu-ray is great technology, if you want to pay extra for a 40 Gb BD DVD of a movie, go ahead. But for the increment in image quality, you are paying an awful lot.
SD format DVDs are good enough for most, especially when played with a good upconverting DVD player. As for downloads, with current SD DVDs, people can use the free autoGK software to convert mpeg2 DVDs to XviD data files (a time consuming process). A regular length movie can be transcoded and then burnt to a 700 Mb CD-R disc as an XviD file.
I think a lot of the talk advising you to shift to blu-ray is on par with advice from travel writers pushing vacation spots. Those travel writers would be out of work if they told you the truth all the time about beat up hotels that charge too much for rooms on noisy streets. Many newspaper movie reviewers are not much better, unwilling to let readers know that almost all movies now in release are garbage, afraid of jeopardizing their jobs, which are vanishing anyway.
My opinion is that blu-ray is great technology, if you want to pay extra for a 40 Gb BD DVD of a movie, go ahead. But for the increment in image quality, you are paying an awful lot.
08-03-08, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by gerrytwo
I think a lot of the talk advising you to shift to blu-ray is on par with advice from travel writers pushing vacation spots. Those travel writers would be out of work if they told you the truth all the time about beat up hotels that charge too much for rooms on noisy streets. Many newspaper movie reviewers are not much better, unwilling to let readers know that almost all movies now in release are garbage, afraid of jeopardizing their jobs, which are vanishing anyway.
Originally Posted by gerrytwo
My opinion is that blu-ray is great technology, if you want to pay extra for a 40 Gb BD DVD of a movie, go ahead. But for the increment in image quality, you are paying an awful lot.
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08-03-08, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gerrytwo
My opinion is that blu-ray is great technology, if you want to pay extra for a 40 Gb BD DVD of a movie, go ahead. But for the increment in image quality, you are paying an awful lot.
Wow. This is my first blu-ray player, but the difference, to me, is like night and day on a 65" DLP 1080p set.
Maybe blu-ray isn't for everyone, but it's definitely better technology than SD DVD. That's just fact.
08-03-08, 02:56 PM
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Download is already here and will continue pushing in the next few months. Xbox 360 and PS3 offer options to download/rent/purchase films and TV Shows, and NetFlix will be coming to the 360 shortly. Then we have AppleTV, Roku, VuDu etc. These little boxes are selling, and people are using them. As much as I like having an actual disc, I am very well aware they will all but be gone in the next few years. I'll enjoy my collection (as it won't explode) for a long time, but I know at some point I won't be purchasing discs anymore. Luckily I have a huge DVD, HD DVD and Blu-ray collection, so I'm OK for now.
I do plan on buying a VuDU to sit next to my AppleTV in the very near future. The amount of films/TV it has access to is amazing. Right now it has 10x more movies then what has been release on Blu-ray. $199 price cmon...
I do plan on buying a VuDU to sit next to my AppleTV in the very near future. The amount of films/TV it has access to is amazing. Right now it has 10x more movies then what has been release on Blu-ray. $199 price cmon...
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08-03-08, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Download is already here and will continue pushing in the next few months.
The book business for example has been relying on revenue from downloading for years now and it is substantially farther ahead of entertainment media. Books are still selling and so are newspapers.
Downloading will have an effect on renting but as far as owning is concerned I don't see flash-drives or any other devices that accommodate downloading/streaming being a real threat.
Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
As much as I like having an actual disc, I am very well aware they will all but be gone in the next few years.
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08-03-08, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
Downloading has been here. And it will hardly affect the current model of media distribution. If you believe that there will be a point in a near future when physical media will be replaced by streaming/downloading options then obviously you have a very unrealistic grasp on the market. Other businesses that have been substantially more flexible and easy to adjust to advanced downloading models have not been affected, I don't believe entertainment media will be the first to go in that direction.
The book business for example has been relying on revenue from downloading for years now and it is substantially farther ahead of entertainment media. Books are still selling and so are newspapers.
Downloading will have an effect on renting but as far as owning is concerned I don't see flash-drives or any other devices that accommodate downloading/streaming being a real threat.
I disagree. Obviously.
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The book business for example has been relying on revenue from downloading for years now and it is substantially farther ahead of entertainment media. Books are still selling and so are newspapers.
Downloading will have an effect on renting but as far as owning is concerned I don't see flash-drives or any other devices that accommodate downloading/streaming being a real threat.
I disagree. Obviously.
Pro-B
