Will 1492 be released in my lifetime?
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Will 1492 be released in my lifetime?
Ok- I know this subject has been covered many times before,but I think its time for a 2006 discussion. 1492- CONQUEST OF PARADISE is one of my favorite Ridley Scott films. Could Paramount or someone from Ridley Scotts office explain why this film is having such a hard time finding its way to dvd.
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It might be because the 1992 Columbus's 500th anniversary exploitation films were both hideous. 1492: Conquest of Paradise was awful, not awful like Gladiator was awful in a good way, but awful in a bad way. Then again, 1492 could have been worse. It could have been Christopher Columbus: The Discovery, which was even worse.
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It's available in some other regions if you are region free. I picked up the Brazilian Special Edition of eBay for $20. It has a anamorphic widescreen transfer (although it doesn't look that great) and DD 5.1. It's the best release available. It's good to be region free.
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I would love to have somebody explain to me also, why no region 1 dvd?
1492: Conquest Of Paradise, is hands down my favorite Ridley Scott film. I am outraged that this has not been released by Paramount Pictures on dvd, they hold the rights to it's USA video distribution.
An explanation is needed from Paramount Pictures. I won't waste my time writing them, since this was announced and than pulled from their schedule in 2004.
1492: Conquest Of Paradise, is hands down my favorite Ridley Scott film. I am outraged that this has not been released by Paramount Pictures on dvd, they hold the rights to it's USA video distribution.
An explanation is needed from Paramount Pictures. I won't waste my time writing them, since this was announced and than pulled from their schedule in 2004.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cornell
1492 could have been worse. It could have been Christopher Columbus: The Discovery, which was even worse.
If CC: TD had never been released before 1492, than more than likely 1492 isn't a flop, and a box office hit, and appreciated by many.
It's that film that has left 1492, largely ignored by audiences to a degree.
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Originally Posted by scrotalsac187
It's available in some other regions if you are region free. I picked up the Brazilian Special Edition of eBay for $20. It has a anamorphic widescreen transfer (although it doesn't look that great)
Definitive, this isn't.
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Originally Posted by scrotalsac187
It's available in some other regions if you are region free. I picked up the Brazilian Special Edition of eBay for $20. It has a anamorphic widescreen transfer (although it doesn't look that great) and DD 5.1. It's the best release available. It's good to be region free.
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If CC: TD had never been released before 1492, than more than likely 1492 isn't a flop, and a box office hit, and appreciated by many.
I really wanted to like 1492. It was lovely to look at, but Depardieu was horrendously miscast and the movie so dull I never did make it to the end despite 2 tries. I'm willing to give it another shot if it ever comes to DVD, though.
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It'll be released in a 3-pack with Pink Floyd's Pulse and the Batman 60s TV series.
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Bingo, that's the one I am referring to. I wish there was a scene of this on one of my dvd editions.
People seem to rip on this movie a lot. I love this history and I thought it was a well done version. Of course, there's storyline gaps the size of the Grand Canyon, but I think this is perhaps Scott's best looking movie. But hell, he covered some 30 years of Spanish History and condensed it into 2.5 hours. Kind of like a Cliff's Notes of sorts. But I love the fact there isn't any CGI used in it. It's a very organic looking movie....I think better looking than Gladiator. He somewhat resurrected this look and feel in Kingdom of Heaven.
People seem to rip on this movie a lot. I love this history and I thought it was a well done version. Of course, there's storyline gaps the size of the Grand Canyon, but I think this is perhaps Scott's best looking movie. But hell, he covered some 30 years of Spanish History and condensed it into 2.5 hours. Kind of like a Cliff's Notes of sorts. But I love the fact there isn't any CGI used in it. It's a very organic looking movie....I think better looking than Gladiator. He somewhat resurrected this look and feel in Kingdom of Heaven.
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trespoochies, I couldn't agree more. People, seem to definitly be way to hard on the film.
I hadn't watched 1492 for months now on dvd, since like August or so, and I decided to spin my Japanese dvd version of it this evening. Watching it again makes me want a director's cut really bad. It also makes me scratch my head as to why Paramount has not released this at all on dvd yet. As nice as all the overseas dvd versions are, I would like to see what Paramount could do to improve the video and audio of the film, as well as for extras, improvements can be made over all the other versions made available.
Film lovers, who enjoy this film are getting tired of waiting for a region 1 release.
The thread title says it all.
I hadn't watched 1492 for months now on dvd, since like August or so, and I decided to spin my Japanese dvd version of it this evening. Watching it again makes me want a director's cut really bad. It also makes me scratch my head as to why Paramount has not released this at all on dvd yet. As nice as all the overseas dvd versions are, I would like to see what Paramount could do to improve the video and audio of the film, as well as for extras, improvements can be made over all the other versions made available.
Film lovers, who enjoy this film are getting tired of waiting for a region 1 release.
The thread title says it all.
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Maybe they'll finally get it out in time for the 600th Anniversary of the Columbus travels. So that would give Paramount until 2092 to put something descent out there.....really though, I would be pleased as punch of they did just that, just release the damn movie with cleaned up picture and sound. My little dream would to have this released in DTS-ES...but hey, why invest in something like that. I guess Top Gun is where it begins and ends for that kind of sound.
Another reason why i want Paramount to release this is so that they will HOPEFULLY have the teaser trailer for this - for those who actually remember it. Even then, Paramount themselves had a hard time marketing this one....is it an action flick? Is it a drama? But the teaser had clips of the movie set to Enigma's song Sadness. It was pretty cool. But the second trailer was a real head scratcher. It showed in slo-mo Depardieu hopping off the boat onto the beach and kneeling, but the audio was that of Neil Armstrong's landing on the moon. Yeah, I know the connection, but what a weird way to make an audience go "Hey, now I do want to see that..." Poor Ridley needs to get some way better marketing people, whether at Paramount, or at 20th Century Fox, where they F---ed up Kingdom of Heaven. Not to mention them hacking that movie up just like 1492.
Another reason why i want Paramount to release this is so that they will HOPEFULLY have the teaser trailer for this - for those who actually remember it. Even then, Paramount themselves had a hard time marketing this one....is it an action flick? Is it a drama? But the teaser had clips of the movie set to Enigma's song Sadness. It was pretty cool. But the second trailer was a real head scratcher. It showed in slo-mo Depardieu hopping off the boat onto the beach and kneeling, but the audio was that of Neil Armstrong's landing on the moon. Yeah, I know the connection, but what a weird way to make an audience go "Hey, now I do want to see that..." Poor Ridley needs to get some way better marketing people, whether at Paramount, or at 20th Century Fox, where they F---ed up Kingdom of Heaven. Not to mention them hacking that movie up just like 1492.
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trespoochies, we share some of the same thoughts on everything about this film, and all the good and the bad that has come with it since it's US theatrical release.
I know what trailers you are talking about. I love em' both. I actually thought that the moon landing trailer was a good marketing tool by Paramount, it's a very well done trailer, it works because of the impact that scene has on the viewer, Depardieu jumping out of that boat, a great scene with visions of the coming huge future historical implications obviously of this discovery by the Europeans. A perfect, to the point trailer. The one with the Enigma song was great to, but that moon landing trailer was the bait that made me want to see this at the theater the day of release, and I did.
As for the dvd being released in 2092, that's a good joke I have had dance in my head as well on occasion. The wait for this release has been just that long. We can wait another 100, right?
I have never actually seen Kingdom Of Heaven, so can't comment on it.
I know what trailers you are talking about. I love em' both. I actually thought that the moon landing trailer was a good marketing tool by Paramount, it's a very well done trailer, it works because of the impact that scene has on the viewer, Depardieu jumping out of that boat, a great scene with visions of the coming huge future historical implications obviously of this discovery by the Europeans. A perfect, to the point trailer. The one with the Enigma song was great to, but that moon landing trailer was the bait that made me want to see this at the theater the day of release, and I did.
As for the dvd being released in 2092, that's a good joke I have had dance in my head as well on occasion. The wait for this release has been just that long. We can wait another 100, right?

I have never actually seen Kingdom Of Heaven, so can't comment on it.
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Great....the marketing worked on two people......me and you. Sigh...
Watch Kingdom of Heaven when you can. I think it's well done, although it has a significant amount of CGI, but not as bad as Gladiator. And theere isn't as much assault of accents as 1492. But Kingdom is another one that's dying for the inevitable SE Directors cut soon. I can't help to think 1492 as a decent amount of footage left out. My guess Scott had this one in the neighborhood of 3 hours. Who knows until Paramount gets off their asses. Okay - off the soap box.
Watch Kingdom of Heaven when you can. I think it's well done, although it has a significant amount of CGI, but not as bad as Gladiator. And theere isn't as much assault of accents as 1492. But Kingdom is another one that's dying for the inevitable SE Directors cut soon. I can't help to think 1492 as a decent amount of footage left out. My guess Scott had this one in the neighborhood of 3 hours. Who knows until Paramount gets off their asses. Okay - off the soap box.
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Great....the marketing worked on two people......me and you. Sigh...
Watch Kingdom of Heaven when you can. I think it's well done, although it has a significant amount of CGI, but not as bad as Gladiator. And theere isn't as much assault of accents as 1492. But Kingdom is another one that's dying for the inevitable SE Directors cut soon. I can't help to think 1492 as a decent amount of footage left out. My guess Scott had this one in the neighborhood of 3 hours. Who knows until Paramount gets off their asses. Okay - off the soap box.
Watch Kingdom of Heaven when you can. I think it's well done, although it has a significant amount of CGI, but not as bad as Gladiator. And theere isn't as much assault of accents as 1492. But Kingdom is another one that's dying for the inevitable SE Directors cut soon. I can't help to think 1492 as a decent amount of footage left out. My guess Scott had this one in the neighborhood of 3 hours. Who knows until Paramount gets off their asses. Okay - off the soap box.
well if Paramount doesn't even the include the slightly expanded International cut of the film - they are morons.
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A high-definition version of 1492 was in rotation on HDNet Movies last year. Might be worth keeping an eye on their schedule to see if it pops up again.
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A high-definition version of 1492 was in rotation on HDNet Movies last year. Might be worth keeping an eye on their schedule to see if it pops up again.
So can someone please explain why and HOW HDNet can do this? Are they cleaning the movies up themselves??? Maybe they should start releasing dvd's of these movies.
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trespoochies, I will have to checkout Kingdom Of Heaven sometime. Will probably wait for a Directors Cut of the film. Agreed, Paramount could use the US theatrical version, and digitally re-master those scenes included in the International cut.
I also was aware that 1492 was playing in Hi-Def on HDnet movies. I am sure that master would blow to shreds any dvd version ever released, anytime, anyplace, anywhere. So, is there a legal way for Paramount to use that master for a DVD, or HD-DVD and Blu-Ray?
Or, are they going to make us wait 100 years for the Columbus 600th anniversary edition of 1492 on a future media format.
C'mon Paramount.
I also was aware that 1492 was playing in Hi-Def on HDnet movies. I am sure that master would blow to shreds any dvd version ever released, anytime, anyplace, anywhere. So, is there a legal way for Paramount to use that master for a DVD, or HD-DVD and Blu-Ray?
Or, are they going to make us wait 100 years for the Columbus 600th anniversary edition of 1492 on a future media format.
C'mon Paramount.
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So can someone please explain why and HOW HDNet can do this? Are they cleaning the movies up themselves??? Maybe they should start releasing dvd's of these movies.
So, the good news is that HD transfers for both of these films have been mastered and are available. The bad news is that it's a matter of corporate politics when (if ever) they'll be released on home video.
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and even looking at the movies HDnet broadcasts in Hidef makes the mouth water - I would love to see (or own for that matter) My Fair Lady in hidefinition.
http://www.hd.net/index.html
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cornell
It might be because the 1992 Columbus's 500th anniversary exploitation films were both hideous. 1492: Conquest of Paradise was awful, not awful like Gladiator was awful in a good way, but awful in a bad way. Then again, 1492 could have been worse. It could have been Christopher Columbus: The Discovery, which was even worse.




