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Brent L 09-29-05 03:02 PM

Rare DVDs, both in print and OOP, that you've never seen before in person?
 
I'll get the obvious one out of the way, and say that I've never seen the Salo Criterion Collection DVD. I've seen it on eBay of course, but I never saw it in a store. I've also never seen The Red Desert DVD release before.

A while back, before the latest release of Ghostbusers and Ghostbusters II I could have sworn that a two pack, or a single disc release with both of the films in one package, was released. Did that ever happen or am I just crazy?

I've also been looking for The Return, but I can't find it anywhere other than online. The people at Best Buy told me they don't even have it in their in-store system anymore.

OldBoy 09-29-05 03:43 PM

i don't get it...

jpfisher 09-29-05 04:00 PM

I see Salo on my bookshelf every night. I'll never see the $400 I spent on it again, though.

I did at one point, back in '99 or so, hold a copy of it in my hands at Suncoast while looking through the foreign films section....

Actually the only OOP Criterion I don't currently have (not counting titles that have been reissued in newer, better versions) is Playtime... but I'm not dropping $100 on a title that they have plans to rerelease in the not too distant future.

I think the only other rare titles I have in my collection are Double Indemnity and The 47 Ronin Parts I & II, although the latter is out on loan to a friend and I suspect that he may have lost it (considering it's been on loan for two years now!)

-- Jim

Filmmaker 09-29-05 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by BrentLumkin
A while back, before the latest release of Ghostbusers and Ghostbusters II I could have sworn that a two pack, or a single disc release with both of the films in one package, was released. Did that ever happen or am I just crazy?

You are not crazy--the original GHOSTBUSTERS: Collector's Series and GHOSTBUSTERS 2 DVDs were offered as a two-pack back in the day.

gryffinmaster 09-29-05 05:45 PM

Nope, not crazy at all. I look at that Ghosbusters 2-pack every time I look at my G row of DVDs. Considered double dipping fo the new, nice GB2 set, but that idea kinda faded. :)

Cameron 09-30-05 01:32 AM

two years is not a loan...thats thing is stolen...

Al_Tahoe 09-30-05 02:05 AM

Rare DVDs, both in print and OOP, that you've never seen before in person?



Originally Posted by jpfisher
I see Salo on my bookshelf every night. I'll never see the $400 I spent on it again, though.

I did at one point, back in '99 or so, hold a copy of it in my hands at Suncoast while looking through the foreign films section....

Actually the only OOP Criterion I don't currently have (not counting titles that have been reissued in newer, better versions) is Playtime... but I'm not dropping $100 on a title that they have plans to rerelease in the not too distant future.

I think the only other rare titles I have in my collection are Double Indemnity and The 47 Ronin Parts I & II, although the latter is out on loan to a friend and I suspect that he may have lost it (considering it's been on loan for two years now!)

-- Jim

-screwy-

Cinemaddiction 09-30-05 02:27 AM


Originally Posted by Al_Tahoe
Rare DVDs, both in print and OOP, that you've never seen before in person?


-screwy-

He was talking directly to Brent. Notice he followed up with a title he himself has never seen.

I have yet to see "Salo", "This is Spinal Tap", or "The Killer" myself, and in my many, many weekly travels, I'm surprised. Haven't spotted many HTF/OOP Criterions, for that matter. None of the LE Anchor Bay tins, i.e. Two Lane Blacktop, Maniac, The Beyond, Let Sleeping Corpses Lie, etc.

The day I do come across "Spinal Tap" however....mmmmmmmmm..

slowcloud 09-30-05 08:29 AM

Hey, Brent, what's the big deal about "The Return"? Who directed it? Who released it? I never heard of it.

Eric D. 09-30-05 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by slowcloud
Hey, Brent, what's the big deal about "The Return"? Who directed it? Who released it? I never heard of it.

I think he is talking about the 2003 Russian film directed by Andrei Zvyagintsev that Kino International put out.

Brent L 09-30-05 10:11 AM

Yep, that's the one.

Leechboy 09-30-05 06:05 PM

I still remember the day (December 22rd 2000) when my Salo: CC came in the mail. At the time it was the best $225 I have spent in my life.

Damfino 09-30-05 06:12 PM

IIRC there was a classsic film-noir release that was recalled (rights issue?) before its release date, but a few copies escaped. It may be the rarest dvd, but not as expensive as Salo since it isn't as well known. and no, I can't remember the title.

I did see Salo and The Killer Criterions at Tower Records back in 1998, but I didn't have the foresight to buy them.

PopcornTreeCt 09-30-05 06:28 PM

I never saw The Killer, Hard Boiled, or Salo Criterions. I'm pretty sure Salo was out of print even before I got into DVDs in 1999. I did almost pick up a Playtime Criterion back in the day but changed my mind. I don't think I ever saw Swamp Thing DVD in person. I don't buy DVDs in the store anymore so I haven't seen a lot of new dvds. Lords of Dogtown Unrated!! OMG!!

Eric D. 09-30-05 07:26 PM

I saw Swamp Thing many times in stores and never picked it up. Wound up paying $40 for it one I found out the new DVD was not the international cut.

xage 01-10-06 10:20 PM

The Evil Dead Lunchbox Edition. Been quite a while that its not seen in stores/online auctions. Well if one pops up in ebay, its lucky for someone to get it at around $50.

wewantflair 01-10-06 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Damfino
IIRC there was a classsic film-noir release that was recalled (rights issue?) before its release date, but a few copies escaped. It may be the rarest dvd, but not as expensive as Salo since it isn't as well known. and no, I can't remember the title.

I did see Salo and The Killer Criterions at Tower Records back in 1998, but I didn't have the foresight to buy them.

You thinking of Farewell, My Lovely? I actually have a copy of this. It's supposed to be very, very scarce.

The Bus 01-11-06 08:02 AM

A place around here actually lets you rent Killer: CC, Hard Boiled: CC, and The 400 Blows: CC (1st print). So Salò remains unseen.

Billyspunk 01-11-06 08:34 AM

The toughest find for myself was finding the KISS Unplugged dvd, that was near impossible to locate, I finally found one at a Suncoast in Taunton MA a few years ago. I hear they are now re-releasing so go figure!

wergo 01-11-06 08:50 AM

I actually held not one, but TWO copies of 'Salo' in my greasy little hands the week it came out and I decided not to buy one. (I already own the laserdisc and I figured it wasn't worth it because it wasn't a new anamorphic transfer) I put 'em back on the racks and it's a momemnt of personal failure that still haunts me. And will continue to do so until a blu-ray edition is released.

I could have kept one for myself and put one aside to sell!

It's a shame the lasedisc never skyrocketed in demand.

jrsl76 01-11-06 09:45 AM

I could have bought Salo when it was going out of print back in the day, but as I hadn't seen it and didn't know about the skyrocketing of value on Criterion discs (their dvds were still pretty new), I passed and kick myself regularly now. I own all the rest from when they were first released including The Killer, Spinal Tap, etc. I also have the Lucertola Rabid Dogs, but paid $70 for that and several months after Anchor Bay annouced their release plans for it. I also kick myself over The Red Desert. I didn't know the film, but could have had it used for $6 or $7 about 3 or 4 years ago. Oh well.

salamander2 01-11-06 10:12 AM

I have the FAREWELL MY LOVELY, bought it from reel.com, ah the old coupon days!

This DVD was actually recalled!?

Damfino 01-11-06 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by wewantflair
You thinking of Farewell, My Lovely? I actually have a copy of this. It's supposed to be very, very scarce.

Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of.

Rypro 525 01-11-06 11:04 AM

i had a copy of the criterion silence of the lambs in my hands at fye a few years ago (they also had the robocop disc as well) and passed them up. i believe they were oop at the time as well.

JesseCuster 01-11-06 11:50 AM

I've never seen several of the Criterion OOP titles, including This Is Spinal Tap. I hadn't seen Sid and Nancy until I happened to luck into a copy via the bunch that showed up at an online retailer a couple of years back.

xage 01-11-06 12:43 PM

care to share photos of your aquisitions?

rfduncan 01-11-06 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Cinemaddiction
I have yet to see "Salo", "This is Spinal Tap", or "The Killer" myself, and in my many, many weekly travels, I'm surprised. Haven't spotted many HTF/OOP Criterions, for that matter. None of the LE Anchor Bay tins, i.e. Two Lane Blacktop, Maniac, The Beyond, Let Sleeping Corpses Lie, etc.

Does someone actually WANT the Maniac LE? I was trying to sell that puppy forever on eBay with no success. I traded by Killer CC for Little Shop of Horrors with the alternate ending. I have never watched my copy of Hard Boiled CC. And my sealed copy of the "unrated" Swamp Thing is collecting dust, but I couldn't find anyone to buy that on eBay for the $9.99 I paid for it now that the new rated version is available. Spinal Tap CC - however did I luck into getting that as one of my 1st DVD purchases from Spree.com's Buy 2 Get 1 Free Criterion sale?

Richard Malloy 01-11-06 02:17 PM

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

The OOP French R2/PAL release of Raul Ruiz' "Le temps retrouve" ("Time Regained") with the all-things-Proust DVD-Rom. Don't know much about this release except that it's supposed to be anamorphic (unlike the crappy R1) and has that interesting sounding DVD-Rom. More disc details here: http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASI...900441-0458633

If anyone knows anything more about this disc, I'd love to hear it! If anyone has this disc, I'd love to talk about making you a deal for it!

gutwrencher 01-11-06 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by rfduncan
Does someone actually WANT the Maniac LE? I was trying to sell that puppy forever on eBay with no success.

I bought it the day it came out...great stuff.

I don't think there are any rare dvds that I've wanted that I actually have not come across at some point. If I wanted something...I could/can find it. Had I wanted Salo...I would have bought it when a buddy of mine would have sold it to me for about $50 4 years back. Still no desire to own it, though. I think he got rid of it for a few hundie.

wageslave 01-11-06 03:09 PM

I know an indie video store that rents Salo, but they'll only let you rent it if you've rented from them 5 times before.

Mr. Cornell 01-11-06 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
I never saw The Killer, Hard Boiled, or Salo Criterions. I'm pretty sure Salo was out of print even before I got into DVDs in 1999. I did almost pick up a Playtime Criterion back in the day but changed my mind. I don't think I ever saw Swamp Thing DVD in person. I don't buy DVDs in the store anymore so I haven't seen a lot of new dvds. Lords of Dogtown Unrated!! OMG!!

I can look at Hard Boiled CC whenever I want, because it's sitting on my DVD shelf. I was originally planning to open the damned thing and watch it, but I still haven't gotten around to it yet. Considering it's now worth bupkis, I don't know why I haven't done that yet. I have never seen Salo or The Killer, however, and I doubt I'll ever want to see Salo.

NCYankee 01-11-06 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cornell
I can look at Hard Boiled CC whenever I want, because it's sitting on my DVD shelf. I was originally planning to open the damned thing and watch it, but I still haven't gotten around to it yet. Considering it's now worth bupkis, I don't know why I haven't done that yet. I have never seen Salo or The Killer, however, and I doubt I'll ever want to see Salo.

Bupkis? Huh? I see $70 starting price for sealed copies at Amazon - not near as much as The Killer, but still not bad (though people have been paying that much for my sealed copies of Out of Sight on Amazon).

I have lucked into Anchor Bay tins of Hellraiser / Hellraiser II and Evil Dead II at Gamestop recently, as well as a copy of Silence of the Lambs CC (verified as legit) and a couple copies of Thunderball SE as well as several other rare Bonds.

rfduncan 01-12-06 10:51 AM

Oh - what I've never seen and wanted was the R1 Jean de Florette and Manon of the Spring. Why is it still OOP?! :(

Cinemaddiction 01-12-06 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by rfduncan
Does someone actually WANT the Maniac LE? I was trying to sell that puppy forever on eBay with no success. I traded by Killer CC for Little Shop of Horrors with the alternate ending. I have never watched my copy of Hard Boiled CC. And my sealed copy of the "unrated" Swamp Thing is collecting dust, but I couldn't find anyone to buy that on eBay for the $9.99 I paid for it now that the new rated version is available.

I've seen the "Maniac" tin go for upwards of $60 in the past couple of months. I wouldn't mind having it, personally. A lot of Anchor Bay tins, no matter how bad the movie, (i.e. Halloween 5) are desirable, and fetch a pretty penny. As for "Swamp Thing", I don't get it. The new rated version still has the nudity, Adrienne Barbeau bathing in the swamp, where you get full frontal on two seperate ocassions.

xage 01-12-06 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by rfduncan
Does someone actually WANT the Maniac LE? I was trying to sell that puppy forever on eBay with no success.

If you were selling it for above $40, then its definitely a NO Success

Having a limited number to 5000 available in US (not in Canada, a neighboring R1), that is a lot of production for a tin.

Have it auctioned (And not placing a Reserve price and Buy It Now Cost) around $20 (since its used) then see how bidders hunger for it, it might sky rocket above $50.

NCYankee 01-12-06 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by rfduncan
Does someone actually WANT the Maniac LE? I was trying to sell that puppy forever on eBay with no success.

Try Amazon, people pay better prices there but you have heftier commissions (15% + 99 cent selling fee.) I have had good luck selling some rare stuff there - I think people feel more protected being able to use their credit card and having Amazon's A-Z guarantee.

I guess the copy of Condorman I found traded-in at Blockbuster last year is a pretty rare one - listed right now on Amazon for $219.99. (Now I wish I hadn't sold it to dvds123.com for ~$50, in the days before I discovered how easy it is to sell at Amazon.)

Condorman

Cinemaddiction 01-12-06 01:13 PM

CD Warehouse around here likes to base their prices off of Amazon when it comes to OOP. It usually ends up being about $7-$10 cheaper, which more or less accounts for the gouging sellers to do make back the Amazon commissions, which are pretty steep.

It's not the right market by which to gauge OOP titles worth, because it is solid, and influenced by ONE seller, not fluctuating, and based on an actual market, like eBay.

Pawn America does the same thing very rarely, given they know what they actually have. I got "My So Called Life" for $15, and 007 Bond Collection 1 for $50, and they tried to sell "Taken" for $50 as well, which was based on Amazon prices. It's hit or miss.

NCYankee 01-12-06 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Cinemaddiction
It's not the right market by which to gauge OOP titles worth, because it is solid, and influenced by ONE seller, not fluctuating, and based on an actual market, like eBay.

Perhaps on the rare occasion that there is only one seller listing a particular item - but in that case it might be the ONLY place to find a particular item. There are no current or completed listings for the version of Condorman I linked to above - the less rare version listed at $119 has half.com listings for $99 and $129, and a completed eBay sale at $68 for a seemingly legit copy (there is one up for sale right now that looks like an import - R0 and 5.1, the original was 2.0.)

In any event, having made over 100 sales there in the last year (many of them rare OOP stuff) I prefer Amazon as a stable market vs a fluctuating one like ebay. A while back I bought a copy of A View to a Kill for $12 on eBay to complete a Bond SE Vol 3 someone had traded in at Gamestop - a few days later they found the missing one and I turned around and sold the extra on Amazon for $28 in a couple days. Which is the more accurate market? Also, Amazon does fluctuate quite a bit - once the Walmart supply dried up, the low price on Fletch has varied between $43 and $68 for sealed copies (since the beginning of December.)

marcellusk 01-12-06 01:52 PM

Little Shop of horrors with the alternate ending

PotVsKtl 01-12-06 02:21 PM

I vote we rename this thread "List things you've never seen that are rarely seen"


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