Do people really still buy full screen movies?
02-13-06 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by darkside
There is no way this problem reaches 20% on the HD formats. The backlash from consumers will be too much for that. The people buying HD-DVD players and Blu-Ray players for at least the first couple of years are going to be videophiles and they will not put up with 20% of those movies being cut from 2.35:1 to 1.78:1.
Lion's Gate has already been flooded with complaints over just one DVD being cut that way so I think this problem will get dealt with before it becomes a major issue.
In the late 90's everyone was just as worried that DVD would switch to mostly fullscreen releases once the format caught on with mainstream consumers and that turned out to not be true.
Lion's Gate has already been flooded with complaints over just one DVD being cut that way so I think this problem will get dealt with before it becomes a major issue.
In the late 90's everyone was just as worried that DVD would switch to mostly fullscreen releases once the format caught on with mainstream consumers and that turned out to not be true.
02-13-06 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by darkside
Open matte can be a bad experience. I think Pee Wee's Big Adventure is one of the big examples of this, but there were a couple of films were more nudity was shown in the open matter versions. Can't remember the movies in question now, but I'm sure someone will.
02-13-06 | 06:21 PM
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Most 'full-frame' transfers zoom in to hide stuff you're not supposed to see. Most 1.85 movies show boom mikes at the top of the frame quite frequently, but they zoom in so you don't see them. A lot of old video transfers from the early 80s are completely unmatted though- a personal favorite of mine is The Muppet Movie; on the original laserdisc from 1981 put out by Magnetic Video, you can actually see the puppeteers at the bottom of the screen in many shots. Later transfers of this movie zoomed-in so you don't see them.
02-13-06 | 06:44 PM
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I work at Blockbuster and like many have already stated before me, I have customers (mostly elderly) complain ALL the time about the black bars and how they hate it and they dont have a widescreen tv, blah blah blah. I explain to them about it being the original theatrical aspect ratio but they dont seem to care... All I can say is that I have been watching WS for so long now, whenever FS is on, it bugs the crap out of me...
Basically, people who buy FS are Idiots!!!
Basically, people who buy FS are Idiots!!!
02-13-06 | 11:18 PM
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I realize the frustration of dealing with someone with their beliefs already set, even though it may be based on misinformation.
I've seen this vein of argument so many times before. PC vs Mac, VHS vs Beta, audio cassette vs 8 track, Ford vs Chevy, etc.
There is nothing you can say or do that will change their mind, only entrench them further in their preference.
If they want to watch full screen fine, let them, its their time and money. They will be the ones with obsolete software as TV's become more widescreeen friendly.
I've seen this vein of argument so many times before. PC vs Mac, VHS vs Beta, audio cassette vs 8 track, Ford vs Chevy, etc.
There is nothing you can say or do that will change their mind, only entrench them further in their preference.
If they want to watch full screen fine, let them, its their time and money. They will be the ones with obsolete software as TV's become more widescreeen friendly.
02-13-06 | 11:31 PM
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I work with a guy who has a big screen TV and buys full screen because he cant change the aspect ratio on his TV. He says it looks better on his TV being full screen.
02-19-06 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by joliom
Carrie, Mischief and The Woman in Red are like that. Typically, open matte is not perferrable because even though you're getting more picture, the director was generally focused on framing for the widescreen mattes. So you tend to end up with an image that is not well composed and often reveals a lot of unintentional mistakes (like boom mics, shadows, etc.). A good example of this is in National Lampoon's Vacation when Chevy Chase surprises Beverly DeAngelo in the shower - the open matte version reveals that she is actually showering with her panties on.
In theory I prefer to be a purist but ,in this case, I'm willing to compromise my beliefs.
02-19-06 | 09:45 PM
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Attitudes may be changing.
Over the past year or so, on most of my visits to the video depts of several area Wal Marts, it's usually the WS versions that are sold out or nearly so.
Personally, this is a bit of a bummer. The only thing I regularly buy at Wal Mart is the WS version of the occasional new release I'm interested in, and that's only because they usually (but not always) have the lowest price.
Over the past year or so, on most of my visits to the video depts of several area Wal Marts, it's usually the WS versions that are sold out or nearly so.
Personally, this is a bit of a bummer. The only thing I regularly buy at Wal Mart is the WS version of the occasional new release I'm interested in, and that's only because they usually (but not always) have the lowest price.
