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DVDFreaker 04-01-07 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by nateman241
Couldn't agree more,
im sick of all these tv sets getting hack job releases. even new tv show releases have some of the music replaced which is unexcusable. I love WKRP in Cincinnati and to find out that they didn't have all the music intact & that scenes were cut out is bullshit!
this has become a trend as of late with alot of tv on dvd releases, the worst i think is the married with children, theme song being replaced.
so many shows now days are getting shit releases its unbelievable.

You have to give Married With Children some slack because they really tried to get the music rights but after they heard how much it was to retain the original theme song, they had no choice but to change the theme song

rexinnih 04-01-07 07:44 PM

Disapointing. Very disappointing.

mwbmis 04-01-07 08:13 PM

I could live with some changes, but to not even have Jennifer's doorbell...come on....

The Valeyard 04-01-07 08:46 PM

Pass!

calhoun07 04-01-07 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by mwbmis
I could live with some changes, but to not even have Jennifer's doorbell...come on....

What song was that?

If they couldn't even secure the rights to that, then I am completely convinced the people involved in the music industry are $$$$$$$$$ greedy ba$tards.

It just does not make sense to me that they demand so much for the individual songs that it means the show never gets released with them. The end result is the show gets unreleased, or released with so many cuts and edits that it pisses fans off, and the people who made the music still didn't make a dime off of it. Why can't they just lower the price asking for the songs and be happy they are getting any money off the show? It's not as if Pink Floyd, for example, is crying for money.

SIUmark 04-02-07 01:58 AM

I don't know if I will get WKRP now or not. Do current shows negotiate a deal in advance to include the music in the eventual DVD because of situations like WKRP?

Trevor 04-02-07 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by SIUmark
I don't know if I will get WKRP now or not. Do current shows negotiate a deal in advance to include the music in the eventual DVD because of situations like WKRP?

Sometimes not. My Name is Earl had music edits.

Red Dog 04-02-07 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by mwbmis
I could live with some changes, but to not even have Jennifer's doorbell...come on....


Wow. I was ready to sigh and live with it, but that is fucking ridiculous.

Pitchman 04-02-07 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by calhoun07
What song was that?

"Fly Me to the Moon."

To replace it with something generic is a real shame. Much like the furnishings and everything else about Jennifer's apartment, that doorbell song was there for a specific reason and directly added to the humor of each scene in which it was used. For the song to not be there will render various cast reactions to Jennifer's doorbell as nonsensical.

Trevor 04-02-07 02:15 PM

I will most definitely not be buying this crap official release, despite this being one of my favorite shows ever. But I think I will be getting it on DVD soon.

The Infidel 04-02-07 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Trevor
But I think I will be getting it on DVD soon.

Wouldn't be from here, would it?

ernestrp 04-02-07 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by The_Infidel
Wouldn't be from here, would it?

Somone buy this and lets us know how the quality is. I dont like boots but in this case if they are decent I might go for it.

-popcorn-

TomOpus 04-02-07 05:51 PM

As others have said, this has turned into a NO SALE. A couple songs is one thing but this is nuts.

And being a Pink Floyd fan, the "Dogs" scene is a must-have.

calhoun07 04-02-07 08:12 PM

It seems the Pink Floyd "Dogs" scene is the first, if not second, scene that came to mind when people started to discuss music changes on this show. The other would inevitably be the first song Johnny Fever chose to play on air. To change those songs, to not go the extra mile to secure them.....I just don't understand why the studio didn't stick to their guns that this was a series that would NEVER see the light of day on DVD.

I swore off buying bootlegs, but I am really contemplating that decision now.

I really think the time to start flooding Fox's phone lines to complain is NOW.
*Fox Home Entertainment Hours of Operation (PST): M-F 8AM-5PM
1-888-223-2FOX

Our phone calls got them to decide to put the MASH bonus material from the series set out as a separate release, so we gotta let our voices be heard. If we just refuse to buy the set and they see poor sales, they need to know WHY. I will be sure to let them know I would pay more for the season set with the original music and original broadcast cuts.

nateman 04-02-07 10:03 PM


You have to give Married With Children some slack because they really tried to get the music rights but after they heard how much it was to retain the original theme song, they had no choice but to change the theme song
yea i probally should because i did hear they tried pretty hard at getting 'Love & Marriage' but frank sinatra or his people were being a bunch of bitches when it came to the $ they wanted for it.

grundle 04-03-07 12:34 AM

If you think the music changes for WKRP are bad, just wait until they release the 1960s Beatles cartoons!

Boba Fett 04-03-07 01:16 AM


Originally Posted by nateman241
yea i probally should because i did hear they tried pretty hard at getting 'Love & Marriage' but frank sinatra or his people were being a bunch of bitches when it came to the $ they wanted for it.

To be honest, I didn't get too uspet about this either, because I rarely watch the opening credits on DVDs; I tried with MASH, but by Season 4, I just started skipping straight to the actual episode.

But when music is part of the narrative, and its changed, I do get upset.

Trevor 04-03-07 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by ernestrp
Somone buy this and lets us know how the quality is. I dont like boots but in this case if they are decent I might go for it.

-popcorn-

I emailed and found they are the syndicated cuts with original music intact. Not sure if the full length original airings will be available anywhere besides the official release. :(

Shannon Nutt 04-03-07 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by calhoun07
I really think the time to start flooding Fox's phone lines to complain is NOW.
*Fox Home Entertainment Hours of Operation (PST): M-F 8AM-5PM
1-888-223-2FOX

Our phone calls got them to decide to put the MASH bonus material from the series set out as a separate release, so we gotta let our voices be heard. If we just refuse to buy the set and they see poor sales, they need to know WHY. I will be sure to let them know I would pay more for the season set with the original music and original broadcast cuts.

It's a business decision by FOX. Either replace the music, sell the DVDs for $30 a pop and make a profit, or keep the music, have to sell the DVDs for $150 a pop and not make a profit (since only die-hard fans are going to fork over that kind of coin).

In cases like this, however, I do wish studios would give consumers an option and release TWO versions - the cheap, edited one and the expensive non-edited one - but again, it's an issue of the studio not making a profit after they pay for all the music rights.

So blame the music industry...don't blame (or don't put all the blame, at least) FOX.

Shannon Nutt 04-03-07 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Trevor
I emailed and found they are the syndicated cuts with original music intact. Not sure if the full length original airings will be available anywhere besides the official release. :(

The official release doesn't contain ALL of the original airings...at least two of the episodes are the syndicated versions, while others have footage cut out of them - again, mainly because of the music.

Read more here:

http://zvbxrpl.blogspot.com/2007/03/...vd-not-ok.html

rfduncan 04-03-07 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by calhoun07
If they couldn't even secure the rights to that, then I am completely convinced the people involved in the music industry are $$$$$$$$$ greedy ba$tards.

You needed convincing of this? Really? After the record companies have been trying to arrest teenagers for downloading music off the internet?

FBI Agent: "See, there is Britney Spears. She is not able to keep her Gulfstream 4. She replaced it with a smaller Gulfstream 3, that didn't have enough space for a few things she had in her Gulfstream 4. All because you decided to download her music off the internet."

calhoun07 04-03-07 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by rfduncan
You needed convincing of this? Really? After the record companies have been trying to arrest teenagers for downloading music off the internet?

FBI Agent: "See, there is Britney Spears. She is not able to keep her Gulfstream 4. She replaced it with a smaller Gulfstream 3, that didn't have enough space for a few things she had in her Gulfstream 4. All because you decided to download her music off the internet."


Illegal downloading to licensed music for a TV show are two different beasts. While I do see greed in fining their customers for downloading music (a practice I do not agree with...everybody knows you go after the pushers, not the patsies) the negotiations for TV shows takes it to a whole new level of asinine greed. To fine somebody for doing something illegal is one thing, but this feels like they are trying to penalize the studios and fans for wanting the original music in the programs.

RevKarl 04-03-07 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by nateman241
yea i probally should because i did hear they tried pretty hard at getting 'Love & Marriage' but frank sinatra or his people were being a bunch of bitches when it came to the $ they wanted for it.

In this case, it was the composers' estates, not Sinatra's, which wanted a fortune for the music rights.

tronmaster 04-03-07 08:01 PM

Ugh, to bad, Pink Floyd - Dogs, at it's in the famous Turkey episode! Did Fox try at all to get the music rights?

And this is the first season, I wonder if they will release season two or just kill this dvd series? Sigh.

Well, this goes on my "Not to Buy" list.

JIF 04-04-07 09:15 AM

I just hope they keep the Red Wigglers jingle...they're the Cadillac of worms..wee wee. :)


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