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jpfisher 10-09-05 11:17 AM

Groucho's killing me! It's ok, I can stand to lose to Kurosawa and Leone... but man, I am not a Michael Mann fan on any level. :(

Anyway --

1 - Kocheese99
2 - Franchot
3 - Cleaver
4 - jfrost
5 - The Ferret
6 - Count de Monet
7 - Mrs. Nesbit
8 - darkhawk
9 - jpfisher (I totally would have voted for Groucho if he had voted for me :) )
10 - illennium
11 - LBCrazyFool
12 - ryuryu2949
13 - Atreus
14 - arsmith7
15 - Cathespin

LBCrazyFool 10-09-05 12:34 PM

1. TylerDurden_73
2. Franchot
3. Cleaver
4. jfrost
5. The Ferret
6. Count de Monet
7. Mrs. Nesbit
8. darkhawk
9. Groucho
10. kylerayner
11. LBCrazyFool
12. ryuryu2949
13. Sweet Baby James
14. ViewAskewbian
15. mdc3000

Toben 10-09-05 01:08 PM

1. Kocheese99
2. TNAJason
3. Cleaver
4. exharrison
5. Damfino
6. Identify
7. Mrs.Nesbit
8. Toben
9. Groucho
10. kylerayner
11. DJ_Longfellow
12. mbs
13. Atreus
14. arsmith7
15. Cathepsin

Count de Monet 10-09-05 07:07 PM

There are some really great selections in this round, so it was incredibly difficult to pick some of these. Everyone has at least one or two "must haves" that I would have been proud to have included on my own team. Having said that...

1. TylerDurden_73
2. Franchot
3. das Monkey (because I have a soft spot for underdogs facing overwhelming odds!) :)
4. jfrost
5. The Ferret
6. Identify
7. chemosh6969
8. Toben
9. jpfisher
10. kylerayner
11. LBCrazyFool
12. mbs
13. Sweet Baby James
14. arsmith7
15. Cathespin

wewantflair 10-09-05 07:31 PM

1.Kocheese99
2.Franchot
3.Cleaver
4.jfrost
5.The Ferrit
6.Count de Monet
7.Mrs. Nesbit
8.darkhawk
9.jpfisher
10.kylerayner
11.DJ_Longfellow
12.ryuryu2949
13.Sweet Baby James
14.arsmith7
15.mdc3000

ryuryu2949 10-09-05 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by cleaver
12. ryuryu2949 - I was looking at 7 out of 10 of this guys picks the round he took them. Spielberg, Hitchcock, Scorsese, Kubrick, and Ridley Scott are represented by their opi, arguably. Not to mention John Woo and Ken Burns, definitely. Trainspotting and The Killer could be the 2 most rewatchable foreign films for me of all time. So how the hell is this guy losing?

Cleaver, thanks for your kind words with regard to my collection. I too am amazed that I am currently trailing in my round with mbs (pairing 12). I mean, let us take the easy comparisons. First, the tv picks, Lost vs. Civil War. Now, Lost is a highly enjoyable show, but it is just so... new. I am curious to see how Lost will hold up after 10+ years. The Civil War on the other hand, pretty much redefined historical documentary filmaking. It sets the standard.

Next, the box set picks. Some good films in the Controversial Classics set, but it just can't hold a candle to the wonderful WB Hitchcok set. For those who may not know, the Hitchock Signature Collection includes: Strangers on a Train Two-Disc Edition / North by Northwest / Dial M for Murder / Foreign Correspondent / Suspicion / The Wrong Man / Stage Fright / I Confess / Mr. and Mrs. Smith. With the exception of North by Northwest, all of the other films were released with new editions/transfers for this collection. The 2-disc Strangers on a Train also some wonderful extras.

As for the remaining picks, I have what is most often thought of the most in-demand OOP Criterion (The Killer), A Kubrick masterpiece with wonderful extras (Spartacus), a loaded edition of Trainspotting, and perhaps the two most-requested dvds before they were released (the Goodfellas special edition and Schindler's List). In short, I think my collection is classy, has loads of special features, and is diverse in directing and acting style, genre, and time period (how many other collections, have films from the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, AND 90s?).

I won't go into too much depth with my criticism of mbs' collection (although Heat, Eternal Sunshine, and American Psycho are good picks), but I just want to note that there are serious picture quality issues with his edition of Brotherhood of the Wolf, and that, imho, Amelie could be the most overrated film of the past 5 or 10 years.

Lokimok 10-10-05 12:51 AM

1. Kocheese99
2. Franchot
3. Cleaver
4. jfrost
5. Damfino
6. Count de Monet
7. chemosh6969
8. Toben
9. jpfisher
10. illennium
11. LBCrazyFool
12. ryuryu2949
13. Sweet Baby James
14. arsmith7
15. Cathepsin

Damfino 10-10-05 01:20 AM

1. Kocheese99
2. TNAJason
3. das Monkey
4. jfrost
5. Damfino
6. Count de Monet
7. Mrs.Nesbit
8. darkhawk
9. Groucho
10. illennium
11. LBCrazyFool
12. mbs
13. Sweet Baby James
14. ViewAskewbian
15. mdc3000

ViewAskewbian 10-10-05 08:54 AM

Looks like I'm out in Round 1: Congrats arsmith7. :)

arsmith7 10-10-05 08:58 AM

ViewAskew - thanks, still a few hours to mount a comeback though. Your collection was one of the best in the competition and I wasn't sure how well I would hold up.

ryuryu2949 10-10-05 09:04 AM

1.Kocheese99's Collection
2. Franchot's Collection
3. Cleaver's Collection (one of the favorites)
4. jfrost's Collection (one of the favorites)
5. The Ferret'sCollection (one of the favorites)
6. Count de Monet's Collection
7. Mrs.Nesbit's Collection
8.Tobens Collection (very close)
9.Groucho's Collection
10. illennium's Collection (no offense, but weakest mathcup)
11. LBCrazyFool's Collection
12. ryuryu2949's Collection (I still cannot believe I am losing to THIS collection)
13. Sweet Baby James' Collection
14. arsmith7's Collection (one of the favorites)
15. mdc's Collection

mbs 10-10-05 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by ryuryu2949
(how many other collections, have films from the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, AND 90s?).

Actually, your competitor does. ;) In addition, I have films from the 30s and 00s. Not that the year of a film being released has anything to do with this competition, but I did want to address this point.


Originally Posted by ryuryu2949
I won't go into too much depth with my criticism of mbs' collection (although Heat, Eternal Sunshine, and American Psycho are good picks), but I just want to note that there are serious picture quality issues with his edition of Brotherhood of the Wolf, and that, imho, Amelie could be the most overrated film of the past 5 or 10 years.

I am not sure what video defects you are mentioning in the Brotherhood of the Wolf release (3-disc SE). I don't have the most amazing HT setup, but I have never noticed any issue with these discs (aside from being simply amazing). In fact, the DVDTalk review (link review for this release also mentions nothing in this regard. I've never seen the 1-Disc release, perhaps this is what you are thinking of?

While you may consider Amelie overrated, many do not (hence why it is generally so highly regarded). I think Amelie is a terribly fine film which I enjoyed greatly. In addition, the DVD release is supurb and loaded with extras and great PQ.

ryuryu2949, I think you have a great collection and don't feel the need to trash any of your selections. But I did want to come to the defense of my collection.

ryuryu2949 10-10-05 09:30 AM

It is well documented that the American 1-disc Brotherhood has a much better transfer than the 3-disc Canadian edition.And now that you mention it, I must have a '30s film in my Hitchcock collection (but you are right, I dont have a '00 disc).

Good luck if you hold on to win in the next 30 minutes (an unfortunate, but likely prospect). This was nothing personal, and you responded to my posts with class, but I really can't believe this is happening to my collection.

ryuryu2949 10-10-05 10:00 AM

Actually, we have over 6 hours left in the voting. Anything can happen!!!

bender001001 10-10-05 10:20 AM

1. TylerDurden_73
2. Franchot
3. Cleaver
4. jfrost
5. The Ferret
6. Identify
7. Mrs.Nesbit
8. darkhawk
9. illennium
10. Groucho
11. DJ_Longfellow
12. mbs
13. Sweet Baby James
14. ViewAskewbian
15. mdc3000

arsmith7 10-10-05 11:03 AM

Is the second round going to be made from bracket-like format? AKA winner of 1 plays winner of 2... winner of 15 plays the Bye...

Or is it just randomly drawn again?

DJ_Longfellow 10-10-05 11:16 AM

1. TylerDurden_73
2. TNAJason
3. das Monkey
4. jfrost
5. Damfino
6. Identify
7. Mrs.Nesbit
8. Toben
9. jpfisher
10. kylerayner
11. DJ_Longfellow
12. mbs
13. Sweet Baby James
14. arsmith7
15. Cathepsin

Atreus 10-10-05 11:19 AM

1. TylerDurden_73
2. Franchot
3. Cleaver
4. jfrost
5. Damfino
6.Count de Monet
7. Mrs.Nesbit
8. Toben
9. Groucho
10. illennium
11. LBCrazyFool
12. ryuryu2949
13. Atreus (this was a tough choice)
14. arsmith7
15. Cathepsin

ViewAskewbian 10-10-05 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by arsmith7
ViewAskew - thanks, still a few hours to mount a comeback though. Your collection was one of the best in the competition and I wasn't sure how well I would hold up.

Thanks. When I saw your entire colletion before the rounds began I thought: "Shit, I hope I don't get matched up with this guy." Drat! :p

ryuryu2949 10-10-05 01:45 PM

any new action?

Stormbull 10-10-05 01:53 PM

1. Kocheese99
2. Franchot
3. Cleaver
4. jfrost
5. The Ferret
6. Count de Monet
7. Mrs.Nesbit
8. Toben
9. Groucho
10. illennium
11. LBCrazyFool
12. ryuryu2949
13. Sweet Baby James (close!)
14. arsmith7
15. mdc3000 (again close!)

ryuryu2949 10-10-05 02:11 PM

Right now I am down 23-18 by my count. So I need 5 more votes. Cmon everyone, don't you want to vote for Scorcese (Goodfellas), Kubrick (Spartacus), Spielberg (Schindler's List), and Hitchcock (Signature Collection including North by Northwest)???

mbs 10-10-05 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by ryuryu2949
Right now I am down 23-18 by my count. So I need 5 more votes. Cmon everyone, don't you want to vote for Scorcese (Goodfellas), Kubrick (Spartacus), Spielberg (Schindler's List), and Hitchcock (Signature Collection including North by Northwest)???

Hopefully instead they will vote for David Lean (Bridge on River Kwai), Robert Altman (Short Cuts), David Lynch (Eraserhead), Fritz Lang (Fury - in Controversial Classics set), and Elia Kazan (A Face in the Crowd - in Controversial Classics set.

ryuryu2949 10-10-05 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by mbs
Hopefully instead they will vote for David Lean (Bridge on River Kwai), Robert Altman (Short Cuts), David Lynch (Eraserhead), Fritz Lang (Fury - in Controversial Classics set), and Elia Kazan (A Face in the Crowd - in Controversial Classics set.

Yea, you could see films from these directors that, except possibly for Shortcuts, are "secondary films" and not really in the discussion as to whether they are the director's true masterpiece. With my collection, you could make a good case that Goodfellas, The Killer, North by Northwest, Schindler's List, and Alien are that particular director's top films. Please, try and tell me that Bridge is better than Lawrence, or that A Face in the Crowd rivals On the Waterfront. You won't because you can't.

Count de Monet 10-10-05 02:41 PM

Do DVD Talk Drafts usually get this ugly so early on? Or is this part of the "fun"?

exharrison 10-10-05 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Count de Monet
Do DVD Talk Drafts usually get this ugly so early on? Or is this part of the "fun"?

This one seems to be a bit harsher in the first round than the last, but its still all in good fun(I sure hope so anyway). Sometimes the voters can come off harsher than the campaigners.

das Monkey 10-10-05 02:58 PM

Fun, my ass. I take this shit seriously and am most disappointed at the conspiracy to eliminate me early. Everyone knows I'm the front-runner, so they gang up on me early to avoid the competition, like voting off the strongest guy in <i>Survivor</i>. At least a few of you still have your integrity.

das

mbs 10-10-05 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by ryuryu2949
Please, try and tell me that Bridge is better than Lawrence, or that A Face in the Crowd rivals On the Waterfront. You won't because you can't.

I prefer "Bridge" to "Lawrence", but certainly yield on the Kazan films. However, as a member of the Controversial Classics set, A Face in the Crowd certainly brings a lot to the table. It also includes a great documentary on some of the controversary surrounding Kazan.

I think you might do better by promoting your collection versus attempting to disclaim mine. It seems that despite your disbelief the voters like my colleciton, so perhaps concentrating on your own collection is the way to go. As I said before, I'm not going disparage your entry (because, in part, it would probably be hard to do so).

jfrost 10-10-05 03:09 PM

Round 2 will start tomorrow AM... making the final vote span over the upcoming weekend.

mbs 10-10-05 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by jfrost
Round 2 will start tomorrow AM... making the final vote span over the upcoming weekend.

Does that mean Round 2 goes until then?

jfrost 10-10-05 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by mbs
Does that mean Round 2 goes until then?

Round one will end today at 5:30 EST. Round two will run from tomorrow at 11:00 EST, adn will run for 24 hours. This will continue until we are down to 2 remaining collections, which will battle from Friday @ 11 EST until Monday @ 11 EST.

rkndkn 10-10-05 04:00 PM

1. Kocheese99
2. TNAJason
3. Cleaver
4. jfrost
5. Damfino
6. Identify
7. Mrs. Nesbit
8. Toben
9. jpfisher
10. illennium
11. LBCrazyFool
12. mbs
13. Sweet Baby James
14. arsmith7
15. mdc3000

illennium 10-10-05 04:13 PM

I think I'm down around 2 votes right now... I don't mind if I lose, since my opponent has an excellent collection, but if anyone wants to help with a come-from-behind last-minute victory (or, alternatively, bury me for good), now's your chance.

cleaver 10-10-05 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by ryuryu2949
Yea, you could see films from these directors that, except possibly for Shortcuts, are "secondary films" and not really in the discussion as to whether they are the director's true masterpiece. With my collection, you could make a good case that Goodfellas, The Killer, North by Northwest, Schindler's List, and Alien are that particular director's top films. Please, try and tell me that Bridge is better than Lawrence, or that A Face in the Crowd rivals On the Waterfront. You won't because you can't.

I drafted Lawrence of Arabia and I like Bridge on the River Kwai better. Nothing else Woo has done can touch The Killer, though. I don't think you need a qualifier for that.

arsmith7 10-10-05 05:31 PM

official buzzer gone off yet?

Identify 10-10-05 06:20 PM

I just wanted to thank everyone who voted for me!

TNAJason 10-10-05 06:46 PM

Okay I have a little explanation.
This is the DVDTalk DVD Draft Game is it not? Sure Predator 2 & Fly 2 aren't the greatest movies(I like them,but) But the point is the DVD DRAFT GAME. So I drafted 2 solid DVDs. But congrats Franchot!

Count de Monet 10-10-05 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Identify
I just wanted to thank everyone who voted for me!

You're welcome! :consume:

TNAJason 10-10-05 06:56 PM

The edit button isn't showing up,but I too,would like to thank everybody who voted for me. Thank you all and "Bang Bang"(Wait wrong Foley saying) "Have a Nice Day!"

mbs 10-10-05 07:16 PM

Good matchup & discussions, ryuryu2949.

And thanks to all who voted (both for me & against)! On to round 2...


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