Pro-Conservative commentaries?
 

Just recently, I got the Return of the Living Dead III DVD, and listened to the commentaries. The commentary with Mindy Clarke, and the Special Effects guy was interesting. Unless the guy was doing a damn good job at being sarcastic, this is the only commentary I've ever heard, where a speaker is openly conservative. Can anyone think of any more?

Anything by John Carpenter.







(*ducks*)

Thanks for the warning.







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Hopefully not, I don't need these scumbags ruining my enjoyment of these movies.

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AFAIC, If they're not talking about the movie, they should just shut the hell up.

George Clooney take notice.

Wow! Let's have a round of applause for open-mindedness!

I can't think of any political leanings either way in any commentary I've heard. Maybe I don't know what to listen for?

I've never heard the commentary for ROTLD3 (holding out for an UNRATED version) and I'm sort of puzzling at how the discussion of the movie could be political.

I am unable to recall any commentary that seemed political... they're generally limited to either technical aspects of film-making or telling stories about production.

Maybe a John Milius commentary on something would go in that direction; though I don't know if he's ever provided a commentary or given political insight in one if he did one.

(Just in case anyone doesn't know who John Milius is, he's a screenwriter and director with a lot of right-leaning views. He wrote the screenplay for Red Dawn and was the basis for John Goodman's character in "The Big Lebowski.")

Do we need to have this conservatve bashing? Some of us may be conservative. If you want to bash conservatives, there's another forum. I think we should stick to posts relating to answering the OP's question.

Pro Conservative commentaries? There aren't many that I can think of, and I'm a conservative. Why would there be? For what movies would that come out in a commentary?

I'd almost guarantee one on Another Gay Movie.



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If the world was fair and safe to grow up in, I'd expect one for An Inconvenient Truth.

So eat that, digitalfreaknyc!

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Many Troma films have radical left commentary. Lloyd tends to throw in his political stuff at the end during the credits. Usually stuff like how Bush is too stupid to be in the White House and he's just a "puppet" and Dick Cheney and Haliburton are really running the show.

Dune (miniseries) had a very interesting commentary that leaned heavily to the left politically. They started talking about Afghanistan (AFGHANISTAN!! Not Iraq!!) and one of the guys was saying "Just what the hell are we doing in that country!!!". The other guy (the director?) then said "Shhh... shhh... shhhh.... Let's not talk about that." and quickly changed the subject. Keep in mind the guy was being very pissed off over us going into Afghanistan!!! To go after the Taliban!!! Wow!!!

James Cameron made some subtle conservative remarks in his ALIENS commentary. Actor Bill Chepil went on a born-again conservative tangent in the behind-the-scenes doc "The Meltdown Memoirs" in the STREET TRASH DVD, the most recent example I can think of.. There's more, trust me, we're not alone!

Doy! Many of the South Park (mini) commentaries have a slight conservative slant.

There is no such thing as a conservative commentary. They wouldn't be able to get a job if they did one.

There's a conservative bashing forum? Wow! They must have opened that up after the Political Forum got renamed to "Liberal Bashing Forum." ;)

Never heard any of DVD Savant's commentaries, then? His film noir commentaries definitely slant to the left -- and while in most cases he probably is picking out a political subtext intended by the writer or director, some times (just as in his reviews here) he gets on a tangent.

i just wanna hear anecdotes about bloopers or hardships during filming...not any conservative (or liberal) bs...well especially not conservative

I think the closest thing I've heard like this was on the Aliens commentary, where James Cameron talks about Sigourney Weaver's intense dislike of guns, and her surprise at being asked to fire several weapons.

After talking about how much Weaver enjoyed the experience, Cameron laughs and says something along the lines of "Another liberal bites the dust." But that's the only remotely political comment he makes.

ha ha... yeah, I remember that one (Aliens commentary).

Actually, I agree with people who want to have no political commentary in the commentaries (from either side). Just talk about the movie! If I want to hear a political commentary, I'll put on Rush or Hannity (which I do often).

I don't think people should be limited to any one thing in a commentary. Some of the best stuff in a commentary comes from tangential comments or stories.

That's the first and only one that popped into my head after reading the OP.

If I remember correctly they recorded this commentary just as we began to bomb the living shit out of Afghanistan right after 9/11 during the campaign to kill Bin Laden and destroy the Taliban.

Exactly. I guess they thought it was wrong to go after Bin Laden and the Taliban?!?!

I think most artists and filmmakers lean to the left. I think most people who have that creative and critical view point of the world, needed to make movies (and all art) tend to be progressive and more liberal with their beliefs.

Especially in genre films. You're generally not making things filled with sex and violence if you are conservative (and you're generally not doing anything interesting either)

Now really, is crap like this necesssary? I was an art student and would most definitely consider myself conservative. While I'll agree that a large percentage of the art community has liberal leanings, to say that "conservatives" (which is a pretty broad term don't you think?) don't do anything interesting is not only a direct insult to me, but is the same exact kind of close-minded ignorance that conservatives are often villified for. Throwing around these big labels like "conservative" and "liberal" is totally irresponsible anyway. I told you I consider myself conservative, so I could be someone who believes in a certain amount of personal fiscal freedom, or a hate mongering fascist, or anything in between. Whose to say. Well I guess it at least means I won't be "doing anything interesting."

Anyway, to get back on topic, I can't recall any blatantly conservative commentaries. However, for those who have never heard a commentary with a blatant any kind of political bent and would like to, I've got two words for you: OLIVER STONE. I love JFK, but the man's political paranoia is almost amusing at times.

I can't resist a dig. But it's appropriate and not a crap, most of the interesting, challenging and just over all good art is by it's nature progressive and shocking and more "liberal"

I too find it irresponsible and moronic to split everything into only two camps because people with a brain don't work like that, things are shades of grey and not one thing or another.

Further, there's nothing wrong with politics in a commentary track if it's appropriate to the movie.

Well that's silly. Do you really think if, say, Warren Beaty did a commentary for Reds or Bulworth, he shouldn't discuss the very thing those films are about? How about Battlestar Galactica, South Park, Futurama, or The Simpsons where many episodes are satires of current politics?

I'll admit it's annoying when you're listening to the director of some light comedy launch into a tangent about how America's become a scary place, and he feels like the peasant from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, but that doesn't mean politics have no place in movie commentaries.

I've always thought Cameron was a dickhead. Great director and writer, but dickhead. Weaver's side of it didn't mention "enjoying" it.

If we're talking about mainstream Hollywood films, they're only challenging if you're ten years old, and shocking only if you're still scandalized by dick'n'fart jokes. There's no reason you have to be liberal to make a good raunchy comedy -- as the creators of South Park prove -- or hardcore action film -- as Milius, Eastwood, and Cameron prove.

I didn't say popcorn movies, I'm saying anything interesting or "art" in general. Not knocking dick and fart comedy or action flicks. Generally movies that are classics, that really shake things up, move you emotionally etc and aren't just a time killer (not that there's anything wrong with a time killer), something insightful.

Further, I don't think the creators of south part ARE conservative, I think they hate bullshit from BOTH sides, they like to call it as they see it and there's a lot of ridiculous stuff ripe for parody in both extremes. World Police was JUST as critical of the bomb everything, invade, it's all terrorists Conservatives as they are anything "liberal" look at how they slam the ridiculousness and hipocracy of religion. Look at "That's My Bush" (which was granted more a parody of sitcoms in general, but still, I wouldn't imagine someone "Conservative" would make that).

I'm not sure how politics enter into a DVD commentary:

"Check out this framing master shot where the camera pulls back to distance the viewer from the action, and BTW the Federal Reserve should return to a Reagan-era monetarist policy."

Does not compute.

It's also sad that political life in this country has degenerated to such an extent that so many people use terms like "liberal" and "conservative" as epithets with no regard to what those words actually mean. They've just become labels in a childish "us vs them" contest.

There's actually a lot of conservatives out there, who lean slightly liberal socially.

Well the South Park guys are more libertarian than anything, but that's more in line with the conservative way of thinking. Some people say that a libertarian is just a conservative who's afraid to admit it.

Trey & Matt had a show like "That's My Bush" designed from the get-go. Whoever won the 2000 election was going to get a sitcom based on them. Bush won, so "That's My Bush" was created. If Gore won, then the show was going to be about him.

When I asked about pro-conservative commentaries, I didn't exactly mean speakers who are raging conservative, just a certain comment or two, that illudes to the party they lean to. I've actually heard a lot of commentaries, where the speak/speakers makes a comment or two, and you can tell they are liberal/lean liberal.

Also, I'm a little surprised about the John Carpenter comment. For some reason, I thought he was fairly liberal. Maybe not. I've listened to his Halloween, The Thing, The Fog, and Christine commentaries. Maybe he sounds conservative on some of his other commentaries.

I think he was kidding about Carpenter. He's a major Republican hating hippie.

They Live is specifically ABOUT Regan and the Reagan preseidency and culture of greed. Also if someone like Carpenter is doing a commentary about a movie that is VERY political is SHOULD be in the commentary (and it is). Commentaries aren't just about shots and lighting all the time, they are about what the movie is about, where the ideas come from, what it's making a statement about etc.

It's another issue/topic really, but most people like to slap an easy "us and them" label on things so they can have a team to route for. It's one of the many major problems with this country (and this world).