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maingon 04-30-06 09:53 PM

Won an dvd on Ebay question
 
I won Season 1 of dark angel on ebay its the region 2 version I have region one, but I also wanted it just cause its widescreen, anyways I won it for only .60 cents and 5.00 shipping, The seller sent it

"I'm very sorry about asking for this.
But I really don't want to sell you this item even though you've won it.
I really regret putting this item up for sale. Is it ok if we retract
from the agreement?

I e-mailed him saying is it because of the low price? he says

"yes it is my mistake. is it possible to cancell it then?" but I said its your fault for starting it at only a penny, and if you wanted more then you should of set a reserve price or started the bid higher. I really want this especally for the cheap price.


I felt bad so i said will it make it better if I give you 8 extra bucks so the sale price would be 8.60+5.00 shipping. He sold season 2 too and it went for 15 bucks.

He replied
"I very much don't want to sell my item actually. Is it ok with you to cancel
it?"


I know its because of the low price, I should I let him back out? or should I say no i wont cancel it, its your fault for setting a low price and if you didnt want to sell it why put it on ebay

Should I make him go through the deal? and say if he doesnt I will contact ebay? He should be able to back out just cause it only went for .60 cents

heres the auction

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=9128180726

Lemdog 04-30-06 10:00 PM

I say hose him, but I'm a bastard.

Willh51 04-30-06 10:05 PM

He's being a shit, but I'd just forget it. He could very easily mess up the set out of anger and of course you'd never get to return it. It definitely is the seller's problem, but if I were you I'd avoid the hassle.

chemosh6969 04-30-06 10:06 PM

He has to sell it to you since he made a contract to sell it to you by using eBay.

Then tell him "Welcome to eBay" and send him a link all about reserve pricing.

Then have him kick you in the balls, or lips if you are a girl, for posting this in the wrong forum.

spinning plates 04-30-06 10:07 PM

tell him he's sol. like you already told him, he shouldn't have started the auction at a penny if he wasn't willing to part with it for that price.

Maxflier 04-30-06 10:10 PM

Looks like he is a new member at Ebay, so he probably is still learning the ropes.
If it were me, i would let him off the hook. It just comes down to how nice of a guy you are i guess.

Living Dead 04-30-06 10:11 PM

I'd go ahead and let him out of it (not really worth the hassle IMO), then moniter his auctions for a while, and if he relists it, report him and leave negative feedback. I've done that once or twice in the past.

BuddyRevell 04-30-06 10:15 PM

I say you find this guy, rip open his stomach, grab his intestines, and squeeze the shit out of him!!

Or just let him know that you want the dvd and he's SOS, but be cool about it.

speedyray 04-30-06 10:15 PM

I say no - or at least if you do - leave him negative feedback. If you don't want to sell it for a penny - don't list it for a penny. I mean - I never list at a price lower than I will accept for an item.

supfool! 04-30-06 10:42 PM

Tell him he doesn't have to sell it if he eats the whole thing!

freshticles 04-30-06 11:11 PM

Tough luck. That's why we buy things on Ebay isn't it, for the chance of a really good deal? I'd make him sell it to me or threaten reporting him, but I am most definitely a huge bastard.

fliggil 04-30-06 11:15 PM

eBay transactions are legal transactions, it is both parties responsibility to carry out their end of the deal unless they mutually consent to other terms. Several times I have won misspelled or mis-listed items on eBay and never once has anyone attempted to 'cancel' their listing. For example, I won a brand new sealed Alfred Hitchcock Signature Collection for $12 a few weeks ago (or as he listed it, 'Alfred Hithcock') If you want the item, it is his responsibility to sell it for the final price, other wise you have the right to report him to eBay. It's up to you.

Reservoir 04-30-06 11:38 PM

He's obviously new to Ebay and he has to learn a lesson.

That lesson is either you insist on getting it for 60c, you come to an agreement, you drop it (and leave him negative feedback and he'll leave it for you perhaps) or you get nothing and he'll not be bothered as he'll just open a new account.

Go with you conscience.

NatrlBornThrllr 05-01-06 01:59 AM

The fuck? I'm surprised at how many people are telling you to drop it. I think you've gone above and beyond by offering him an additional $8 (something I'd personally never do, because if I take a risk by buying on eBay, it's solely in an attempt to get the best deal possible...and $0.60 would certainly be a better deal than $8.60).

However, I'm an asshole so I guess it's up to you. If you're willing to pay more, you can always buy another set and this auction will have cost you nothing but time...so I guess if you're not like me and many other eBayers (searching for the best price possible), you can go that route and it would solve all of the problems. Not what I'd do, but again, like many others in this thread, I'm a bit of a bastard.

Up to you.

-JP

Eric D. 05-01-06 04:21 AM

Screw that guy. You won a legit aution and you are entitled to it. I'm sure he would have no problem forcing you to pay $100 or something like that if you bid by mistake on a ridiculous price, or couldn't come up with the cash at the last minute. You are such a nice person to offer him extra money and he still bitched about it. I would never have done that. Go for it man. Make that little bastard cough it up.

BeeLineTooHive 05-01-06 05:34 AM

a person can get nasty if they want to.. push his buttons and you may wish you never spent the .60 and shipping because what you get wont be worth it. The guy should have taken the 8.60 and lost the rest as a cost of learning.... but do you really think you will end up with it in your hands for that price... I am betting HE dosent think so

Fincher Fan 05-01-06 05:47 AM

Just let it go...

paulringodaman 05-01-06 06:29 AM

Make sure he doesn't ruin your feedback rating with a big fat negative

ytrez 05-01-06 08:07 AM

I'd hold him to it. There are no extenuating circumsatnces here. He listed. You bid. Auction ended. You won. That's simply the way ebay works. Congratulations on a nice bargain.

Harold Wazzu 05-01-06 08:31 AM

I say if hold him to it you run the risk of him not sending the item. So just drop it and leave neutral feedback.

Spiderbite 05-01-06 08:50 AM

Tough shit on his part. That's the way Ebay works and he just got a lesson in it. In my opinion it is worth losing the 5 bucks to try to get the set of dvds.

As someone above said...you never start an auction at a price that you are not willing to part with the item for. If I want more than a buck for my cd, then I start the bidding at the minimum I will accept. And never ever offer more money that what you won it for. There are way too many assholes, poor sellers & con artists on Ebay to feel sorry for anyone. You are always taking a risk when you either buy or sell on Ebay.

A lot of Ebay is all about timing. If the right person in the world is looking at your auction at the right time...you get a great price. If that person ain't there, you lose money...simple as that.

And beware of leaving negative feedback if they have not left you feedback yet. It's likely that if you leave something negative, he will leave you a negative as well. And we all know that negative feedback on Ebay stays with you like herpes.

tofferman 05-01-06 09:12 AM

He could refuse to send it to you regardless, even if you paid him the extra $8. This is followed by your legitimate posting of negative feedback. He could also refuse to acknowledge your payment or post negative feedback though you were honest. In the end, he opens up a new account which is very easy to do. My point? It's not worth the hassle.

ThatGuamGuy 05-01-06 09:18 AM

Look at it like this; you know that it won't end up with you getting the DVD. There's no way you can force him to send you the DVD. If you send him the money after he's told you he's not going to give it up, yeah, you can complain to Ebay, and Ebay will make him give you the money back, but they can't force him to ship the item.

I'd send him a response in which you politely but firmly make it clear that that's Ebay. But if he's not gonna ship it, there's not gonna be too much you can do.

I'd also like to take this chance to say that I just got the 14-disc Oliver Stone set off of Ebay for $6 with shipping.

Reservoir 05-01-06 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by ThatGuamGuy
I'd also like to take this chance to say that I just got the 14-disc Oliver Stone set off of Ebay for $6 with shipping.

I was going to bid on that until I read the small print:

Please note this set includes 14 copies of Heaven and Earth

DJ_Longfellow 05-01-06 10:29 AM

I would tell him you will leave him negative feedback since he refuses to ship the DVD. He is obligated to sell the item.

clappj 05-01-06 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by DJ_Longfellow
I would tell him you will leave him negative feedback since he refuses to ship the DVD. He is obligated to sell the item.

Yeah, but the problem with that is the eBayer could also choose to leave negative feedback for maingon. That would be really crappy, but he could do that and there'd be nothing maingon could do about it. :(

tonyc3742 05-01-06 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by ytrez
I'd hold him to it. There are no extenuating circumsatnces here. He listed. You bid. Auction ended. You won. That's simply the way ebay works. Congratulations on a nice bargain.

*seconded*

Keep your/his emails. If he refuses to sell the item to you at the price you, you know, *contracted* for, report him to ebay.

It's not like ebay doesn't have tools to prevent exactly this scenario, they're easy to find/use, it's up to the seller to use them.

I probably wouldn't leave feedback unless/until he does.

dvd_luver 05-01-06 11:54 AM

I will never ever start an auction on ebay at .1 cent. It's just stupid, a waste of time and sellers ought to know that. You can go walk in any parking lot of a shopping center and usually find a penny or two. People that do that on ebay I just can't see what the point is to it. $1 dollar maybe, but a freakin .1 penny. No way.

And than they realize they made a mistake. Duh!

dvd_luver 05-01-06 12:06 PM

If he doesn't go through with the transaction, the best punishment to him would be to drop a negative on him. So ask him to leave you positive feedback first to settle the transaction, and than go in and slap him with a well earned negative score.

tonyc3742 05-01-06 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by dvd_luver
I will never ever start an auction on ebay at .1 cent. It's just stupid, a waste of time and sellers ought to know that. You can go walk in any parking lot of a shopping center and usually find a penny or two. People that do that on ebay I just can't see what the point is to it. $1 dollar maybe, but a freakin .1 penny. No way.

And than they realize they made a mistake. Duh!

Most of the "penny sales" I see, charge 8-12+ bucks for shipping something that could go <3 bucks First Class, or 5 bucks Priority, so it's definitely not a mistake....
I start auctions at either .01 for low ticket or .99 for higher priced items, but if I have a 'minimum' I will sell for, I set a reserve.

dvd_luver 05-01-06 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by dtcarson
Most of the "penny sales" I see, charge 8-12+ bucks for shipping something that could go <3 bucks First Class, or 5 bucks Priority, so it's definitely not a mistake.....

Yeah, I see that all the time. It's very common, sellers are making the price very attractive and inflating shipping costs to get the money for the item. Some sellers do sell for a penny with normal shipping price and no reserve.

cisman 05-01-06 02:04 PM

I would not send him extra money.

I would either

A - If you want to be nice drop it and leave neutral feedback...or like others have said leave negative if he relists it cheap.

B - Say no and threaten negative if he doesn't. If he leaves negative you can always contact ebay as they will remove retalitory feedback.

If you send the 8.00 off ebay there's not legal contract and he might not send it and your out $8.00 instead of .60 cents.

dadaluholla 05-01-06 02:30 PM

I've been selling some comic book lots on eBay starting at a penny. I charge the regular shipping costs for them. I just want to get rid of them. Sometimes I make a good amount, other times just a few bucks. It doesn't matter to me really.

I would definitely file a complain against the guy. You can't be weak with these fools, or they will keep on doing it. Ebay is full of enough deadbeats as it is.

Dai 05-01-06 02:45 PM

I guess the OP made up his mind as he's given the seller neutral feedback

ThatGuamGuy 05-01-06 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by dvd_luver
I will never ever start an auction on ebay at .1 cent. It's just stupid, a waste of time and sellers ought to know that. You can go walk in any parking lot of a shopping center and usually find a penny or two. People that do that on ebay I just can't see what the point is to it. $1 dollar maybe, but a freakin .1 penny. No way.

People do it because of the fees associated with listing an item; listing an item at one cent is lower than an item at one dollar. People assume that, if it will sell for a high price, a low starting price will just encourage more bidders, but I've found that you can make a little more money by starting an auction at 4.95 rather than 2.95, even if the fee is a little more.

But that's why; lower fees. People think they're taking advantage of the system, especially when they then uber-charge for shipping [I saw one this weekend where it was either .01 or .99, but it was $10 to ship!].

ThatGuamGuy 05-01-06 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by dtcarson
It's not like ebay doesn't have tools to prevent exactly this scenario, they're easy to find/use, it's up to the seller to use them.

What tools does Ebay have to prevent this? I know you can complain to Ebay, and Ebay will make sure you get any money you paid refunded, but what power does Ebay really have to force somebody to ship something if they genuinely don't want to?

The most they could possibly do would be close the guy's account, but I've seen people with half a dozen or more such instances (according to their feedback) who haven't been suspended yet, so I tend to think Ebay doesn't suspend people for a first offense. I may be wrong, of course, but I just don't see Ebay doing much in this situation beyond making sure that any money that changed hands changes back.

Now, it's possible that threats and pressure from Ebay itself would cause the guy to reconsider ... but it doesn't seem likely.

tonyc3742 05-01-06 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by ThatGuamGuy
What tools does Ebay have to prevent this? I know you can complain to Ebay, and Ebay will make sure you get any money you paid refunded, but what power does Ebay really have to force somebody to ship something if they genuinely don't want to?

The most they could possibly do would be close the guy's account, but I've seen people with half a dozen or more such instances (according to their feedback) who haven't been suspended yet, so I tend to think Ebay doesn't suspend people for a first offense. I may be wrong, of course, but I just don't see Ebay doing much in this situation beyond making sure that any money that changed hands changes back.

Now, it's possible that threats and pressure from Ebay itself would cause the guy to reconsider ... but it doesn't seem likely.

Actually I meant ebay has tools the seller can use to make sure he doesn't sell the item at a price below what he wanted to accept. You're right, ebay's power to enforce a sale is most likely limited to suspension.

Kimiakane 05-01-06 05:41 PM

Tell him (her) to put his big boy (or girl) pants on. I am a power seller at eBay and I never get what I want to get out of what I sell. I sell the things we collected before we were married and almost everything sells for much less than what we paid for it. Such is life at eBay.

Snowmaker 05-01-06 06:17 PM

Looks like you've already given in and left neutral feedback. :thmbsdwn:

He should kiss you ass and leave you one hell of a positive one for that.

ThatGuamGuy 05-01-06 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by dtcarson
Actually I meant ebay has tools the seller can use to make sure he doesn't sell the item at a price below what he wanted to accept. You're right, ebay's power to enforce a sale is most likely limited to suspension.

Oh, sorry, I misread you.

I forgot to mention the other possibility, which is that somebody E-mailed him after the auction was over with a better offer, so he decided to back out of the sale.

I've had shady offers on both sides, as a seller and a buyer, so I know it happens, especially with something that sold for a bit of a low amount.


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