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08-16-07 | 08:15 PM
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I had just finished working in New York with legendary cinematographer John Bailey on Paul Schrader’s film Mishima...
08-16-07 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dyevin
bump for a link to the criterion blog and lee kline on working on days of heaven:
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08-16-07 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by slop101
Um, so does that mean Cirterion's going to be putting out Mishima?
09-06-07 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Bus
Great read, and the context in which they mention DVD Beaver at the end made me chuckle.
(Way to go, Gary - you've got CC anxiously anticipating your comparisons!)
But it is a fascinating read, and I wonder what the consensus will be? I'm not one of the hardcore fans of this film, but I definitely identify that "warm, glowy" look with it. It'll be something to see whether the more natural color timing is preferred. The key sections about the transfer and new color timing are below (but read it all):
Striking Gold
August 15, 2007
...At first Terry said to simply match the existing transfer because he’d always liked it. I pleaded with him that this new transfer would be the definitive one and that it was really important to have him in the room with us when we color corrected it. He finally agreed, and a date was chosen to do the work in L.A.
...When Terry initially came into the room, we had done a general color correction pass on most of the film, using the old transfer as a guide. Before he arrived, I wasn’t sure how hands-on he was going to be with the color. As soon as he sat down, though, Terry made it clear that the new transfer needed to feel natural and not too “postcardlike.” We weren’t allowed to use words like golden or warm. The natural beauty of the land needed to be represented, since that was what they were going for when shooting. When we first started to take out the gold and the warmth, it was heading toward a really different place from the previous transfer. Not bad, mind you, just different and definitely more natural. I would sometimes joke in the room that such and such a shot was pretty, and then I would say to Terry, “But not too pretty!” We’d all laugh. DVD producer Kim Hendrickson was also with us one afternoon, and when she started to say out loud how pretty it was, we all turned in our chairs to cut her off and simultaneously say, “Shhh!” After three days of Terry, Billy, and John’s expertise, we were finished. It looked beautiful, but boy, was it different. I told Terry that people were really going to be pretty surprised by this new transfer, since it was such a radical departure from before, but he said it was perfect....
August 15, 2007
...At first Terry said to simply match the existing transfer because he’d always liked it. I pleaded with him that this new transfer would be the definitive one and that it was really important to have him in the room with us when we color corrected it. He finally agreed, and a date was chosen to do the work in L.A.
...When Terry initially came into the room, we had done a general color correction pass on most of the film, using the old transfer as a guide. Before he arrived, I wasn’t sure how hands-on he was going to be with the color. As soon as he sat down, though, Terry made it clear that the new transfer needed to feel natural and not too “postcardlike.” We weren’t allowed to use words like golden or warm. The natural beauty of the land needed to be represented, since that was what they were going for when shooting. When we first started to take out the gold and the warmth, it was heading toward a really different place from the previous transfer. Not bad, mind you, just different and definitely more natural. I would sometimes joke in the room that such and such a shot was pretty, and then I would say to Terry, “But not too pretty!” We’d all laugh. DVD producer Kim Hendrickson was also with us one afternoon, and when she started to say out loud how pretty it was, we all turned in our chairs to cut her off and simultaneously say, “Shhh!” After three days of Terry, Billy, and John’s expertise, we were finished. It looked beautiful, but boy, was it different. I told Terry that people were really going to be pretty surprised by this new transfer, since it was such a radical departure from before, but he said it was perfect....
10-22-07 | 01:09 PM
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Did anyone read the review of Breathless? It seems Criterion went with a windowboxed presentation on the 1.33 AR to "overcompensate for different monitor sizes". Wonder what that is all about...
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10-22-07 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jmj713
Breathless is a must.
10-22-07 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by hanshotfirst113
Absolutely; a Criterion edition of that film is dream come true
10-22-07 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tofferman
I don't recall seeing Days of Heaven before, but love the way Terrence Malick filmed The New World. Would Days of Heaven be considered a good blind buy?
If you can, rent it or borrow from a friend before you decide to make a purchase.
10-22-07 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by hanshotfirst113
Absolutely; a Criterion edition of that film is dream come true, especially since they got it out of the clutches of Fox Lorber.
Also has the Genius Entertainment logo on the back, so you can add that to the list of studios they get films from.
10-22-07 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Bus
Great read, and the context in which they mention DVD Beaver at the end made me chuckle.
Depends on how heavily pretty imagery weighs on your enjoyment of a movie. Heaven is undeniably gorgeous, and I liked Ennio Morricone's lovely, understated score, but that is really all it has going for it. The acting, story and dialogue are all quite...minimalist (and I'm being generous when I say that).
If you can, rent it or borrow from a friend before you decide to make a purchase.
If you can, rent it or borrow from a friend before you decide to make a purchase.
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10-22-07 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k
Did anyone read the review of Breathless? It seems Criterion went with a windowboxed presentation on the 1.33 AR to "overcompensate for different monitor sizes". Wonder what that is all about...
10-22-07 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by domino harvey
All fullscreen Criterion releases for almost two years now have been windowboxed, this is not news.
10-23-07 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tofferman
I don't recall seeing Days of Heaven before, but love the way Terrence Malick filmed The New World. Would Days of Heaven be considered a good blind buy?
10-23-07 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
It may be blasphemy to some but I think The New World is a lot better than Days of Heaven. The New World has better music, better cinematography, and a better story.
10-23-07 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
It may be blasphemy to some but I think The New World is a lot better than Days of Heaven. The New World has better music, better cinematography, and a better story. I think Malick is a director that will only get better with each movie he creates. If only he would make more.
About the comment stating that Malick may be an acquired taste: like a lot of things, I think it depends on the individual. If you pretty much only enjoy "popcorn entertainment," you might find him less than thrilling. (Note: This is not a slam on popcorn entertainment, as I like plenty of films that fall into that category).
I am a relative newcomer to his films (knew about them, just never really watched them), and I liked Days of Heaven immediately, on first viewing. I then got a hold of The Thin Red Line and liked it even more than DOH.
I've only seen parts of Badlands, so I won't comment on that one until I get to see it straight through from beginning to end.
