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GrimTangent 11-06-05 08:05 PM

IMDb says that this movie has one of the shortest average shot lengths (around 1.8 seconds i think). I watched some of the movie on tv after reading that and found it really distracting. Does anyone else think it detracts from the film, even if only a bit? Or was this done for some kind of effect that I'm missing?
I hope this doesn't sound like I'm bashing the movie. What I've seen of it makes me think it's an awesome movie.

theneobez 11-06-05 09:02 PM

I'm really looking forward to this director's cut. Dark City is definitely one of my favorite films, and though the current dvd is excellent, I would love to see a longer version.

ReduxGuy 11-06-05 11:39 PM

The Director's Cut will be great. A 16x9 transfer and a DTS-ES track will make it a marvel.

Julie Walker 11-07-05 12:44 AM

The current release is 16.9 enhanced despite not saying so on the packaging:)

I was alittle worried at first when I bought it,since I noticed that aspect missing from the pacakge. But putting it into my widescreen laptop revealed it to be 16.9 enhanced!


Now if only NL would release the superior extended version of The Lawnmower Man!

Fincher Fan 11-07-05 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by ShagMan
She's in the same exact shot, in three seperate movies: Dark City, Requiem for a Dream, and House of Sand and Fog.

It's in her contract.

odyas 11-07-05 08:21 AM

It's been ages since i last watch Dark City, why the hating of the opening narration? What it says anyway? Can't remember.

Squirrel God 11-07-05 08:56 AM

I'll laugh if it was just a typo in the article :D

bunkaroo 11-07-05 11:39 AM


For some (and apparently, coincidental) reason, directors love to film Jen on a dock or pier.
Too bad directors couldn't find a way to film her topless in every film. :D

Numes 11-07-05 11:50 AM

Cool. I was quite happy with the existing release, but I will double dip on this one for sure. Hopefully it will also be $4.99 (or whatever I paid for the existing one).

Heartagram 11-07-05 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by GrimTangent
IMDb says that this movie has one of the shortest average shot lengths (around 1.8 seconds i think). I watched some of the movie on tv after reading that and found it really distracting. Does anyone else think it detracts from the film, even if only a bit? Or was this done for some kind of effect that I'm missing?

I think it is explained in the commentary, that it is too give you a feeling like Murdoch, of not knowing what is really going on.

RocShemp 11-07-05 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by Filmmaker
I'd consider that a guarantee.

I certainly hope so as I always keep my receiver on mute until the narration is over.

Josh Z 11-07-05 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by RocShemp
I certainly hope so as I always keep my receiver on mute until the narration is over.

Then you can't heard the music either.

Josh Z 11-07-05 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by odyas
It's been ages since i last watch Dark City, why the hating of the opening narration? What it says anyway? Can't remember.

Kiefer Sutherland's character delivers it. It's not really as bad as people make it out to be. The biggest complaint is that it simply gives away too much information right at the start of the movie, information that it would be better to learn as the main character does.

RocShemp 11-08-05 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by Josh Z
Then you can't heard the music either.

Yeah but I know the opening score by memory so it's no biggie. Besides, the music doesn't really begin to swell much until Keifer Sutherland opens his pocket watch (the exact moment I put the sound back on).


Originally Posted by Josh Z
Kiefer Sutherland's character delivers it. It's not really as bad as people make it out to be. The biggest complaint is that it simply gives away too much information right at the start of the movie, information that it would be better to learn as the main character does.

It may not be a film-ruining addition but it does hurt the transition of the film from noir to sci-fi that occurs at the 30 minute mark. Also, the opening narration is a more detailed version of Keifer Sutherland's explanation during the boat ride. It just gives away far too much and totally defeats the purpose of editing the early portions of the films with super quick takes and quick scene progressions that are meant to leave you as lost as John Murdock.

Legolas 11-08-05 01:15 AM

Dark City was a super-loaded DVD back in the day. What are the chances that a lot of the stuff on the first disc will be left off the DC?

Josh Z 11-08-05 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Legolas
Dark City was a super-loaded DVD back in the day. What are the chances that a lot of the stuff on the first disc will be left off the DC?

For its day, the DVD may have been considered "loaded", but there really isn't very much on it aside from the two commentaries. There's some text essays, a little bit of production notes, a trailer, and a stupid interactive game that doesn't even work on most DVD players. That's it.

mdc3000 11-08-05 08:06 AM

I would absolutely double dip on this one. A great and underrated film, can't wait to see what New Line has in store for this one.

MATT

RocShemp 11-08-05 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Josh Z
For its day, the DVD may have been considered "loaded", but there really isn't very much on it aside from the two commentaries. There's some text essays, a little bit of production notes, a trailer, and a stupid interactive game that doesn't even work on most DVD players. That's it.

Wholeheartedly agree.

I just hope no one tossed out any behind the scenes footage that would be a great addition to a new release. Those sets were massive and I'd love to see and hear about how they were built and moved around for the city transformation scenes.

steebo777 11-08-05 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by mdc3000
I would absolutely double dip on this one. A great and underrated film, can't wait to see what New Line has in store for this one.

MATT

Same here man.

Dr. DVD 11-08-05 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Josh Z
Kiefer Sutherland's character delivers it. It's not really as bad as people make it out to be. The biggest complaint is that it simply gives away too much information right at the start of the movie, information that it would be better to learn as the main character does.


I agree with that, but I don't know about this release. If I want the movie w/o Kiefer's narration, I just mute it for the first minute or so. I saw this movie in the theaters, and loved it. When a friend later mentioned how this movie might have been w/o the opening narration, I realized it could have been a superb movie.

Scott Weinberg 11-08-05 04:52 PM

Apparently one of JoBlo's readers saw Dark City at a pre-release test screening, and he remembers some major differences between that cut and the theatrical version:


1. There was no opening scroll with Kiefer Sutherland's VO telling you about the aliens and how they had been watching us. The film just put you into the environment. We had no idea of time and place or that any "alien" was watching the human characters. We discovered these things slowly as the film developed. This change had a major impact on the whole film, because without that lame VO and scroll, you have no idea what kind of world the story is taking place in. Is this a comic book world? A period piece? A fantasy? Then when you discovered the answers, it packed a powerful punch. It was hands down one of the biggest Wow's I had at the movies ever.

2. The editing style had completely changed! The film originally played out it's scenes in a more Kubrick like fashion. The version I saw a year later was cut like a Michael Bay movie. I distinctly remember a scene where Jennifer Connelly and Rufus Sewell are having a conversation in a room. Originally, it was a wide master shot and two close ups. The pace was slow, methodical, but never boring. The tone was mysterious and engrossing. Suddenly, in the new version, this scene was harshly edited with 1 - 2 second cuts between the actors. THEY WERE JUST TALKING FOR GOD'S SAKES. Clearly, someone felt the pace was too slow, so they had to SPEED UP the tempo of the scenes. I found it intrusive.

3. The music, like the editing had changed. Now the cut I saw might have had a temp track, but the style was mysterious and outer worldly. The new cut was more pulsating, loud and clangy. Again, it seemed like they were trying to speed things up. Never mind that this loud clangy soundtrack was pounding during mere conversations.

4. In the first cut, the aliens themselves were like little scorpions when they left the humanoid shells. They were a more physical effect. Either stop motion, or puppets. Perhaps they were temporary effects, but they looked much better than the glowy MORTAL KOMBAT video game things that flew out of their bodies in the current version. The original creatures were goopy and real. The later ones were as you remember, a computery looking effect.
Check the link for a little more info......

Josh Z 11-08-05 06:56 PM

I'd take that JoBlo article with a grain of salt. Judging by the machine-gun editing in The Crow, I have a feeling the theatrical version is exactly the way Proyas always intended Dark City to be cut.

dx23 11-13-05 09:59 AM

Roger Ebert gives a little more news regarding the commentary on the upcoming Director's Cut release on his latest bi-weekly column:


Q. I applaud your recent addition of Alex Proyas' "Dark City" to your Great Movies collection. I saw the film for the first time when I was 14, and it changed my conception of what science fiction films could do. Yet my uncle, a true cinephile, assured me that it was a rehash of the superior "Blade Runner" and would be forgotten in 10 years. It has been seven years since I had that conversation. Has the film left any lasting imprint on the cinema yet in your mind?

Paul Babin, Yarmouthport, Mass.

A. After being missed by many moviegoers in its original release, "Dark City" has become a best-seller on DVD and developed a large and devoted following (see recent discussions at the blog Cinematical.com). Proyas is working on a new director's cut to be released in early 2006; I will expand my commentary from the original DVD to reflect the changes. Tell your uncle the movie stands on its own and is not a rehash of anything -- but that I feel I may have undervalued "Blade Runner." "Dark City" helped me appreciate the values of the earlier film.
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...gory=ANSWERMAN

sherm42 12-04-05 12:49 PM

Wow. Ebert has always been very dismissive of Blade Runner. It is a bit refreshing that he would finally admit that Blade Runner was a very influential Sci-Fi film.

Julie Walker 12-04-05 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Josh Z
I'd take that JoBlo article with a grain of salt. Judging by the machine-gun editing in The Crow, I have a feeling the theatrical version is exactly the way Proyas always intended Dark City to be cut.


I would agree. The person who posted those comments must have seen a workprint/rough cut of the film at best.


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