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Manzana 11-26-06 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by Fok
Hopefully they'll make the replacement process easy. At least they did it right for "A new Hope". Just had to call in and they sent a disk :)

I never heard about this. I just did a search on "star wars hope error" on DVD Talk. I found a few references to it, but no details. I don't mean to sidetrack this thread, but could someone point me to the right thread or quickly describe the Star Wars DVD error? Thanks.

Cameron 11-26-06 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Manzana
I never heard about this. I just did a search on "star wars hope error" on DVD Talk. I found a few references to it, but no details. I don't mean to sidetrack this thread, but could someone point me to the right thread or quickly describe the Star Wars DVD error? Thanks.

Fox issuing replacement discs for ANH!

alfredog1976 11-26-06 09:36 PM

Just thought I'd pass this along. My fellow DVDTalker friend spent the day trying to contact Warner Bros and spoke with a represenative:

"They told me that they are trying to figure out the mess and trying to reproduce the original disk because apperently all sets have the 2001 disks. The rep told me that this will take a lot of time to complete"

If the rep was telling the truth and not BS'ing, not good news at all for some.

Cameron 11-26-06 09:40 PM

I find it hard to believe they got anyone on the phone on a sunday

Eric F 11-26-06 10:14 PM

Considering Superman himself can now read and burn his own DVDs with microscopic/heat vision (yes, he's done both in the comics) you'd think Warner would have things on the ball...:D

ReduxGuy 11-26-06 10:36 PM

Yeah, I'll just buy the set and keep my eye out on replacement news.

rdclark 11-26-06 10:58 PM

I'm not terribly concerned. SIII would have been among the last things I watched from the set anyway, and for $50 I probably would have bought the set even if it was *supposed* to come with the 2001 SIII disc.

By the time I'm ready to watch SIII, the replacement program will undoubtedly be in place.

RichC

bookcase3 11-27-06 08:31 AM

I honestly don't know how things like this can happen from a major studio, and such a major release. Do they not have some sort of Quality Assurance check in place?

cisman 11-27-06 08:48 AM

I'll probably still get the set myself. SIII while not as bad as 4 was not my Favorite.

I'm mainly getting this for I, II (both versions) and Returns.

I don't care about watching the first one is stereo so no biggie there.

I'll probably see if they replace it and if not I'll go replace it myself when I can get the III DC cheaper.

Michael Allred 11-27-06 09:04 AM

Problem solved. Since the Supes III problem only relates to the ultimate box set and not the individual release of the film, all one has to do is buy the ultimate box set and Superman III separately and you'll have everything. Pain in the ass but that's what I'm gonna do.

GuessWho 11-27-06 09:10 AM

Paying $14 more to rebuy the individual is more than a "pain in the ass" and not "problem solved"

exharrison 11-27-06 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Eric F
Considering Superman himself can now read and burn his own DVDs with microscopic/heat vision (yes, he's done both in the comics) you'd think Warner would have things on the ball...:D

He did it to Manchester Black to give him a minor lebotomy.
\comic nerd

JasonF 11-27-06 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by GuessWho
Paying $14 more to rebuy the individual is more than a "pain in the ass" and not "problem solved"

While I agree it's not an ideal solution -- I'm going to wait for a replacement program, personally -- think about it this way: if the price on the Ultimate Collector's Edition were $14 more (but it came with the correct Superman III disc), I would still consider it a great deal.

bboisvert 11-27-06 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by TomOpus
Remember those that held out for a corrected set for Back to the Future? They had to wait a couple years while those of us who went with the replacement program was only out a few weeks. Of course this is dependent on the number of initial pressings but, IMO, it's better to be able to enjoy the other stuff in this huge set now and worry about the replacement disc when it arrives later.

Exactly. I waited for BttF, and it took 2 years and the corrected sets in stores omitted the insert pamphlet that had some cool trivia about the trilogy.

I'll go the trade-in route this time.

crs 11-27-06 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Michael Allred
Problem solved. Since the Supes III problem only relates to the ultimate box set and not the individual release of the film, all one has to do is buy the ultimate box set and Superman III separately and you'll have everything. Pain in the ass but that's what I'm gonna do.

Though the print on the disc of the individual Superman III release doesn't match the disc in the ultimate box set. All movie discs in the ultimate box set has a similarly designed print, mostly black & dark blue. The individual release has a green disc print, so it'll stick pretty well out if you put it into the set, even if you have the correct content.

I got my ultimate box set today, and Superman III was indeed the old version.

IG80Nate 11-27-06 10:44 AM

Uh gentlemen, I just read this at the "superman homepage:"

The "Superman: The Movie" problems affect the 4-disc "Superman: The Movie" release, the 8-disc "Christopher Reeve Superman Collection" and the 14-disc "Superman Ultimate Collector's Edition" DVD set. While the "Superman III" problem affects the individual "Superman III: Deluxe Edition" as well as the 8-disc and 14-disc sets.
---

So no matter which version of III you buy- it's gonna be the old one.

Or am I reading that wrong?

Rizor 11-27-06 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by IG80Nate
Uh gentlemen, I just read this at the "superman homepage:"

The "Superman: The Movie" problems affect the 4-disc "Superman: The Movie" release, the 8-disc "Christopher Reeve Superman Collection" and the 14-disc "Superman Ultimate Collector's Edition" DVD set. While the "Superman III" problem affects the individual "Superman III: Deluxe Edition" as well as the 8-disc and 14-disc sets.
---

So no matter which version of III you buy- it's gonna be the old one.

Or am I reading that wrong?

You're not reading it wrong. Superman Homepage is simply incorrect. If you noticed, the guy who posted that prefaced it with "as I understand it..." He just did not really understand it. :)

The only release affected by the Superman III error is the Ultimate Set.

The Superman: The Movie audio error affects all releases that include the film.

IG80Nate 11-27-06 11:28 AM

Can any one explain the Superman audio error to me?

I'm not an audio guy and don't pay attention to such things, really.

Just trying to figure out if it's serious enough to keep me from picking up the new version.

Help?

digitalfreaknyc 11-27-06 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by IG80Nate
Can any one explain the Superman audio error to me?

I'm not an audio guy and don't pay attention to such things, really.

Just trying to figure out if it's serious enough to keep me from picking up the new version.

Help?

Much like Jaws, they did a 5.1 remix for the DVD release and they replaced some of the effects because they didn't have the stems for them. People are pissed about the replacement.

Blips 11-27-06 11:50 AM

I was ignorant on the audio error as well until I visited this page.

http://www.supermancinema.co.uk/dail...ws/index.shtml

Scroll down to the story for Saturday the 25th and there are links to two audio samples of the differences.

After hearing them, I must admit I prefer the original mix.

I'm also saddened by many people saying the errors are no big deal. Warner Brothers screwed up period and people not caring or some saying they'll just purchase the individual release of Superman III instead of waiting shows in a financial way, which is all Warner Brothers cares about, that their mistakes don't matter.

Class316 11-27-06 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by rdclark
I'm not terribly concerned. SIII would have been among the last things I watched from the set anyway, and for $50 I probably would have bought the set even if it was *supposed* to come with the 2001 SIII disc.

By the time I'm ready to watch SIII, the replacement program will undoubtedly be in place.

RichC

How did you get it for $50?

digitalfreaknyc 11-27-06 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Class316
How did you get it for $50?

Check the bargains thread.

IG80Nate 11-27-06 12:00 PM

Thanks for the info guys, I appreciate it.

Blips, I think people DO think Warner Brothers' mistakes matter, but the thing is we've been waiting SO long for this thing that I'm guessing most people will take what they can get at this point. It sucks and it's unfair but I think people would rather take 75% of what they expected than get nothing at all. Sadly I'm one of those people- I plan to buy the set even though I now know it's flawed. My desire to see the rest of the stuff in there just overpowers my annoyance with the mistakes.

Having said that- I should mention that I very MUCH plan to follow up and pester WB for a replacement disc, etc.

I may be dumb enough to buy the wrong movie- but I'm smart enough not to take it lying down.

Blips 11-27-06 12:15 PM

I'm not saying it's dumb to buy the set, far from it. I plan on buying it too, but Warner Brothers better issue a replacement program for Superman The Movie and Superman III for those who want them. If not, they will lose my respect and I will think twice before purchasing any future WB DVDs, especially if mistakes continued to be made. Still 14 discs, exclusive docs, 2 books, and a mail-in offer for the posters is a fantastic deal.

Blips 11-27-06 12:18 PM

Also, I meant to say that people shouldn't just buy Superman III's single release to get the correct disc. Call Warner Brothers and voice your concern, don't waste about $15 of your own money for a disc you have the right to be freely given and send Warner Brothers a $15 verification that they're mistakes don't matter.


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