List of movies not released in OAR- your help needed.
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I would also like to see a list of movies that were modified from their OTAR for the DVD release. I think that's what the OP is gathering. If others are on the list that don't fit this category, maybe OP could mark the ones that fit the modified from OTAR category...
I assume he approved because by replacing the mattes for the home version, he restored the Original Theatrical Aspect Ratio (OTAR). A side effect of this is that it can be encoded anamorphically to DVD which increases the resolution by 25-33% (or so).
I assume also that Evil Dead was filmed this way with the intention of showing the 1.85:1 in the theaters and then removing the mattes for VHS to prevent a pan&scan/cropped transfer. Kubrick did it on some of his films, but he made it clear that the shot was composed in the widescreen field and noted to keep the 1.33:1 field clear as well (for an anticipated home release in full screen). Now that widescreen releases are common, this is unnecessary.
Many prefer the OTAR always.
Originally Posted by ScissorPuppy
Anchor Bay's release of The Evil Dead is cropped to create 1.85:1 from a 1.33:1 print. Although I think Sam Rami approved this, not sure why.
I assume also that Evil Dead was filmed this way with the intention of showing the 1.85:1 in the theaters and then removing the mattes for VHS to prevent a pan&scan/cropped transfer. Kubrick did it on some of his films, but he made it clear that the shot was composed in the widescreen field and noted to keep the 1.33:1 field clear as well (for an anticipated home release in full screen). Now that widescreen releases are common, this is unnecessary.
Many prefer the OTAR always.
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Originally Posted by MartinBlank
And as mentioned above, the one I'm most steamed about, Ace Venture: Pet Detective!
Btw, I remember rather...heated...thread about Kubrick's composition; did he compose for 1.33:1 or for 1.85:1? It appears that there is no definitive answer, but after looking at screen shots, I know where I stand.
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Gleaming The Cube (The only all P&S title I own, the rest are Open Matte)
Exit To Eden
Problem Child
Problem Child 2
Caddyshack II
Doc Hollywood
BTW, The Evil Dead was released in Full Frame by Image, though it is OOP.
Exit To Eden
Problem Child
Problem Child 2
Caddyshack II
Doc Hollywood
BTW, The Evil Dead was released in Full Frame by Image, though it is OOP.
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Originally Posted by Egon's Ghost
Holy Testicle Tuesday, ME TOO!!
Btw, I remember rather...heated...thread about Kubrick's composition; did he compose for 1.33:1 or for 1.85:1? It appears that there is no definitive answer, but after looking at screen shots, I know where I stand.
Btw, I remember rather...heated...thread about Kubrick's composition; did he compose for 1.33:1 or for 1.85:1? It appears that there is no definitive answer, but after looking at screen shots, I know where I stand.
Also add Drop Dead Fred and Fright Night Part II to the list.
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Originally Posted by Eric D.
I mean I don't think he intended for the helicopter shadow to be in the majority of the opening shot in The Shining like it is on the DVD.
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Originally Posted by Egon's Ghost
Ah! Interesting. I'll have to relook at that. But look at Full Metal Jacket; to me, that screams "composed in 1.33:1!". Others disagree, of course. We'll have to resurrect that thread.
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On the Kubrick films... it's obvious that he wanted the most resolution utilized on TV monitors in the laserdisc era. He only gave pointers to transfers made during that time. Since laserdisc was relatively low res and non-anamorphic, I think Kubrick rather would let image that would be fine to show to be visible in lieu of black bars.
We can pretty much surmise that he would have been fine with 16x9 DVD's since they're less wasteful than non-anamorphic formats. Do keep in mind that Lolita, Dr. Strangelove, A Clockwork Orange, and Barry Lyndon MUST be shown at 1.66:1. 1.85:1 ends up cropping the bottom of the frame and throws off the compositions.
Actually, the current DVD has the correct framing for either 35mm or 70mm presentations. It's also 2.55:1, not 2.35:1. 2.55:1 is correct for Ultra Panavision films (the widest it could be shown would be 2.60:1 in a Cinerama theater).
The original Image Entertainment DVD is 1.20:1. Still looks great, despite being a 14 year old transfer. It's funny how MK2's HD origin transfer pales in comparison to an NTSC transfer made in 1992.
We can pretty much surmise that he would have been fine with 16x9 DVD's since they're less wasteful than non-anamorphic formats. Do keep in mind that Lolita, Dr. Strangelove, A Clockwork Orange, and Barry Lyndon MUST be shown at 1.66:1. 1.85:1 ends up cropping the bottom of the frame and throws off the compositions.
Originally Posted by GOS
It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World (1963) cropped from 2.76:1 to 2.35:1
Originally Posted by Smithers
City Lights is supposed to be 1.20:1 but is 1.33:1 on dvd
Last edited by PatrickMcCart; 01-24-06 at 10:37 PM.




