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Wildo1966 03-30-07 07:59 AM

I was just pulled over to the Dark Side!
 
Well, after collecting dvds since day one I finally went over to the dark side...A friend of the family loaned me Blood Diamond....FULL SCREEN!!! How can people live on the dark side?? This is horrible, I need help!

riotinmyskull 03-30-07 08:23 AM

tape black bars on the top and bottom of the screen and just pretend it was filmed extremely close up

Maxflier 03-30-07 08:25 AM

I would have just handed it back to him and said no thanks, i want to watch the whole movie.

speedyray 03-30-07 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Maxflier
I would have just handed it back to him and said no thanks, i want to watch the whole movie.


Agreed, I have actually done that before. Sometimes it is a little tough, for example my brother in law brought over Borat and it was FS and I tried to be polite and watch it with him and my wife and I just kept thinking how there was more to see that I was missing. I excused myself and went to bed s little ways into the movie (I had to go to work early the next morning so it was a real excuse, but I might have stayed up for a WS version). Imagine how I would have felt if it was a movie where it might actually matter. If someone offers to let me borrow a FS movie I just decline it though.

Groucho 03-30-07 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Maxflier
I would have just handed it back to him and said no thanks, i want to watch the whole movie.

The Departed was shot on Super-35, so it's not conventional pan and scan.

Really, pan and scan is a thing of the past and pretty much every movie is shot with both theatrical and 4:3 presentations in mind.

madcougar 03-30-07 10:40 AM

This happened to me with a neighbor. I spit in his face, shat in his living room and left. The next day I torched his freakin' car too. That will show him.

starman9000 03-30-07 10:54 AM

I prefer fullscreen. On my regular TV you actually get more picture with those dvds, I even measured just to makes sure, it was definately a taller image.

kaze0 03-30-07 11:21 AM

Widescreen is much more pleasing to the eyes. Draw a box around your eyes, the shape is more like a widescreen tv than a normal one.

canaryfarmer 03-30-07 11:24 AM

Dammit Kaze0, why didn't you mention not to use a sharpie marker?!!

BuckNaked2k 03-30-07 11:28 AM

You know, I really can't believe they even make these any more. I mean, Blockbuster and Netflix don't stock them, you'd think by now people would know better.

I remember the days of going into the store and checking carefully to make sure I bought the correct version. I've become lax, just assuming it's all Widescreen nowadays...but I was in some store t'other day looking at some new DVDs, and there it was: "FULLSCREEN VERSION" !!!

I though whoooooah! and put it back quickly......The Horror......The Horror.....

Peep 03-30-07 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k
You know, I really can't believe they even make these any more. I mean, Blockbuster and Netflix don't stock them, you'd think by now people would know better.

It really bugs me that Blockbuster doesn't carry the FS version of "Cars". We have a standard TV and I know my 4-year olds would enjoy it more if it were FS. I've been holding off on buying it (waiting for Blu-Ray), but I may actually purchase it in FS.

Josh Z 03-30-07 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Groucho
The Departed was shot on Super-35, so it's not conventional pan and scan.

That's nice, but we're talking about Blood Diamond, which was shot with "scope" anamorphic lenses.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450259/technical


Really, pan and scan is a thing of the past and pretty much every movie is shot with both theatrical and 4:3 presentations in mind.
Not at all true.

majorjoe23 03-30-07 12:00 PM

Hmm, this is one of those cases where even I'm not sure if Groucho was joking.

Luther Heggs 03-30-07 12:33 PM

Much in the way Banksy lost his audience when he painted that poor innocent elephant, Groucho has now lost his with his tacit approval of full-frame DVDs.

BuckNaked2k 03-30-07 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Peep
It really bugs me that Blockbuster doesn't carry the FS version of "Cars". We have a standard TV and I know my 4-year olds would enjoy it more if it were FS. I've been holding off on buying it (waiting for Blu-Ray), but I may actually purchase it in FS.

That movie is all digital, and visually striking. Why deprive yourself (or the young 'uns) of the full picture?

shumway 03-30-07 02:43 PM

I pray that with their new push to spread HDTV to the masses, Wal-Mart will stop pushing P&S/Full screen for all of the cheaper catalogue titles in their stores.

Egon's Ghost 03-30-07 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Peep
my 4-year olds would enjoy it more if it were FS.

Why?

Dr. Henry Jones, Jr. 03-30-07 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by starman9000
I prefer fullscreen. On my regular TV you actually get more picture with those dvds, I even measured just to makes sure, it was definately a taller image.

how is that

madcougar 03-30-07 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by shumway
I pray that with their new push to spread HDTV to the masses, Wal-Mart will stop pushing P&S/Full screen for all of the cheaper catalogue titles in their stores.

I also pray that they'll start carrying Rubbermaid products. In fact I burn a candle in my home altar to the Virgin of Guadalupe for this. I'll start praying for them to stop this nonsense. Oh, and no abortion either.


Originally Posted by Egon's Ghost
Why?

My guess is because they're kids and are annoyed by the black bars, have no concept about how widescreen works, and haven't become hyper anal about this. Peep, am I right?

Josh Z 03-30-07 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by madcougar
My guess is because they're kids and are annoyed by the black bars, have no concept about how widescreen works, and haven't become hyper anal about this. Peep, am I right?

Doubtful. Kids are usually much more flexible and open-minded about these things than adults. If they grow up always seeing letterboxing, they don't question it at all. That's just the way "movies" look, as opposed to "TV shows".

It's only when someone is raised to adulthood watching pan-and-scan movies that they become rigid and inflexible, believing a filled TV screen is their god given right.

Groucho 03-30-07 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Luther Heggs
Much in the way Banksy lost his audience when he painted that poor innocent elephant, Groucho has now lost his with his tacit approval of full-frame DVDs.

I'm not approving full-frame DVDs, I'm just pointing out that just because you're watching the full-frame version doesn't mean you're only getting part of the picture. I'm all for OAR presentation, but I'm not going to mislead people in order to get them to "convert".

Of course, I wouldn't have posted at all if I hadn't gotten my Leo movies mixed up. :lol:

Egon's Ghost 03-30-07 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by madcougar
I also pray that they'll start carrying Rubbermaid products. In fact I burn a candle in my home altar to the Virgin of Guadalupe for this. I'll start praying for them to stop this nonsense. Oh, and no abortion either.



My guess is because they're kids and are annoyed by the black bars, have no concept about how widescreen works, and haven't become hyper anal about this. Peep, am I right?

They are 4 years old. Why would they notice and/or care? Well, I'll see in 4 years.

LoPan5705 03-30-07 03:14 PM

I've noticed before that gamestop used FS costs alittle more than the WS counterpart on certain dvds. My guess is that you don't see the FS version of some movies as often Used. I asked why FS costs more and my answer was "It's more of a luxury." I laughed all the way home.

drainout 03-30-07 03:16 PM

My friend came up with a theory that anyone that wants to buy Full Screen, has to sit and watch that little documentary piece with Martin Scorsece where he shows clips from Ben-Hur and Seven Brides for Seven Brothers. Then, if they still want the Full Sceen, they have to sign a wavier of stupidity.

Also, once I put Spaceballs in the wrong way, and couldn't figure out why the movie looked so messed up, it took me 30 minuted to realize it's on full. I felt dumb.

DoubleDownAgain 03-30-07 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by drainout
Also, once I put Spaceballs in the wrong way, and couldn't figure out why the movie looked so messed up, it took me 30 minuted to realize it's on full. I felt dumb.

Well, you sound like a Major Asshole! :lol:

cultshock 03-30-07 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by Josh Z
That's nice, but we're talking about Blood Diamond, which was shot with "scope" anamorphic lenses.

It's hard for Groucho to keep track of trivial matters like movie titles and such when dreamy Leo is on the screen.

drainout 03-30-07 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by DoubleDownAgain
Well, you sound like a Major Asshole! :lol:

Nice, good call.

GoldenJCJ 03-30-07 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Peep
It really bugs me that Blockbuster doesn't carry the FS version of "Cars". We have a standard TV and I know my 4-year olds would enjoy it more if it were FS. I've been holding off on buying it (waiting for Blu-Ray), but I may actually purchase it in FS.

I'm willing to bet that if they see that Dad (or Mom) likes it widescreen, they'll like it widescreen as well. Hell, if a parent can teach a kid racism, they can teach them to appreciate widescreen.

They're impressional minds, impress them...

Peep 03-30-07 06:29 PM

Well, as said before, many directors film (animate) with an eye towards both formats, so I can't really tell my kids that the FS version doesn't represent the director's wishes.

And all they really care about is seeing McQueen as big as possible. :)

Lee Harvey Oswald 03-30-07 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by drainout
Also, once I put Spaceballs in the wrong way, and couldn't figure out why the movie looked so messed up, it took me 30 minuted to realize it's on full. I felt dumb.

And that's why evil always prevails over good...because good is dumb.

I was just thinking the other day...what happened to all the wisescreen vs foolscreen posts that would appear about once a week in this forum when I first started lurking here a few years ago.

I was even going to check the forum rules to see if these topics were banned. :lol:

DeputyDave 03-30-07 08:51 PM

If it's a movie I'm buying (i.e. care about) or a "serious" movie, I insist on only getting and seeing the widescreen (or true) version. If its some movie I don't really care about and will only watch if its a free rental (most modern comedies, like I watched "Date Movie" out of morbid curiosity) It doesn't bother me so much. I could give a damn what original "vision" the director of Scary Movie 4 had. Most of these movies I only pay half attention to, anyway.

Do I wish that full screen would go away (unless it was intended that way)? Yes, but I put up with it in certain cases.

BTW, in regards to Blood Diamond, I wouldn't watch it in full screen at all.

nateman 03-30-07 09:30 PM


tape black bars on the top and bottom of the screen and just pretend it was filmed extremely close up
:lol:
Whats Full Screen? jk.
being that alot of tv on dvd sets are in full screen im used to it but i do still prefer widescreen, on movies & new tv shows.
imagine watching 1970's sitcoms in widescreen, with black bars on the top & bottom. that would look crazy!
we did get to see the 7th season of 'the golden girls' in widescreen, well not so much but there were tiny black bars on the top & bottom!

madcougar 03-31-07 12:26 AM


Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
I'm willing to bet that if they see that Dad (or Mom) likes it widescreen, they'll like it widescreen as well. Hell, if a parent can teach a kid racism, they can teach them to appreciate widescreen.

They're impressional minds, impress them...

Seriously, I'm trying to teach my kids to be decent human beings and preparing them for life. Teaching them to appreciate widescreen is not even on the radar.

drainout 03-31-07 12:36 AM

The worst full screen story, was that I never bought the old dvd of the Sting, because I could only ever find Full screen, then when I realized it was filmed that way to match the 'old style' it was already out of print. Now the new dvd is out, were they turned it widescreen to match what people want. What's worse, turning widescreen intended movies full screen for a tv set, or turning full screen movies wide, to attract uneducated film buffs?

Abe. 03-31-07 01:04 AM


Originally Posted by speedyray
Agreed, I have actually done that before. Sometimes it is a little tough, for example my brother in law brought over Borat and it was FS and I tried to be polite and watch it with him and my wife and I just kept thinking how there was more to see that I was missing. I excused myself and went to bed s little ways into the movie (I had to go to work early the next morning so it was a real excuse, but I might have stayed up for a WS version). Imagine how I would have felt if it was a movie where it might actually matter. If someone offers to let me borrow a FS movie I just decline it though.


I don't think there would be that much of a difference between a FS and WS version of Borat. It all depends if you're watching it on a HDTV. If anything, that movie might have been shot open-matte, and then letterboxed for theatrical screening.

Fok 03-31-07 01:59 AM

That is why you fail :p

Josh Z 03-31-07 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by drainout
The worst full screen story, was that I never bought the old dvd of the Sting, because I could only ever find Full screen, then when I realized it was filmed that way to match the 'old style' it was already out of print. Now the new dvd is out, were they turned it widescreen to match what people want. What's worse, turning widescreen intended movies full screen for a tv set, or turning full screen movies wide, to attract uneducated film buffs?

The Sting was released in 1973, long after the theatrical standard for "flat" photography motion pictures had shifted to 1.85:1. Even if George Roy Hill had wanted his movie projected in 4:3, there would have been few theatrical venues that could accomodate it. Aside from art theaters specifically equipped to project classic Academy Ratio movies, the majority of theaters in this country couldn't show a movie in 4:3 without matting if they wanted to.

These days, specialty 4:3 releases such as The Blair Witch Project, documentaries, or re-releases of classic movies have to be printed in windowbox format on the theatrical prints so that they can be projected on 1.85:1 screens with black bars on the sides. But that simply wasn't ever done back in 1973. Even revivals of classics like Gone With the Wind were cropped to 1.85:1 at that time.

Hill shot The Sting knowing it would be projected at 1.85:1. That is its OAR.

BobSchlapowitz 03-31-07 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by shumway
I pray that with their new push to spread HDTV to the masses, Wal-Mart will stop pushing P&S/Full screen for all of the cheaper catalogue titles in their stores.

Doubtful my friend, real doubtful. Every time I go into my local Wal-Mart they're showing fool screen dvds on the widescreen HDTVs, which is a crime against humanity if you ask me. I tried to explain the the genius working there that widescreen HDTVs are designed pretty much with widescreen DVDs in mind but he looked at me like I was speaking Swahili.

Shazam 03-31-07 09:23 PM

I had a friend come over once with a full-screen Bruce Almighty. I had her executed.

Joe Molotov 03-31-07 10:13 PM

I had a friend come over with a full-screen copy of Scary Movie 3...and I watched it and wasn't an ass about it. OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!!


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