Definitive WWII Documentary DVD?
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Definitive WWII Documentary DVD?
I am looking to buy myself some sort of WWII documentary. I would like to know the opinion of people on what they consider to be the definitive DVD set on WWII. I am not looking for a movie based on real events, but actual archival footage from all perspectives of the war.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
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The World at War. It was a tv show in the 70's I believe. Alot of war footage. I used to watch it all the time. I'm pretty sure it's out on dvd. As far as I know you can't get much better than that.
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Well, I'll the first in line to offer up World at War. **edit** OK, second.
Wow
It's a very comprehensive take on the subject. I'm only about third through it admittedly, but what I've liked about it so far is the authors' take by showing the most relevant components that underscored the war. I'm sure others could offer better opinions than I on the matter, but so far into it I've been very impressed.
Wow
It's a very comprehensive take on the subject. I'm only about third through it admittedly, but what I've liked about it so far is the authors' take by showing the most relevant components that underscored the war. I'm sure others could offer better opinions than I on the matter, but so far into it I've been very impressed.
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Depends upon what you want as there are many parts to the war, besides just the battles themselves, like the homefront too.
Ken Burns (The Civil War) is coming out with "The War" which is supposedly very good. I have not seen any of it yet, but I believe PBS was showing some of it, IIRC. This show more of the personal side to the war.
The BBC has World At War another excellent series that includes alot of "archival footage" from various nations' archives.
These are not cheap, but some places have good sales on them, like DD, Barnes and Noble's June B2G1 and maybe their January TV boxset B1G1 sale (these may fall into the TV (i.e. PBS) side).
Now for other "archival footage" there is www.periscopefilm.com which reportly has some good footage and also has some of their own recommended lists for WWII books and DVD's (movie and documentary). Although for some strange reason they put in things like "Talladega Nights" in the list.
But anyway, depending upon what you want, the aforementioned big boxsets would cover alot but the History Channel, etc. also has smaller sets like World War II The War in Europe and World War II The War in the Pacific - over 3 hours which include combat footage too. These retail for around $15 so you can pick them up cheap, compared to the retail of $100+ for the big boxsets.
The Pacific Theater seems to get the short stick most the time as books and videos seem to gear more toward the Europe and Russian fronts. Even books that cover the whole war, supposedly, only give the Pacific a short look. Even with Europe's D-Day, generic term for the amphibious assaults but given to and equated to June 6, 1944, the Pacific had many that were also large and IIRC larger.
So I usually try to get some Pacific side and if something book/video has alot I will usually pick it up as it probably will be good if it includes a good part with the Pacific Theater.
just my 2 pennies.
Ken Burns (The Civil War) is coming out with "The War" which is supposedly very good. I have not seen any of it yet, but I believe PBS was showing some of it, IIRC. This show more of the personal side to the war.
The BBC has World At War another excellent series that includes alot of "archival footage" from various nations' archives.
These are not cheap, but some places have good sales on them, like DD, Barnes and Noble's June B2G1 and maybe their January TV boxset B1G1 sale (these may fall into the TV (i.e. PBS) side).
Now for other "archival footage" there is www.periscopefilm.com which reportly has some good footage and also has some of their own recommended lists for WWII books and DVD's (movie and documentary). Although for some strange reason they put in things like "Talladega Nights" in the list.
But anyway, depending upon what you want, the aforementioned big boxsets would cover alot but the History Channel, etc. also has smaller sets like World War II The War in Europe and World War II The War in the Pacific - over 3 hours which include combat footage too. These retail for around $15 so you can pick them up cheap, compared to the retail of $100+ for the big boxsets.
The Pacific Theater seems to get the short stick most the time as books and videos seem to gear more toward the Europe and Russian fronts. Even books that cover the whole war, supposedly, only give the Pacific a short look. Even with Europe's D-Day, generic term for the amphibious assaults but given to and equated to June 6, 1944, the Pacific had many that were also large and IIRC larger.
So I usually try to get some Pacific side and if something book/video has alot I will usually pick it up as it probably will be good if it includes a good part with the Pacific Theater.
just my 2 pennies.
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The World at War, narrated by Sir Lawrence Olivier, is the best bar none. There are other documentaries that delve into specific subject matter (i.e. Stalingrad), but I have yet to see anything that is as comprehensive as this series.
The only other set that I have that is similarily comprehensive (at least as far as the Pacific theatre goes), is Victory at Sea.
The only other set that I have that is similarily comprehensive (at least as far as the Pacific theatre goes), is Victory at Sea.
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I agree that you really need to look no further than The World At War series. It's length and breadth means it covers all the campaigns. A lot of leading "characters" were still alive and able to be engaged in on-camera interviews. Don't neglect the bonus episodes that examine narrower subjects.
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Another vote here for World at War!
The price is great, too. DDD has it for $54.38 right now, which will *probably* mean $43.50 in November! In comparison, I spent over $100 a few years ago for an older, inferior version... but still feel that I got every penny's worth!
The price is great, too. DDD has it for $54.38 right now, which will *probably* mean $43.50 in November! In comparison, I spent over $100 a few years ago for an older, inferior version... but still feel that I got every penny's worth!
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Actually, there are new documentaries which are rather good and add more footage, a lot of it color footage. I rented something on Netflix which had to do with Auschwitz and it was rather good. Forgot the name though.
Also, funny you should mention this thread, but I was at Best Buy today and they have a 5-DVD set of WWII for $17.99. Has WWII in big letters on the front. I figured it was a cheap documentary but maybe a search on their site will show more about it. Might get it myself if it checks out.
Also, funny you should mention this thread, but I was at Best Buy today and they have a 5-DVD set of WWII for $17.99. Has WWII in big letters on the front. I figured it was a cheap documentary but maybe a search on their site will show more about it. Might get it myself if it checks out.
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Actually, there are new documentaries which are rather good and add more footage, a lot of it color footage. I rented something on Netflix which had to do with Auschwitz and it was rather good. Forgot the name though.
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These bonus features of The World At War set are not to be missed:
Secretary to Hitler (an interview with Traudl Junge, his personal secretary, who gives an eyewitness account of the collapse of the Third Reich and Hitler's last days)
Warrior
The Final Solution Parts 1 & 2 ("one of the modern ages darkest moments")
From War to Peace (an interview with historian Stephen Ambrose in which he examines the real outcome of the war...which may not be obvious)
Secretary to Hitler (an interview with Traudl Junge, his personal secretary, who gives an eyewitness account of the collapse of the Third Reich and Hitler's last days)
Warrior
The Final Solution Parts 1 & 2 ("one of the modern ages darkest moments")
From War to Peace (an interview with historian Stephen Ambrose in which he examines the real outcome of the war...which may not be obvious)
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I think I'll pick up World at War on the November DDD sale. Is it slim, digipak, or regular cases?
"Down this road, on a summer day in 1944, the soldiers came. Nobody lives here now. They stayed only a few hours. When they had gone, a community which had lived for a thousand years was dead." -Sir Lawrence Olivier
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I think I'll pick up World at War on the November DDD sale. Is it slim, digipak, or regular cases?
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Another vote for The World at War. It's on sale at Amazon right now for $54.49, and is worth every penny (I paid around $100 when it was first released several years ago -- and it was still worth every penny).
The 12-disc BBC collection is also very nice, but it is just that, a collection of programs about various aspects of WWII (famous battles, the Nazis, Auschwitz, etc.). The World at War is a 26-part series that covers the war from the early 1930s to the aftermath in the mid-1940s.
And even though Ken Burns' "The War" hasn't premiered yet, I'm hesitant to recommend it as a definitive WWII documentary since it is essentially the American view on the war. Also, based on the DVD case, it covers only 1941 - 1945, the years of America's involvement -- I guess everything that happened from Sept. 1939 to Nov. 1941 doesn't count!
The 12-disc BBC collection is also very nice, but it is just that, a collection of programs about various aspects of WWII (famous battles, the Nazis, Auschwitz, etc.). The World at War is a 26-part series that covers the war from the early 1930s to the aftermath in the mid-1940s.
And even though Ken Burns' "The War" hasn't premiered yet, I'm hesitant to recommend it as a definitive WWII documentary since it is essentially the American view on the war. Also, based on the DVD case, it covers only 1941 - 1945, the years of America's involvement -- I guess everything that happened from Sept. 1939 to Nov. 1941 doesn't count!
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The World at War is beyond amazing. Nothing else needs not be mentioned in this thread. It's in slimcases.
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The original DVD release was from HBO Home Video and contained 5 double-sided DVDs in snapcases.
The second release, from A&E, contains 11 DVDs in slimcases.
There are a few small differences between the two sets:
* Episode intros (about 1-2 minutes each) by Sir Jeremy Isaacs on HBO version only
* WWII timeline on HBO version only (at least I think I remember seeing it there!)
* New 2-hour 30th anniversary documentary/discussion with Sir Jeremy Isaacs and others about the making of the series on A&E version only (Disc 11)
* New 1-hour compilation of extended interviews from the series on A&E version only (Disc 11)
The second release, from A&E, contains 11 DVDs in slimcases.
There are a few small differences between the two sets:
* Episode intros (about 1-2 minutes each) by Sir Jeremy Isaacs on HBO version only
* WWII timeline on HBO version only (at least I think I remember seeing it there!)
* New 2-hour 30th anniversary documentary/discussion with Sir Jeremy Isaacs and others about the making of the series on A&E version only (Disc 11)
* New 1-hour compilation of extended interviews from the series on A&E version only (Disc 11)
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Originally Posted by diditagain
The original DVD release was from HBO Home Video and contained 5 double-sided DVDs in snapcases.
The second release, from A&E, contains 11 DVDs in slimcases.
There are a few small differences between the two sets:
* WWII timeline on HBO version only (at least I think I remember seeing it there!)
The second release, from A&E, contains 11 DVDs in slimcases.
There are a few small differences between the two sets:
* WWII timeline on HBO version only (at least I think I remember seeing it there!)
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CNN: Ken Burns brings another war home
During 15 hours over seven nights, Ken Burns' much-awaited documentary immerses us in World War II.
The enormity of that war -- which placed the world's future in doubt while claiming at least 50 million lives -- is something most of us take for granted, even with it shrinking in the rearview mirror of our collective consciousness.
But Burns' "The War" means to restore it to the here-and-now, for us to see with new eyes. And he does it in a way that, by now, many viewers expect, even count on: By giving it the Ken Burns treatment.
Story-driven and deliberate, yet lyric. Sweeping in scope but highly personal. Very, very long. These are words applied to his past miniseries, huge-topic films like "Jazz," "The West," "Baseball" and "The Civil War."
The same adjectives fit "The War," which interweaves the European and Pacific conflicts, braided with the war experience here at home. (Co-produced and co-directed by Burns and Lynn Novick, it airs on PBS Sunday through Wednesday, then September 30 to October 2, at 8 p.m. EDT; check local listings.)
"The War" has been in the works since 2000. Burns began it before 9/11 and, thus, before the Iraq War, which has given his film bleak, unanticipated currency.
How did he begin such a mission?
"Intimately, always," he says.
As he explains in a recent interview, the first step was choosing four American towns to draw from: Mobile, Alabama; Sacramento, California; Waterbury, Connecticut; and the tiny farming community of Luverne, Minnesota.
"We picked them, more or less randomly, then went to those towns and learned everything we could about them and the people who lived there," Burns says. "With the home front, we could anchor not only the emotional experience, but also the chronological experience, of the war."
Early in Sunday's episode, "A Necessary War," the narrator intones: "The Second World War brought out the best and the worst in a generation, and blurred the two so that they became, at times, almost indistinguishable."
With that proviso, the terms are set for what follows. "The War" is a towering tribute. But the war Burns marshals us through is necessary -- not, as some might prefer to think, "good." This film, however big-hearted, is no sentimental journey.
True to his plan, Burns begins his massive saga almost microscopically -- with Glenn Frazier, who was a 16-year-old Alabama lad in 1941.
With obvious wonder, Burns, 54, fast-forwards through Frazier's war years for a reporter: "His girlfriend since the first grade says, 'Well, I like you as a friend, but....' Then, upset, he busts up a bar. Then, the next day, he volunteers for the Army, and he's sent to the Philippines, where he's in the Bataan Death March, and then digging his grave for his imminent death, and then a POW in Japan for years. And then, the next moment, he's home.
"The whole war," says Burns, "is contained within the arc of his experience."
Six decades later, Glenn Frazier (along with some 40 more witnesses) is on the screen to tell us about it.
We will encounter many other things, of course. The historical footage and photos; the war sounds and the lush musical score; the evocative narration. But the people Burns has interviewed give "The War" its immediacy -- and reaching them in time only heightened the urgency for him to make his film.
A thousand veterans are dying each day, says Burns. "In a few more years, they will be gone. Then the Second World War will be the province of historians, who, however well, will nonetheless be abstracting it."
The four towns (and the stories their citizens tell) provide the driving force of "The War." That's what defines it, regardless of who these witnesses are.
Even so, Burns was criticized some months ago for overlooking the role of Hispanics who fought in the war. He calls the uproar "a very difficult and challenging circumstance," and it resulted in his adding 30 minutes of material as codas to chapters 1, 5 and 6 that tell of two Hispanic veterans, as well as an American Indian who, in battle, drew on his own tribe's warrior tradition.
Burns is pleased to add these stories, he insists, while noting, "We don't have a German-American family. We don't have French-Americans, or an Irishman," among many groups he mentions that aren't singled out. "We didn't tell LOTS of stories!"
But the film tells a collective story that unfolds grandly, horribly, painfully, proudly. It exposes the gaping divide between that era and the current day, while mounting a mighty effort to bridge it.
By the end, those who watch "The War" may find they share a bit of what the man who made it feels.
"This," says Burns, "is the first film that I haven't wanted to let go of."
The enormity of that war -- which placed the world's future in doubt while claiming at least 50 million lives -- is something most of us take for granted, even with it shrinking in the rearview mirror of our collective consciousness.
But Burns' "The War" means to restore it to the here-and-now, for us to see with new eyes. And he does it in a way that, by now, many viewers expect, even count on: By giving it the Ken Burns treatment.
Story-driven and deliberate, yet lyric. Sweeping in scope but highly personal. Very, very long. These are words applied to his past miniseries, huge-topic films like "Jazz," "The West," "Baseball" and "The Civil War."
The same adjectives fit "The War," which interweaves the European and Pacific conflicts, braided with the war experience here at home. (Co-produced and co-directed by Burns and Lynn Novick, it airs on PBS Sunday through Wednesday, then September 30 to October 2, at 8 p.m. EDT; check local listings.)
"The War" has been in the works since 2000. Burns began it before 9/11 and, thus, before the Iraq War, which has given his film bleak, unanticipated currency.
How did he begin such a mission?
"Intimately, always," he says.
As he explains in a recent interview, the first step was choosing four American towns to draw from: Mobile, Alabama; Sacramento, California; Waterbury, Connecticut; and the tiny farming community of Luverne, Minnesota.
"We picked them, more or less randomly, then went to those towns and learned everything we could about them and the people who lived there," Burns says. "With the home front, we could anchor not only the emotional experience, but also the chronological experience, of the war."
Early in Sunday's episode, "A Necessary War," the narrator intones: "The Second World War brought out the best and the worst in a generation, and blurred the two so that they became, at times, almost indistinguishable."
With that proviso, the terms are set for what follows. "The War" is a towering tribute. But the war Burns marshals us through is necessary -- not, as some might prefer to think, "good." This film, however big-hearted, is no sentimental journey.
True to his plan, Burns begins his massive saga almost microscopically -- with Glenn Frazier, who was a 16-year-old Alabama lad in 1941.
With obvious wonder, Burns, 54, fast-forwards through Frazier's war years for a reporter: "His girlfriend since the first grade says, 'Well, I like you as a friend, but....' Then, upset, he busts up a bar. Then, the next day, he volunteers for the Army, and he's sent to the Philippines, where he's in the Bataan Death March, and then digging his grave for his imminent death, and then a POW in Japan for years. And then, the next moment, he's home.
"The whole war," says Burns, "is contained within the arc of his experience."
Six decades later, Glenn Frazier (along with some 40 more witnesses) is on the screen to tell us about it.
We will encounter many other things, of course. The historical footage and photos; the war sounds and the lush musical score; the evocative narration. But the people Burns has interviewed give "The War" its immediacy -- and reaching them in time only heightened the urgency for him to make his film.
A thousand veterans are dying each day, says Burns. "In a few more years, they will be gone. Then the Second World War will be the province of historians, who, however well, will nonetheless be abstracting it."
The four towns (and the stories their citizens tell) provide the driving force of "The War." That's what defines it, regardless of who these witnesses are.
Even so, Burns was criticized some months ago for overlooking the role of Hispanics who fought in the war. He calls the uproar "a very difficult and challenging circumstance," and it resulted in his adding 30 minutes of material as codas to chapters 1, 5 and 6 that tell of two Hispanic veterans, as well as an American Indian who, in battle, drew on his own tribe's warrior tradition.
Burns is pleased to add these stories, he insists, while noting, "We don't have a German-American family. We don't have French-Americans, or an Irishman," among many groups he mentions that aren't singled out. "We didn't tell LOTS of stories!"
But the film tells a collective story that unfolds grandly, horribly, painfully, proudly. It exposes the gaping divide between that era and the current day, while mounting a mighty effort to bridge it.
By the end, those who watch "The War" may find they share a bit of what the man who made it feels.
"This," says Burns, "is the first film that I haven't wanted to let go of."
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BBC History of World War II
I agree with all the praise for the World At War series, but must also highly recommend the BBC History of World War II series, as well This is a close second best. Both thorough in their scope, and remarkable in their detailed historical accuracy and breadth.
Here is a good Amazon link for the BBC series:
http://www.amazon.com/BBC-History-World-War-II/dp/B0009941E8
I'll be purchasing both.
Here is a good Amazon link for the BBC series:
http://www.amazon.com/BBC-History-World-War-II/dp/B0009941E8
I'll be purchasing both.
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Originally Posted by Hypnotised
I agree with all the praise for the World At War series, but must also highly recommend the BBC History of World War II series, as well This is a close second best. Both thorough in their scope, and remarkable in their detailed historical accuracy and breadth.
Here is a good Amazon link for the BBC series:
http://www.amazon.com/BBC-History-World-War-II/dp/B0009941E8
I'll be purchasing both.
Here is a good Amazon link for the BBC series:
http://www.amazon.com/BBC-History-World-War-II/dp/B0009941E8
I'll be purchasing both.
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