iamnothitler

Are they going to release the 007 films individually? I don't think released more than a handful the last time they had the boxed sets.
Thanks for any info.
LJ

Robert

NEVER. Forcing consumers to buy the expensive box sets is way more profitable than allowing them to buy the select individual movies they want.

emhello

Are you sure that average consumers are going to really drop the larger $$ for the box sets rather than the $10-15 for each one? I find it hard to believe.

Mike Adams

My take on this is that they won't do any more individual releases on standard DVD, it'll be HD-DVD or Blu-ray. Just a guess, though. Personally (as I've said before), once I finally buy "A View To A Kill" and the not-appearing-in-this-set "Never Say Never Again", I'm done with Bond... except of course every documentary I can get my hands on.

Snowmaker

What's the point of even producing/buying the sets then if it won't give you every Bond film?

I have my single Goldeneye DVD, that's the only 007 film I've always loved enough to own.

Sean O'Hara

NSNA isn't part of the official Bond franchise, and isn't owned by MGM.

The story behind NSNA is rather complicated and involves lots of lawyers, but what it comes down to is that the movie rights for Thunderball belong to a third party. Saltzman/Broccoli were able to negotiate a deal to make Thunderball back in the '60s, but they didn't gain permanent rights to the book. Then in the early '80s, the rights-owners decided to make their own version of the novel under the title Never Say Never Again. They pulled off two major coups -- getting Connery to return as Bond, and getting their film in theaters a few months before Octopussy. Amazingly both movies proved successful at the box office.

I believe NSNA is now controlled by Warner Bros.

Mike Adams

Yeah... what Sean said.

Sorry, didn't mean to confuse or disappoint anyone by repeatedly mentioning one of the films that doesn't appear in the sets, but that's just one of the only two Bond films I'll be buying.

Sean, your explanation revealed a couple of things I didn't even know, especially that the story for "Never..." was from the 'Thunderball' book. I'll have to re-watch both films and see if I can see the plot similarities. Of course since Sean Connery was also in Thunderball, why make yet another version with the same bond? I'd assume the answer was money, but still, I was thrilled to see him back as Bond.

As for Bond films that aren't in the sets, "Casino Royale" would also qualify. No, I'm not talking about the new one. The film I'm referring to is the Bond parody starring David Niven as Bond. Of course I consider this new film to be a parody of sorts as well, only it wasn't intended that way. A blond Bond... indeed.

cgray

uhh... what about releasing the sets until everybody that is going to has bought one, then releasing the individual releases? isn't this what has been done with the hitchcock set, etc.?

Jim

Most of the UEs released so far seem to be showing up individually on ebay. Some people seem to be splitting up the box sets and making money by selling them individually and others appear to be selling the 1 or 2 movies from a set that they don't care for.

iamnothitler

That's what I was hoping. Then again, I don't think they did that the last time they put together their boxed sets.
LJ

rw2516

MGM/UA now have NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN. It was all part of the big deal that reverted all the pre 50s WB back to WB from UA. The DVD was released by MGM/UA and the WB logo is removed from the film. It is never included in the box sets because EON won't allow it. Some guy in Australia re-edited NSNA "EON-izing" it. He reedited it so the pace is quicker and rearranged some scenes. He added the gun barrel logo to the begginning and replaced all the music with ques from EON films, mostly Barry. It's awesome. Way better than the released film and actually seems like an EON Bond. It starts with the gunbarrel, the white dot expands on Bond in the jungle preparing to assault the terrorist compound, when the girl he is suppose to rescue stabs him the picture dissolves into the Maurice Binder credits to Thunderball with all the appropriate credit changes. I watched it several times in a few days it was so good. I'll never watch the official version again.

creekdipper

If you don't mind sharing, where did you find this re-edited version? We really like Connery in NSNA (much better than Diamonds Are Forever, for instance), but the pacing always did seem a little off...like an excellent film was in there just waiting to bust out.

UAIOE

You won't have to look hard.



I'm also curious about the re-cut NSNA.

rw2516

Another thing about the MGM/UA dvd of NSNA. When first released it was edited. The scene where Bond plays the video game with Largo was cut. The mistake was corrected but you cannot tell the difference between the cut and complete version by the cover or disc. If you've had it a few years and never played it you mat want to check out your copy. Also all R2 versions have the horse fall cut out of the horse hitting the water after Bond jumps from the castle wall on horseback.

RocShemp

Color me curious about the recut NSNA. Where did you get it?

UAIOE

Not sure why they would have that cut, horses can swim.

Mike Adams

Not with a broken back they can't, and the horse apparently landed on its back. Not having seen the movie since the original theatrical release, I don't know if they actually had the horse do the stunt or if the censors were just taking issue with the fact that it looked like the horse took the fall.

As for the edit, I still haven't picked up a copy of the DVD, so hopefully I'll be safe. Was the entire scene cut so that if I see Bond playing the video game I know I have a good DVD, or is there a specific bit of footage I need to look for?

UAIOE

Well, the horse did take a fall....from probably 10-15 feet.

But it seems the horse was alright after the fall:




The jump off the wall was all special effects.

Mike Adams

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Haha... you sound like my girlfriend. All's well that ends well, right? So sad.

Anyway, I think it was the risk to the horse they were concerned about. Doesn't matter if he/she was okay after hitting the water, because it might not have ended up that way. I don't blame the SPCA for taking a much closer look at the involvement of animals in films after that.

IamLegend

Here is link to the site with some clips:
http://neversaymccloryagain.ohmss-007.com/

Mike Adams

Well that won't last long...

In my travels I see a lot of different tricks bootleggers use that they THINK will work to help them avoid prosecution, but this one takes the cake as the lamest yet.

"Never Say McClory Again is a fan-produced project which is intended only for private viewing by the author under the 'fair use' provision of US copyright law."

First of all, the "fair use" doctrine says nothing about editing a work, even if it's for your own private viewing. Secondly, you must violate the Digital Milennium Copyright Act in order to extract the digital audio and video tracks from a DVD as the author describes (he didn't say he just played the DVD into his computer, he actually "ripped" the tracks to his hard drive, defeating the CSS copy protection, which is illegal). And third, he contradicts his "this is only for my use" and "this is NOT for sale" assertions with the following:

As a token of my appreciation, it is my custom to send donors a gift of a DVD R of the project in thanks for their unselfish generosity.

Dude, if it's for YOUR eyes only (shameless Bond reference intended), why the hell are you giving away copies? For that matter, you claim you're not selling copies, but the fact that you only send copies to donors (and I'm sure there's a minimum donation required in order to receive a DVD), you ARE in effect selling a re-edited copyrighted work. None of the verbal calisthenics you're doing on your website will do you any good in court.

Note that I'm just venting -- I don't expect that the person who produced this is reading this forum, but you never know. Of course I see that the "Donations" page has been removed, so it looks like this guy has either been busted already, or has used his ill-gotten "donations" to buy himself a clue.

Being an amateur DVD producer myself, I think it's pretty funny that he's had to go to all the trouble of editing out the music and sound effects from a stereo mix (and gets up on a high horse to provide us lowly mortals with a "tutorial"), simply because he doesn't have the tools required to split the 5.1 soundtrack into separate tracks, which would not only save him a TON of work, it would make the finished product MUCH closer to what he's trying to achieve. It just bugs me when people are all tooting their own horn about their editing skills and the software they have, but they can't do something simple like splitting a Dolby Digital 5.1 audio stream. In those cases it's always "this is the BEST quality you can get... with the tools I have and doing it the way I'm doing it." How utterly pathetic.

Mabuse

Regarding buying individual titles:

After the first wave of Bond box sets (in 1999) the titles were made available individually. Then they were put in the vault when a second round of box sets came out. Were they ever released individually after that?

UAIOE

Well, you can see a difference in the actual movie between the "wall jump and fall" and the horse and stunt doubles falling into the water. How it was rendered (the SFX) they would have hit the water feet first.

But as for the safety, id be just as worried that the horse would have landed on top of someone just as much as the horse hurting itself.


As for the 2nd release: I don't think they were sold individually, as i had a hard time finding the movies that i wanted.

creekdipper

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bohemian1

Looks like they are exploiting bond fans in USA. There are individual bond movies available in Europe. In fact, there is sale going on bond movies (2 for 12 pounds - B1G1)
http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/specialO...;-1&code=06WQS