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jmj713 09-15-06 08:58 AM

Next year I bet we get a 3-disc Extended Edition.

Kocheese99 09-15-06 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by movielib
The extended edition is available from R3. It's 2-discs with DTS. CD Wow has it for just $14.95 if you use this link:

http://www10.cd-wow.us/index.php?affid=14275&pp_nr=1

Plus it's being released on October 12, more than a month before the R1 editions.


I've never ordered anything from them, are they any good? Plus, if i remember right R3 plays on R1 correct? No quality differences or anything and i assume all the Special features would be in english as well right? Thanks.

movielib 09-15-06 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Kocheese99
I've never ordered anything from them, are they any good? Plus, if i remember right R3 plays on R1 correct? No quality differences or anything and i assume all the Special features would be in english as well right? Thanks.

CD Wow is one of the best online retailers in the world. See the International Forum to see the praise we have all heaped on them. All their shipping is free worldwide.

Region 3 is all NTSC so in that regard they would play on our players. But it is a different region and you still need a region free player that plays discs from other regions. There are many of these and many are not expensive. Most require a simple "hack" using the remote to make them region free and these hacks are readily available. Again, see the International Forum where there are many discussions of these players. And if you do get a region free player it will also play discs recorded in the PAL format (mostly the European countries in R2 and the Australian area countries in R4).

As far as quality, R3 is just as good as R1 overall. Individual titles may possibly be better or worse in either region but I've never been disappointed with an R3 disc. In addition, there are more discs in R3 that provide DTS tracks such as this one for The Da Vinci Code.

And yes, all the extras that were done in English will be in English on the R3 discs. And as far as I can tell the extras are the same in all regions.

Kocheese99 09-15-06 01:44 PM

so just to clarify, i would need a region free player in order to play region 3?

movielib 09-15-06 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Kocheese99
so just to clarify, i would need a region free player in order to play region 3?

Yes.

PGHFlyer 11-04-06 11:05 AM

Saw an ad today that Target is selling a "3-Disc Widescreen Deluxe Edition" here in the USA. The Target exclusive disc includes:

- "Beyond The Da Vinci Code" a 90 minute History Channel Feature
- Exclusive Foil packaging

Zodo 11-04-06 11:31 AM

When I was at Walmart today I noticed that they're going to have a bonus disc with The Da Vinci Code too.

I don't remember what it was called, but it looked like an extra featurette.

I wish they've give these bonus discs out with the HD version...

ReduxGuy 11-04-06 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by jkzahn
Saw an ad today that Target is selling a "3-Disc Widescreen Deluxe Edition" here in the USA. The Target exclusive disc includes:

- "Beyond The Da Vinci Code" a 90 minute History Channel Feature
- Exclusive Foil packaging

Seems I'm gonna have to go to Target to get The Da Vinci Code.

JarJarBinks 11-04-06 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by ReduxGuy
Seems I'm gonna have to go to Target to get The Da Vinci Code.

Ditto. If that's the History Channel Feature that I saw, it's really really good.

Do you happen to recall the price for the 3-Disc set, jkzahn ?

PGHFlyer 11-04-06 01:56 PM

It was just an ad inside of this weeks Entertainment Weekly, so there wasn't a price...........

Harold Wazzu 11-04-06 03:24 PM

In the Bargains section, speedy has the Target release priced at $22.99, not too bad.

JLyon1515 11-10-06 08:16 AM

Any word on what the Wal-Mart extra disc will be? Seems like it'll be called something like "The Creation of the DaVinci Code." Am wondering if that'll be any good, or does everyone link that it's best to go with the Target release?

gerrythedon 11-13-06 02:07 AM


Originally Posted by JLyon1515
Any word on what the Wal-Mart extra disc will be? Seems like it'll be called something like "The Creation of the DaVinci Code." Am wondering if that'll be any good, or does everyone link that it's best to go with the Target release?

I think the Target one will be better. The Walmart one sounds like a making of, which the 2 discer [2nd disc] seems to have that coverd already.

dcprules 11-13-06 03:23 AM

Is this being released on Blu Ray? I haven't seen any information about it. It really would kinda surprise me if Sony's biggest film of the year isn't on their HD format.

Snowmaker 11-14-06 11:24 AM

Kudos to Sony for not charging us extra for the 2-disk release! :thumbsup:

GradVT06 11-14-06 01:34 PM

Anybody get the gift set from Circuit City? I got the Target variety for the package and the History channel documentary... and the CC box set for the extra goodies. It's supposed to come with an exclusive... no sticker on the box, they didn't have anything at the register, and they guranteed me it was in the box b/c multiple people have asked. Got home, nothing there. What gives?

baracine 11-14-06 03:49 PM

I saw the film at the cinema and I rented it today. I was disappointed then and I am less disappointed now, knowing what to expect. A lot like this reviewer ( http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=24538 ), I think it is a better film on second viewing, when your expectations have been drastically lowered.

But what no «Extended Edition» can ever correct is the liberties the director and screenwriter have taken with the book's story, for no other reason than they were scared of public reaction. I'm talking about the changes they made to Sophie Neveu's family tree, which turn Dan Brown's intricate novel into a dumbed-down Scooby Doo adventure with a typical cop-out ending.

Spoiler:
In the film version, Sophie's grandfather is no longer her real grandfather (so that no descendant of Christ can be said to have engaged in a sex ritual) and her living grandmother is no longer Saunière's widow. Sophie also looses a brother in the process. The film's ending is robbed of any significance, Sophie is robbed of her own family tree - which happens to be the subject of the book - and her backstory becomes meaningless. Someone ought to break it as gently as possible to Ron Howard that none of us - except maybe clones - would even be on this earth without our ancestors having committed some kind of sex act at one point...


Now, if they only came out with a Special Mea Culpa Edition where this act of public cowardice would be corrected, I'd buy it.

Among the self-congratulatory extras on Disc 2 is 7-minutes featurette called «Who is Sophie Neveu?». It's interesting to watch the director and screenwriter lie through their teeth, squirm through and skirt the issue entirely. It's also fun to learn that Ron Howard never manages to pronounce the character's name properly. (He pronounces «Sophie Nouveau.)

GradVT06 11-14-06 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by baracine
I saw the film at the cinema and I rented it today. I was disappointed then and I am less disappointed now, knowing what to expect. A lot like this reviewer ( http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=24538 ), I think it is a better film on second viewing, when your expectations have been drastically lowered.

But what no «Extended Edition» can ever correct is the liberties the director and screenwriter have taken with the book's story, for no other reason than they were scared of public reaction. I'm talking about the changes they made to Sophie Neveu's family tree, which turn Dan Brown's intricate novel into a dumbed-down Scooby Doo adventure with a typical cop-out ending.

Spoiler:
In the film version, Sophie's grandfather is no longer her real grandfather (so that no descendant of Christ can be said to have engaged in a sex ritual) and her living grandmother is no longer Saunière's widow. Sophie also looses a brother in the process. The film's ending is robbed of any significance, Sophie is robbed of her own family tree - which happens to be the subject of the book - and her backstory becomes meaningless. Someone ought to break it as gently as possible to Ron Howard that none of us - except maybe clones - would even be on this earth without our ancestors having committed some kind of sex act at one point...


Now, if they only came out with a Special Mea Culpa Edition where this act of public cowardice would be corrected, I'd buy it.

Among the self-congratulatory extras on Disc 2 is 7-minutes featurette called «Who is Sophie Neveu?». It's interesting to watch the director and screenwriter lie through their teeth, squirm through and skirt the issue entirely. It's also fun to learn that Ron Howard never manages to pronounce the character's name properly. (He pronounces «Sophie Nouveau.)

I don't get it... lying through their teeth? about what? I didn't read the book and couldn't quite pick up what you're talking about...

baracine 11-14-06 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by GradVT06
I don't get it... lying through their teeth? about what? I didn't read the book and couldn't quite pick up what you're talking about...

Lying through their teeth about the character of Sophie Neveu being the most important one in the story for them. If they really thought that, why did they rewrite her family tree and her character to suit their prudish attitudes? The film was a big disappointment for the people who had read the book. Making a successful book into a successful film requires that you «don't fix it if it ain't broke». Unfortunately, Howard and his screenwriter changed the story to a point that is insulting to the intelligence of the readers. What I am talking about is under the spoiler label in the preceding post.

GradVT06 11-14-06 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by baracine
Lying through their teeth about the character of Sophie Neveu being the most important one in the story for them. If they really thought that, why did they rewrite her family tree and her character to suit their prudish attitudes? The film was a big disappointment for the people who had read the book. Making a successful book into a successful film requires that you «don't fix it if it ain't broke». Unfortunately, Howard and his screenwriter changed the story to a point that is insulting to the intelligence of the readers. What I am talking about is under the spoiler label in the preceding post.

OK, thanks. I had to read that a couple times to figure out exactly had changed from the book to the film. Because I didn't read the book, as I never do much of anymore anyway (except for some non-fiction), I thought it was terrific. I like long, dramatic, tense, movies, that's don't require a lot of action to be entertaining. I have a degree in History so I'm always interested in the historical and religious aspects of films like that.

Like someone else noted, and the reviewer for DVDTalk mentioned, the film got better the 2nd time you watch it. The multiple versions (Gift set, Target set) will some of my favorite peices/gift sets along with V for Vendetta.

ReduxGuy 11-14-06 09:52 PM

I got the Deluxe Edition from Target today.

I must say, I like the artwork on the DE much more than on the SE.

MrStayPuft 11-14-06 10:13 PM

I got the Target 3 disc DE as well, and am very pleased with the packaging. It's cool that the 2 disc dvd inside has the slipcover and it still fits inside the outer box.

Al Gore would be disapprove of this wasteful packaging though.

needlz 11-14-06 10:30 PM

I also got the 3 disc Target exclusive as well . . . love the packaging!

Willh51 11-14-06 10:37 PM

Target 3 disc as well. As heavy as the actual dvd was I thought it would have a booklet...yet it was only some stupid ads.

baracine 11-14-06 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by GradVT06
OK, thanks. I had to read that a couple times to figure out exactly had changed from the book to the film. Because I didn't read the book, as I never do much of anymore anyway (except for some non-fiction), I thought it was terrific. I like long, dramatic, tense, movies, that's don't require a lot of action to be entertaining. I have a degree in History so I'm always interested in the historical and religious aspects of films like that.

Like someone else noted, and the reviewer for DVDTalk mentioned, the film got better the 2nd time you watch it. The multiple versions (Gift set, Target set) will some of my favorite peices/gift sets along with V for Vendetta.

There are more changes that were made that are also offensive to the viewer/reader's intelligence and simply don't work. The character of Commissaire Fache, for instance...

Spoiler:
is portrayed in the film as a chump who has obtained false information from Bishop Aringarosa to the effect that Langdon has confessed his crimes to him and presumably intends to kill other people. This is ridiculous on many, many levels such as (1) what motive could Langdon possibly have to kill Saunière and other prominent Priory members? (2) why would he confess his crimes to anybody? (3) why would he confess them to Aringarosa, whom he doesn't know from Adam and who is presumably the only person we can name in the whole film who could possibly profit from those deaths? and (4) why would Aringarosa break his sacred vow of secrecy to denounce a man who is killing off enemies of the Church? Not only is this script-changing lazy, stupid, retarded, ignorant and unjustifiable in and of itself, but we must assume that if it had happened, Fache would be clever enough to see it as the lie that it is.

In the book, Fache is a good-natured and competent soul, with a traditional bent who has actually figured out by himself the link between Aringarosa and Silas (Silas had told the nun in St-Sulpice that he was sent by Aringarosa before meeting and killing her) and is pressuring the latter's sense of guilt for having unleashed Silas on a killing spree to give him more information which eventually disculpates Sophie and Robert Langdon. He is not a member of the Opus Dei and is not a pathologically violent monster.

Equally cut from the film is the elaborate, long-term planning by Teaberg to set up the whole treasure hunt by listening in on all four Priory members with elaborate bugging devices over a period of several months and manipulating Aringarosa.

It turns out in the book that neither the Opus Dei nor the Vatican are villains bent on murder but that they were all manipulated by the evil Teabing for his own end of learning and disseminating the secret. In particular, there is no «secret council» of shady Vatican figures financing the murderous activities of the mysterious «Teacher». In the book, the Vatican is openly intent on dismantling Opus Dei as an embarrassment to the Church and simply paying Aringarosa one of five installments necessary to sever all ties between the two institutions, money which Aringarosa wants to use in part to pay the Teacher in exchange for the Grail secret, with which he intends to blackmail the Vatican into reinstating Opus Dei.


All in all, and for all those reasons, the book is a lot more entertaining and satisfying than the film can ever be.


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