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Old 04-11-07 | 12:00 PM
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The 4 Horsemen documentary was AWESOME!!
Haven't seen it yet, but I put in disk 2 to see how long some of the matches were and I got to say that it's so nice they FINALLY changed that "bodies have been broken..." psa!
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Old 04-11-07 | 12:31 PM
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In the documentary on the Horseman DVD, do they actually show that clip of the nWo with Rodman, Savage, Syxx, Hall, Nash and Hogan that they have been showing on the trailer? That two second clip alone, will make me happy I own the DVD…
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Old 04-11-07 | 01:39 PM
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The only thing I didn't like about the documentary was that it was 1/2 kayfabe, 1/2 not.
Only Anderson's comments were kayfabe. All others talk outside of
their wrestling characters. I'm guessing Arn just didn't want to.
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Old 04-11-07 | 02:22 PM
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Yeah Arn still hasn't gotten the memo that not breaking kayfabe went out of style a long time ago. I watched the first hour or so last night (up to the Paul Roma comments) and it is fantastic! It was great to see so many promos and clips I had not seen since they originally aired.
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Old 04-11-07 | 02:28 PM
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Even tho Arn put in a little bit of its real crap in, Still it felt like the way he was talking it could be so real. I loved the Bio and the DVD is great, I'll watch the extra's tonight.
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Old 04-11-07 | 04:10 PM
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Excellent doc on the Horsemen. Only negative to me was Flair ALMOST spilling who The Black Scorpion was supposed to be. After sitting through that trash in 1990 I would like to finally know who it was really supposed to be.
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Old 04-11-07 | 04:13 PM
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Excellent doc on the Horsemen. Only negative to me was Flair ALMOST spilling who The Black Scorpion was supposed to be. After sitting through that trash in 1990 I would like to finally know who it was really supposed to be.
Didn't Flair say who it was supposed to be in his book? I don't remember off the top of my head, but I don't remember it being that big of a deal, maybe somebody else remembers.
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Old 04-11-07 | 05:06 PM
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Didn't Flair say who it was supposed to be in his book? I don't remember off the top of my head, but I don't remember it being that big of a deal, maybe somebody else remembers.
The Black Scorpion was originally supposed to be a guy named Al Perez. When he backed out, Ole had no idea what to do and finally they went to Flair.
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Old 04-11-07 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by robsul82
The Black Scorpion was originally supposed to be a guy named Al Perez. When he backed out, Ole had no idea what to do and finally they went to Flair.
Actually perez played the part of the black scorpion for the most part and wrestled sting at the clash. I don't think he was meant to be the guy from sting's past in the storyline. It's rumored that it was suppose to be anyone from ultimate warrior to lex luger to the great muta.
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Old 04-11-07 | 06:12 PM
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Ole once said on a radio show if Flair was walking in front of him down the stairs he would push him. Talk about bitter.
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Old 04-11-07 | 06:28 PM
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I'm excited about picking the Horsemen DVD up.....too bad about Arn. His shoot interview was one of the biggest disappointments.....as he kayfabes through the whole thing.....and when the interviewer asked Arn if he was sad kayfabe was dead, Arn looked disappointed and told him to cut that out.
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Old 04-11-07 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Leechboy
here is a pic of my WWF/E dvd collection.


I have almost every dvd released. No Way Out 07 and the Royal Rumble box are currently on my coffee table.

AFAIK the only dvds I am missing are...
WWF: The Attitude Collection: The Best of Raw Volume 1 (just bought off of ebay.)
WWF: The Attitude Collection: The Best of Wrestlemania 1-14
WWF: Best of 2001 Viewers Choice

WWE: Judgment Day 2002 Sony Version (I have the Canadian Koch version)
WWE: Vengeance 2002 Sony Version (Koch Again)
WWE: Trish Stratus 100% Stratusfaction: Special Collector's Edition
WWE: Raw Homecoming 2005
WWE: Wrestlemania Anthology (I refuse to buy crappy flipper discs)


Maybe I will post pics of my UFC/Pride FC collection and TNA collection later.
i would love to see your UFC/Pride FC and TNA collections!
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Old 04-11-07 | 10:07 PM
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i would love to see your UFC/Pride FC and TNA collections!
I just bought a new dvd rack to hold my MMA and TNA discs. The pictured rack will be all WWE from now on. I plan on reorganizing it on Saturday. Look for pics Saturday night.
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Old 04-12-07 | 07:29 AM
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I remember one of the Black Scorpions was Angel of Death who had some connection to Sting's past. I don't remember exactly what it was but he may have been part of the 4 man group Sting & the Ultimate Warrior started out in. It might have been Power Team USA, this is before they broke off and became the Blade Runners.

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Old 04-12-07 | 07:33 AM
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I found this on Wikipedia. They don't talk about the Black Scorpion angle but I am pretty sure it was supposed to be the Angel of Death as the man from Sting's past that was trying to destroy him.

Powerteam USA were a short lived group of four bodybuilders turned wrestlers in the California wrestling territories in late 1985.

The members of the group included Steve Borden, who would later gain success under the moniker of Sting, Jim Hellwig, who would later gain success as (The Ultimate) Warrior, David Sheldon, later known as The Angel of Death, and Mark Miller. They were trained by Red Bastien and Rick Bassman, who would also be their manager. Perceived as having no savvy for the business, they were disbanded as a team later the proceeding year. However, Borden and Hellwig, known as Flash and Justice respectively, were impressive enough to promoter Bill Watts to continue their careers in his UWF territory. Sheldon would eventually follow them as well. Miller ended up retiring from wrestling for good. Manager Bassman would eventually become a wrestler and a successful wrestling and Mixed Martial Arts promoter in California.

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Old 04-12-07 | 08:12 AM
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Wasn't The Angel of Death one of the idiots that actually came out during Starrcade 90? I thought I remember him being one of the ones that got beat up.
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Old 04-12-07 | 08:54 AM
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I would have to check my disc to be sure but I believe you are correct.

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Old 04-12-07 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Phineas444
Wasn't The Angel of Death one of the idiots that actually came out during Starrcade 90? I thought I remember him being one of the ones that got beat up.
I know The Angel Of Death was wrestling in Bill Watts' old UWF before he sold out to Jim Crockett Promotions. Sting was there at that time in a heel stable managed by "Hot Stuff" Eddie Gilbert and Missy Hyatt along with Rick Steiner, John Tatum and Ultimate Warrior (then known as Bladerunner Rock). I don't remember if The Angel Of Death was ever managed by Eddie Gilbert, but I do remember him being managed by Skandar Akbar in Devastation Inc. This would have been some time around 1986 and 1987.
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Old 04-12-07 | 02:32 PM
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I seem to recall Ultimate Warrior being in World Class Championship Wrestling at some point as "Dingo Warrior." Does that ring true for anyone else?

Also: wasn't there some point in time when people were saying that there was more than one Ultimate Warrior...Jim Hellwig at some point and then someone later on. Not that I believe that...if anything, there were two different guys as one was named Jim Hellwig who later legally changed his name to Warrior. Yeesh....
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Old 04-12-07 | 03:00 PM
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I seem to recall Ultimate Warrior being in World Class Championship Wrestling at some point as "Dingo Warrior." Does that ring true for anyone else?
Yes he was definitely there as the Dingo Warrior in 1986. If I recall correctly it was for a brief period during the Summer and Fall of that year.
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Old 04-12-07 | 05:34 PM
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Can someone tell me why on the Wrestlemania Anthologies DVDs, speaking specifically about Wrestlemania 10 and 16, the matches featuring the Undertaker are not included in the set?
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Old 04-12-07 | 05:44 PM
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Can someone tell me why on the Wrestlemania Anthologies DVDs, speaking specifically about Wrestlemania 10 and 16, the matches featuring the Undertaker are not included in the set?
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He didn't have matches at those WrestleManias.
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Old 04-12-07 | 05:52 PM
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Ok, I did not follow wrestling at all during those years. But what about the match that was highlighted in the 15-0 streak where he fought Big Boss Man in what looked like a steal cage or a hell in a cell match?
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Old 04-12-07 | 06:04 PM
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Ok, I did not follow wrestling at all during those years. But what about the match that was highlighted in the 15-0 streak where he fought Big Boss Man in what looked like a steal cage or a hell in a cell match?
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that one should be on the Wrestlemania XV disc
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Old 04-12-07 | 06:06 PM
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You are right thank you for the information
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