Go Back  DVD Talk Forum > DVD Discussions > DVD Talk
Reload this Page >

Warner stops with English subs on TV-series?

Community
Search
DVD Talk Talk about DVDs and Movies on DVD including Covers and Cases

Warner stops with English subs on TV-series?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-11-06 | 03:44 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Warner stops with English subs on TV-series?

Anybody knows if we will never see English subs on their series box sets (R1) anymore? All of my latest purchases (Smallville season 5, Supernatural and Veronica Mars season 2) are without English subs. I hope Warner will stop this nonsense. For me it is better to follow with subs beceause I am not English, but I guess there will be a lot of people with hearing problems who are dissapointed as well. Let's hope the new season of Gilmore Girls will have English subs (they talk fast :-) But I doubt it.
Old 09-11-06 | 03:59 PM
  #2  
Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Missouri
Are they at least close captioned?? Cause if not that is seriously wrong.
Old 09-11-06 | 04:09 PM
  #3  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by IGotsNewShoes
Are they at least close captioned?? Cause if not that is seriously wrong.
I think they are close captioned. Although for me that's useless beceause my tv/dvd player doesn't support close captions.
Old 09-11-06 | 05:08 PM
  #4  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 7,337
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I like subs of everything. I hearing isn't that good. And turning on the closed captioning is a pain.
Old 09-11-06 | 05:25 PM
  #5  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 2,720
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
From: Missouri, USA
No English subtitles on season 6 of The West Wing either. I suppose most won't notice or care but for me this is a seriously shitty trend. Thanks a lot Warner. I guess I'll pass on S2 of Veronica Mars. Thanks OP for the warning.
Old 09-11-06 | 05:31 PM
  #6  
Banned
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,704
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
I think they are close captioned. Although for me that's useless beceause my tv/dvd player doesn't support close captions.
Buy a new TV then
Old 09-11-06 | 05:39 PM
  #7  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 2,786
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: ...wait a minute, where the hell am I?
Originally Posted by DVDFreaker
Buy a new TV then
Is this response for real? Please, please tell me he's kidding.
Old 09-11-06 | 05:51 PM
  #8  
Member
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I love Subtitles too- my wife is a tiny bit hard of hearing and I just got used to subtitles. Even if you can hear fine it's hard not to miss bits of conversation in a show and subs help. I bought the first season of Medium as the specs on Amazon states it has English Subs. It did not. I almost didn't buy Veronica Mars S2 because of the lack of subs. And I also have trouble accessing CC. I guess you may have to turn sound off completely to access CC and I don;t want to do that - We like to hear what they're saying but just use subs as a kind of "back up". I don't get why Warner or any other companies wouldn't have subs - I almost kind of expect it now.
Old 09-11-06 | 06:12 PM
  #9  
Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: NoVa/Reston
I like being able to choose frome either one -

Subs for when I'm trying to figure out what's being said.
CC for when I mute the telly and want to continue following along.
Old 09-11-06 | 06:58 PM
  #10  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,199
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Muskegon, MI
I use the CC exclusively because I'm used to reading them on my TV when I'm watching TV shows.
Old 09-11-06 | 07:03 PM
  #11  
Video Gamer Reviewers
 
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 4,161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Using the power (or magic? ) of Google, I found

Originally Posted by Gord Lacey @ TVShowsonDVD
Warner Bros has discontinued English subtitles on their titles.
Full House - The Complete 4th Season Review, dated August 15, 2006
Old 09-11-06 | 07:34 PM
  #12  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 10,521
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: Lower Beaver, Iowa
Originally Posted by purplechoe
Is this response for real? Please, please tell me he's kidding.
Well, he's probably due. All TVs 13 inches and larger sold in the U.S. since 1993 are supposed to have subtitle decoders built into them.
Old 09-12-06 | 02:45 AM
  #13  
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Mr. Salty
Well, he's probably due. All TVs 13 inches and larger sold in the U.S. since 1993 are supposed to have subtitle decoders built into them.
I'm not from the US. They don't have CC here in Europe. I know there is an option to wait for Region 2 releases, bit they are often inferior to their US counterpart. Well let's hope that other studio's won't follow. I was just so happy HBO gives us English subs while they didn't on their early boxsets.

I wonder why Warner stopped with the English subs. Doesn't seem all that complicated putting it on the dvd's. And I don't think it's a space issue either.
Old 09-12-06 | 02:59 AM
  #14  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 10,521
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: Lower Beaver, Iowa
They probably felt it was redundant. If the discs are intended for Region 1, and Region 1 requires closed-captioning decoders in their TV sets, they probably think it's a waste of time and effort to include the same data twice.

I'm not saying I support the decision, but I think that's what happened.
Old 09-12-06 | 10:09 AM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 503
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: San Antonio, Texas
I have a projector for display so closed captioning is not an option for me. Subtitles really make a diference for me on some DVDs. I hope the lack of subtitles doesn't continue.
Old 09-12-06 | 10:49 AM
  #16  
Drexl's Avatar
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 16,077
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 14 Posts
From: St. Louis, MO
Another option would be to use a computer to watch them, since software players usually support CC.
Old 09-12-06 | 11:24 AM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 367
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: KY
All of the recent BBC America DVDs I've seen have still had subtitles, but I suppose that's more BBC's doing than Warner.
Old 09-12-06 | 12:49 PM
  #18  
Deadpool's Avatar
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 2,977
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: Maryland
I've noticed this as well and wrote a letter that I've yet to send off. I really like subs for many of the reasons already mentioned.
Old 09-12-06 | 03:16 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 975
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I wonder why Warner stopped with the English subs. Doesn't seem all that complicated putting it on the dvd's. And I don't think it's a space issue either.
It's a cost issue... For the amount of units being sold, it's probably not worth the cost.

And yes, subtitles cost enough to hit the bottom line.

fitprod
Old 09-12-06 | 04:32 PM
  #20  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,747
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Portland OR
Originally Posted by fitprod
It's a cost issue... For the amount of units being sold, it's probably not worth the cost.

And yes, subtitles cost enough to hit the bottom line.
If that's true, then why does Supernatural come with French, Spanish, Portuguese and 2 different dialects of Chinese?

Cost or not, English subtitles should be on the discs.
Old 09-12-06 | 11:47 PM
  #21  
Alan Smithee's Avatar
DVD Talk Reviewer & TOAT Winner
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 11,096
Received 457 Likes on 343 Posts
From: USA
English subtitles (or subtitles in whatever is the same language that is being spoken) exist just to show a printed version of what's being said- the assumption is that you can hear, but somehow can't understand the spoken words but you can understand them printed. Closed-captions detail everything of importance on the soundtrack, such as song lyrics and sound effects- they are meant for people who can't hear the soundtrack at all.
Old 09-13-06 | 11:29 AM
  #22  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,020
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
From: Arizona
I've also been frustrated by the dropping of English subtitles. They are most helpful to me when you can't quite make out what somebody was saying.
Old 09-13-06 | 12:43 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 379
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Salem, OR
My comprehension is better when I can see and hear what they are saying.
Therefore I keep my captioning on, though there are several problems with it.

My tv is a 55" Mitsubishi, it got burn in from CC scrolling on local news.

With DVD's it's another story. I use progressive scan so my closed captioning can't read the discs. It can only read dvd's in interlaced mode. I obviously play dvd's with subtitles then. So it sucks when they don't have subtitles.

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.