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Old 07-15-07 | 08:44 PM
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I have both the criterion and trilogy, that will be enough for me
Old 07-16-07 | 09:18 AM
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I'm curious to know what the X-rated version of Robocop entails.
Old 07-16-07 | 09:19 AM
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I'm curious to know what the X-rated version of Robocop entails.
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Old 07-16-07 | 10:30 AM
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I'm curious to know what the X-rated version of Robocop entails.
Probably would get an R today.
Old 07-16-07 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Probably would get an R today.
the bullet riddling of the executive - I kind of doubt - massive amounts of spurting blood still makes the MPAA board scream foul.
Old 07-16-07 | 10:46 AM
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Probably would get an R today
I think so as well, considering Grindhouse and Hostel I and II passed the MPAA seemingly intact. I was watching "Starship Troopers" last night (this thread managed to get Verhoven on my mind something fierce), and even that film had more than a few moments that easily topped what had to be snipped out of Robocop to secure the R.

I have the Criterion and the Trilogy too, so I'm passing on the steelbook as well. Still, looks like a great release.
Old 07-16-07 | 10:54 AM
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I was never able to get the Criterion DVD because in Canada the average price I've seen them for (not including the all-too easy to find titles like "Chasing Amy") is about $60 and up. That's a TV-DVD set price right there. No thanks. Of course, RoboCop isn't available anywhere because it's out of print, but the cost of it at the time matches Criterions found today, that I've seen in stores.
Old 07-16-07 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Forrester
I think so as well, considering Grindhouse and Hostel I and II passed the MPAA seemingly intact. I was watching "Starship Troopers" last night (this thread managed to get Verhoven on my mind something fierce), and even that film had more than a few moments that easily topped what had to be snipped out of Robocop to secure the R.

I have the Criterion and the Trilogy too, so I'm passing on the steelbook as well. Still, looks like a great release.
even 'Starship Troopers' was shorn one scene for it's R-rating... when one of the soldiers loses half his head to a flying bug.

I'd love to see a fully uncensored cut of 'Total Recall' (the escalator human body shield scene, the stomach slitting) but I think those scenes are gone forever.
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Old 07-16-07 | 01:57 PM
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All I have is the Criterion. I'll be picking this up, it'll be nice to get another steelbook.
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Yup, for all of us with Criterion and Trilogy - there's really no need for this.
Old 07-16-07 | 02:33 PM
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I'd love to see a fully uncensored cut of 'Total Recall' (the escalator human body shield scene, the stomach slitting) but I think those scenes are gone forever.
Same here. When I rewatched this last year you could easily tell stuff was edited, and I want to see it badly.

But this new RoboCop DVD? Mine. As soon as I saw the steelbook art I put my Criterion on eBay, and this is one of the few titles that I would rebuy per diem (this will be my third after the Criterion and the trilogy). I'll buy this for 15 dollars!
Old 07-16-07 | 10:49 PM
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So this new release will be the same as the R rated version in the trilogy.
Old 07-16-07 | 11:35 PM
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All I have is the Criterion. I'll be picking this up, it'll be nice to get another steelbook.
Me too.
Old 07-16-07 | 11:55 PM
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Ok, QUESTION over here.

The link that compares the bit rates. If you set destination master to accept, say at 8bits constant (CBR), how in the hell would you know if the bit rate by itself is better than the other releases? Because what you're doing, is "masking" the actual bit rate in another bit rate. So, are you actually getting more quality video per second, or is it just hyped in the inflated bit rate.

I don't have this movie at all, so I'm just curious. Is the Criterion actually better or are people just justifying their purchases. From the link provided, it looks like the Criterion is washed out and way too bright--I'll let my TV adjustments do that, thanks.
Old 07-17-07 | 12:20 AM
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I'd buy that for a dollar.

I have the criterion, i might have to look into this new verson too.
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Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
Ok, QUESTION over here.

The link that compares the bit rates. If you set destination master to accept, say at 8bits constant (CBR), how in the hell would you know if the bit rate by itself is better than the other releases? Because what you're doing, is "masking" the actual bit rate in another bit rate. So, are you actually getting more quality video per second, or is it just hyped in the inflated bit rate.

I don't have this movie at all, so I'm just curious. Is the Criterion actually better or are people just justifying their purchases. From the link provided, it looks like the Criterion is washed out and way too bright--I'll let my TV adjustments do that, thanks.
I don't think anyone in this thread stated that the Criterion was better. I paid about $40 for the Criterion and will happily pay $15 for the new better version. I'm certainly not going to try and justify my purchase.
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So this new release will be the same as the R rated version in the trilogy.
Yes, if the R-rated version also includes the X-rated version.
Old 07-17-07 | 12:26 PM
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I'm confused. How many cuts exist? 2 or 3?
Old 07-17-07 | 12:28 PM
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I'm confused. How many cuts exist? 2 or 3?
Yes.
Old 07-17-07 | 01:19 PM
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I don't think anyone in this thread stated that the Criterion was better.
Originally Posted by Josh Z
Seconded. MGM's last DVD looked like a cartoon version of the movie, with glowing orange and red flesh tones and every color absurdly oversaturated.
I think in prior Robocop DVD threads, a lot of people seem to bash MGM's transfer like above, but the samples look fine to me.

What makes it a bit stickier is that the Criterion is in 1:66:1 (Verhoeven's preferred ratio) and all the others are in 1:85:1. Plus, I believe the film's DP, Jost Vocano, approved Criterion's transfer.
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I have so many good memories of this movie. I will gladly update my Criterion for this.
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Old 07-18-07 | 12:06 PM
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So this new release will be the same as the R rated version in the trilogy.
The trilogy wasn't R rated. It was the same as the Criterion.
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I'm confused. Are there any extras new to this release?

Also, I know this release will feature both cuts of the movie. Are either transfers different from the rated (standalone) and unrated (trilogy release) transfers already released by MGM?

I am desperately looking for a reason (besides the cool steel-case) to buy this rerelease. Oh, and I already have the Criterion also.


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