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JLB 09-14-06 08:43 AM

I wonder if my library will have them. I'd borrow them to see Han shoot first again, but that is about it.

milo bloom 09-14-06 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by sracer
Quality is very subjective thing to measure. But I've compared my bootlegs to the official release and these discs are noticeably better than the bootlegs... and that seems to be the consensus of others who have done a similar comparison.


I can appreciate that not everyone has a laserdisc player to fall back on, and of course VHS is hardly anything approaching high quality; but "better than bootleg" is not something that should be used to describe Lucasfilm release, esp that of a trilogy that redefined cinema-going, and defined an entire generation and continues to influence people of all ages to this day.

I do have the 2004 DVDs because I honestly never expected to see the originals. When these were announced, I had no inkling that they would consider anything less than a stellar quality release. I have no problem waiting for them to do it right.

sracer 09-14-06 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by milo bloom
I can appreciate that not everyone has a laserdisc player to fall back on, and of course VHS is hardly anything approaching high quality; but "better than bootleg" is not something that should be used to describe Lucasfilm release, esp that of a trilogy that redefined cinema-going, and defined an entire generation and continues to influence people of all ages to this day.

It's all about relativity. Some of the SW bootlegs are good... REALLY good... better than some official releases of other films. These O-OT discs, although not anamorphic are even better than those boots.

Some fanatics are making it sound like because these discs are not anamorphic, that they are worse than or as good as VHS. (not the exact words, but that's the impression they give) These DVD discs were created from the same MASTER that was used to create the laserdisc... these DVDs were not created FROM the laserdiscs themselves. BIG DIFFERENCE.

People can believe what they want. And I understand the need for some to use hypercriticism as an attempt to demonstrate their "discernment of quality". But these O-OT discs are very good. I just feel bad for those who (would normally enjoy these O-OT discs) being scared off by those hypercritics.

ShaunoftheDead 09-14-06 09:40 AM

Just to make sure...all the grain and dirt (especially in the beginning of ANH on Tatooine) that is littered in the original's release disc is normal, correct?

milo bloom 09-14-06 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by sracer
These DVD discs were created from the same MASTER that was used to create the laserdisc... these DVDs were not created FROM the laserdiscs themselves. BIG DIFFERENCE.

I'm well aware of this, but I'd like to point out for those that don't realize it: these are still from a 13 year old telecine. Film to tape transfer technology has advanced by leaps and bounds in these past 13 years, hell they've advanced greatly since the launch of DVD. I get the feeling some people might have been expecting a transfer that, while not anamorphic, still looks like a modern day DVD transfer, and that's simply not the case.


Originally Posted by sracer
People can believe what they want. And I understand the need for some to use hypercriticism as an attempt to demonstrate their "discernment of quality". But these O-OT discs are very good. I just feel bad for those who (would normally enjoy these O-OT discs) being scared off by those hypercritics.

I know for a good majority of people will find these discs to be a godsend, and I can't be mad at them for buying. My anger is more at Lucas for treating these films so poorly. This should not be an issue! I only wanted them treated with the respect that they deserve, and I do feel that this effort was hampered somewhat by the people that defend any decision Lucas makes, no matter how illogical.

I've been seeing the commercials for this release, and I do get a sort of "warm fuzzy" seeing those kids expressing their enjoyment of the saga*, and the dad being happy he could share these films with his children. I just can't get over how the tiniest bit of effort could have made everyone happy.


*except the racist little girl who wants to subjugate a sentient species to the role of a mere pet.

Jay G. 09-14-06 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by milo bloom
*except the racist little girl who wants to subjugate a sentient species to the role of a mere pet.

Wouldn't she be a speciesist then?

C_Fletch 06-16-07 05:39 PM

Man, I must have been in a cave or compeltely forgot about these. I found a couple of used copies relatively cheap. When I put them in I was actually disgusted. What is the reason for giving me this garbage other then the fact that they want to milk me for more $$ when they decide to encode them correctly. I did not even realize that studios were even releasing movies in a 4X3 letterbox. Needless to say I was disgusted with the whole thing and returned them. Lucas can ki$$ my a$$.

What a joke.

calhoun07 06-17-07 02:13 AM


Originally Posted by C_Fletch
Man, I must have been in a cave or compeltely forgot about these. I found a couple of used copies relatively cheap. When I put them in I was actually disgusted. What is the reason for giving me this garbage other then the fact that they want to milk me for more $$ when they decide to encode them correctly. I did not even realize that studios were even releasing movies in a 4X3 letterbox. Needless to say I was disgusted with the whole thing and returned them. Lucas can ki$$ my a$$.

What a joke.

Lucas didn't milk you for your money for those, the person who sold them to you used did. Lucas doesn't even care you returned them...it's not as if the money to refund you came out of his pocket.

I mean, you didn't even vote with your pocket book with this one...You felt the need to resurrect an old thread to tell us you bought a DVD set you decided you were unhappy with and returned it? Talk about jokes.

TheDeathDealer 06-17-07 02:20 AM

Calhoun, I don't care how you look at it, Lucas is a money-hungry whore. PERIOD. He's lived off of one trilogy his entire life. Talk about a joke, he's the true joke.

calhoun07 06-17-07 02:33 AM


Originally Posted by TheDeathDealer
Calhoun, I don't care how you look at it, Lucas is a money-hungry whore.

Granted, he makes A LOT of money out of merchandising, but how much of that does he put back into his own business that has contributed to countless movies, kept many employees working and well paid to keep their families in houses? Yes, he makes a good amount of money, but it's not like it's ALL just going to him.

And there are MANY people out there who do what they do to make money. Some just do it better than others. Why make Lucas a target for such hatred because you didn't like a DVD set? (not YOU you, just "you" in general.)

And managing to make a living, run a business that contributes to countless movies, gives jobs to people all pretty much from the basis of just six movies....well, I guess I don't see that as being a whore, I see that as being SMART. That and I think others are just jealous because they haven't been able to do the same.

DoubleDownAgain 06-17-07 02:46 AM


Originally Posted by TheDeathDealer
Calhoun, I don't care how you look at it, Lucas is a money-hungry whore. PERIOD. He's lived off of one trilogy his entire life. Talk about a joke, he's the true joke.

Indiana Jones says hi! :)

pinata242 06-17-07 10:13 AM

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Josh H 06-17-07 10:16 AM

That's what happens when you make uninformed purchases. :shrug:

I skipped this set, just like I do any non-anamorphic release.

nodeerforamonth 06-17-07 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by TheDeathDealer
Calhoun, I don't care how you look at it, Lucas is a money-hungry whore. PERIOD. He's lived off of one trilogy his entire life. Talk about a joke, he's the true joke.

ONE trilogy? Try THREE trilogies! (Star Wars, SW Prequels, Indiana Jones). That's NINE movies.

Nothing wrong with wanting to get paid for your work.

Dr Mabuse 06-17-07 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Egon's Ghost
I'm going to have to say Yes, because it's the only way that I can get Star Wars, Empire and Jedi on DVD.


Originally Posted by yellowbedwetter
Im a star wars fan, but not the kind that gets picky over a couple extra CGI shots here and there.


Originally Posted by Egon's Ghost
a couple?

you summed it up... a couple huh?...

i got these to have the originals... first set i've bought since the VHS trilogy...

Lucas is the perfect example of how far a man can fall... when by reason of power and money he no longer feels a need to pretend to restrain his ego... or do good work...

as ol' Abe Lincoln said "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power"... Lucas failed that test miserably...

nateman 06-18-07 06:48 AM


you summed it up... a couple huh?...

i got these to have the originals... first set i've bought since the VHS trilogy...

Lucas is the perfect example of how far a man can fall... when by reason of power and money he no longer feels a need to pretend to restrain his ego... or do good work...

as ol' Abe Lincoln said "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power"... Lucas failed that test miserably...
Its about time someone started quoting Abe Lincoln again.

Greg MacGuffin 06-18-07 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by nateman241
Its about time someone started quoting Abe Lincoln again.

:lol:


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