UMDs getting Exclusive Extras (OLDBOY)
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Well, why carry around two portable devices instead of one? The PSP has been very effectively marketed as an iPod-like novelty device. It serves as an all-in-one solution. Rather than carry around both a PSP (for games) and a portable DVD player, you can bring your PSP anywhere.
I don't think anybody is buying UMD's because they anticipate building a collection of movies "on the go." It's something more akin to "Wow, they have ___________ for the PSP! Cool!" $$cha-ching$$
It's the same reason why those Gameboy videos are doing so well. The intent is not to replace other media types, but rather provide something else to do on your portable gaming device.
I don't think anybody is buying UMD's because they anticipate building a collection of movies "on the go." It's something more akin to "Wow, they have ___________ for the PSP! Cool!" $$cha-ching$$
It's the same reason why those Gameboy videos are doing so well. The intent is not to replace other media types, but rather provide something else to do on your portable gaming device.
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Originally Posted by bboisvert
That's what confuses me. I don't care about portability one way or the other -- if I want to watch a movie on the road, I always have a laptop with me.
But I don't understand why people would pay additional (quite a bit additional, relatively) for a movie on a format that can only be watched on a PSP. Why not just get a cheap portable player and enjoy your entire existing collection that can also be played on a TV, PC, etc. I would have thought that UMD was a product without and audience, but I'm apparently very wrong.
But I don't understand why people would pay additional (quite a bit additional, relatively) for a movie on a format that can only be watched on a PSP. Why not just get a cheap portable player and enjoy your entire existing collection that can also be played on a TV, PC, etc. I would have thought that UMD was a product without and audience, but I'm apparently very wrong.
Oh, and never underestimate the power of peer pressure. Take a few kids from the above groups, mix in some self-centered oneupsmanship and you've got the ball rolling.
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The only numbers that have been thrown around are somewhat out of date. Resident Evil: Apocalypse, House of Flying Daggers, Hitch, XXX, and Hellboy have moved over 100,000 units each, as of the end of July. RE and HOFD hit that number by the beginning of July. (c/o Wired Magazine and Slashdot)
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Originally Posted by wewantflair
Well, why carry around two portable devices instead of one?
But, I think everyone is right... this is being fueled by young kids, peer pressure, "gotta have it" mentality, etc. I'm just shocked that it has sold so well.
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Well, apparently there are barely any games for the PSP at the moment. So, I guess people wanna do SOMETHING with their new toy. But yeah, I don't get it. Just seems like a waste of money. It's unfortunate to see UMD starting to get exclusives.
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If I had a PSP, and IF the UMDs were cheaper (much cheaper), then I'd buy a couple of the moves also.
There isn't a chance in hell that I'd ever pay $15-$25 for one of them though.
There isn't a chance in hell that I'd ever pay $15-$25 for one of them though.
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Buying UMDs is the same as buying DVDs. It's the same compulsive disorder. Why are people complaining about UMDs when you are wasting your savings on every single DVD that gets released. There is no difference whether you are building up collections or libraries. It's still the same compulsive bad habit of consuming...And it's adults who are, if not more, but equally spending tons of money on Video games, DVDs, and UMDs, not just the kids...
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Originally Posted by toddly6666
Buying UMDs is the same as buying DVDs. It's the same compulsive disorder. Why are people complaining about UMDs when you are wasting your savings on every single DVD that gets released. There is no difference whether you are building up collections or libraries. It's still the same compulsive bad habit of consuming...And it's adults who are, if not more, but equally spending tons of money on Video games, DVDs, and UMDs, not just the kids...
UMDs are locked into a PSP and are inferior to DVDs.
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That is why DVD/movie companies are milking the DVD consumer. There will never be one DVD version of a movie anymore - Special Edition, Ultimate Edition, Deluxe Edition, UMD version, new fancy DVD covers, and on and on with their little marketing strategies - because they know that the DVD consumer will feel gyped and unsatisfied knowing that there is another new DVD version with another added extra or better video/audio quality and they will eventually buy the newer one. DVD/movie companies are geniuses because they are 100% aware of the psychology of consuming. These companies only care about making money, so why would all DVD versions share the same extras or video/audio quality and why would they release a "final DVD version of a movie" when they can keep a movie alive by releasing many DVD versions? Each movie made is a business in itself. Why end the business when one can still make money off of it?
I have no idea why people are still complaining about the DVD/movie industry. Now that most people are aware of the negative aspects of movie companies, there is no mystery anymore of why they release tons of versions/formats of one film with different quality/extras.
If you worked for the DVD/movie/PSP industry and your mission was to sell a product and make money, why would you not sell "UMD-only" extras?
It's the sucker consumer that is buying up all these versions of DVDs. It's the consumer that is responsible for companies releasing endless dvd versions...
I have no idea why people are still complaining about the DVD/movie industry. Now that most people are aware of the negative aspects of movie companies, there is no mystery anymore of why they release tons of versions/formats of one film with different quality/extras.
If you worked for the DVD/movie/PSP industry and your mission was to sell a product and make money, why would you not sell "UMD-only" extras?
It's the sucker consumer that is buying up all these versions of DVDs. It's the consumer that is responsible for companies releasing endless dvd versions...
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Originally Posted by toddly6666
It's the sucker consumer that is buying up all these versions of DVDs. It's the consumer that is responsible for companies releasing endless dvd versions...
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Originally Posted by toddly6666
That is why DVD/movie companies are milking the DVD consumer. There will never be one DVD version of a movie anymore - Special Edition, Ultimate Edition, Deluxe Edition, UMD version, new fancy DVD covers, and on and on with their little marketing strategies - because they know that the DVD consumer will feel gyped and unsatisfied knowing that there is another new DVD version with another added extra or better video/audio quality and they will eventually buy the newer one. DVD/movie companies are geniuses because they are 100% aware of the psychology of consuming. These companies only care about making money, so why would all DVD versions share the same extras or video/audio quality and why would they release a "final DVD version of a movie" when they can keep a movie alive by releasing many DVD versions? Each movie made is a business in itself. Why end the business when one can still make money off of it?
I have no idea why people are still complaining about the DVD/movie industry. Now that most people are aware of the negative aspects of movie companies, there is no mystery anymore of why they release tons of versions/formats of one film with different quality/extras.
If you worked for the DVD/movie/PSP industry and your mission was to sell a product and make money, why would you not sell "UMD-only" extras?
It's the sucker consumer that is buying up all these versions of DVDs. It's the consumer that is responsible for companies releasing endless dvd versions...
I have no idea why people are still complaining about the DVD/movie industry. Now that most people are aware of the negative aspects of movie companies, there is no mystery anymore of why they release tons of versions/formats of one film with different quality/extras.
If you worked for the DVD/movie/PSP industry and your mission was to sell a product and make money, why would you not sell "UMD-only" extras?
It's the sucker consumer that is buying up all these versions of DVDs. It's the consumer that is responsible for companies releasing endless dvd versions...
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Originally Posted by caiman
Who the hell wants to watch Oldboy on a 3 inch screen anyway?
Maybe 8-year-olds in the backseat of their parents' SUVs are really into Asian shock cinema?
Maybe 8-year-olds in the backseat of their parents' SUVs are really into Asian shock cinema?
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Originally Posted by bboisvert
Personally, even if I had a PSP, I'd rather shell out $100 or less for a portable DVD player than continue to shell out for UMD movies that are locked into one machine. For the cost of 4 UMD movies or so, I can have access to my entire DVD collection.
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Originally Posted by toddly6666
If you worked for the DVD/movie/PSP industry and your mission was to sell a product and make money, why would you not sell "UMD-only" extras?
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Originally Posted by kms_md
better yet, shell out for a 1GB memory stick duo and put a couple of your own dvds on the psp (loads of free tools abound to do this).
Maybe that is just me.
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Spend that $100+ that the memory stick would have cost
and that $100 worth of UMD movies
Don't get me wrong, the convenience of a portable DVD player is nice and it's a much better way to watch movies on the go than the PSP. But if someone has already dropped $300-400 on a PSP and accessories and they don't want to drop another $100-200 on a portable DVD player, why is it "idiotic" if they want to watch movies on their PSP?
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
No personal offense to you kms, this is more of a general rant, but that has to be the stupidest thing I've heard(I've heard it before). Waste time downconverting a quality dvd so it can be viewed on a 4" screen? Spend that $100+ that the memory stick would have cost, and that $100 worth of UMD movies and get a nice portable with a 7" - 10" screen, then you have access to thousands of movies without ever messing with converting and transferring at a lower quality. Nor do you need to be a foot from the screen to see what is going on. A lot will allow you to view .jpg's and other formats as well, same as the PSP. So it just doesn't add up to me.
Maybe that is just me.
Maybe that is just me.
however, in overall geek factor, you have to admit ripping your own dvds to the psp is pretty cool.
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Sales of UMD movies have definitely exceeded original expectations, and no one is likely more surprised than the studios themselves (and this is why other studios are now jumping on the UMD bandwagon). But I really can't see any substantial longetivity for the format for all the reasons already mentioned.
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Here's my take.
For those who think UMD is waste, I think the opposite. I don't really think it is worth buying a 1GB memory stick. Let's see, how many full length movies can you fit on it? A couple? Plus you have to spend time to rip the DVD and convert it to a MP4. Now, if I'm without a computer... how many movies do I have? How many 1GB MS do I have to buy to have a bunch of movies on hand? It's just not worth it to me.
Comparing PSP to portable DVD player...
PSP + UMD Videos, much smaller and easier to transport than my portable DVD player + DVDs. And my PSP gets much better battery life. Granted my portable DVD player is a cheap 100$ POS, I've been using the PSP + UMD videos in its place and it has been great.
But than again... if I own an audio CD, I'm not going to pay for MP3s so I can listen to the songs on my MP3 player.
For those who think UMD is waste, I think the opposite. I don't really think it is worth buying a 1GB memory stick. Let's see, how many full length movies can you fit on it? A couple? Plus you have to spend time to rip the DVD and convert it to a MP4. Now, if I'm without a computer... how many movies do I have? How many 1GB MS do I have to buy to have a bunch of movies on hand? It's just not worth it to me.
Comparing PSP to portable DVD player...
PSP + UMD Videos, much smaller and easier to transport than my portable DVD player + DVDs. And my PSP gets much better battery life. Granted my portable DVD player is a cheap 100$ POS, I've been using the PSP + UMD videos in its place and it has been great.
But than again... if I own an audio CD, I'm not going to pay for MP3s so I can listen to the songs on my MP3 player.
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Originally Posted by Eric D.
I concur. I hope this format dies a sudden, misreable death. Fuck UMD!
They couldn't find WMD in Iraq, and they won't find a UMD in my home.
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UMD will only die when the PSP dies, and I don't see that happening any time soon. I don't approve the prices of UMD's, but I can see why studios are doing it. Consumers like them....I would like to see WHO is actually buying them, I would have to say the 15-18 year olds mainly.
As for converting DVD's....that is what I do. Yes, it's time consuming, but I'll just convert a bunch, dump them on a blank DVD, then have them for use whever I want. I have a 1GB msduo...since you need one for games/music/emulators/pictures/other
So, just being able to put ANY movie I want on my PSP is nice.
As for converting DVD's....that is what I do. Yes, it's time consuming, but I'll just convert a bunch, dump them on a blank DVD, then have them for use whever I want. I have a 1GB msduo...since you need one for games/music/emulators/pictures/other
So, just being able to put ANY movie I want on my PSP is nice.