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Old 05-14-05, 02:06 AM
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with all the controversy of Blu-ray discs it doesn't surprise me that the buffons at Sony/TriStar pull this kind of crap.
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I don't know if it will help much, but it seems like Sony/Columbia-TriStar need to have a ton of e-mails & letters sent their way to let them know that a large segment of their consumer market really hates this decision.

At the VERY least they should change the catalog number so as to avoid confusion, but it would be preferable to have them continue to make the flippers with both versions.

Sometimes getting flooded with mail/e-mail makes corporate suits wake up. Sometimes it doesn't - but it would seem to be worth the effort in this case.
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Old 05-14-05, 10:40 AM
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At the VERY least they should change the catalog number so as to avoid confusion, but it would be preferable to have them continue to make the flippers with both versions.
flippers are very cost ineffective. Your letters/e-mails should say that most of the public wants widescreen and to keep that side rather than FS. Or as you said to change the catalog #/UPC Barcode.
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Well, the re-releases have all taken major price reductions, you expect to get something for nothing?

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Old 05-14-05, 01:56 PM
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Plenty of other studios have dropped their prices to the same level but have kept both transfers if they originally included both. The only other studio dropping content at price reductions is MGM dropping Special Edition material on some titles, and they're at least keeping the proper versions of the movies on the new discs.
The prices on Multiplicity and Stepmom don't seem to have dropped to the $5.50 level either, yet they've both lost the widescreen versions. Price drops are no excuse for drops in quality, and if they're going to do this they should at least still sell the 2-sided discs at the higher price. A few of these titles still have widescreen Superbit releases, but not all of them.
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Old 04-23-06, 11:47 AM
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In the batch of stuff I got in the last 20% off DDD sale, I ordered Geronimo...finally got around to popping it in today and it's the full screen reissue every retailer still lists it as a flipper....as does DVDProfiler....but this is Full Screen only. I suppose i'm screwed at this point, and it was only $5....but i'm pissed
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They only released THE TROUBLE WITH ANGELS in full-screen, when it can be widely seen on TCM in letterbox. What the F**K Gives? If I am selling widescreen tvs and only offering full-frame movies, I can see why we won't make budget this year.

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Old 04-26-06, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by brizz
In the batch of stuff I got in the last 20% off DDD sale, I ordered Geronimo...finally got around to popping it in today and it's the full screen reissue every retailer still lists it as a flipper....as does DVDProfiler....but this is Full Screen only. I suppose i'm screwed at this point, and it was only $5....but i'm pissed
The reason why every place and DVD Profiler lists it as a 2-sided disc is because they kept the same UPC code when they bastardized it. Heck, DVD Profiler still lists it at the original retail price.
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Old 09-09-07, 04:52 PM
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Is there an update on new titles that's getting the widescreen dropped?
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Bought "The Cable Guy" at best buy ..... it was FOOLscreen only
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Old 09-14-07, 06:53 PM
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I bought Cable Guy when it was first released in widescreen/foolscreen
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Old 09-14-07, 07:32 PM
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do the creators of the film have no say in this? i mean, i realize the studio makes the decisions, but i would assume that directors and such should be able to say they want their film released in the way it was intended. luckily for me, i already purchased the titles that i want on that list a long time ago so i don't have to worry about this problem.
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Old 09-14-07, 08:35 PM
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Look Who's Talking has been reissued in Foolscreen only with a new cover and 2007 date on it; I managed to find the old disc at Wal-Mart for the same price so I grabbed it. I don't have access to retailer websites anymore so I don't know if they are still planning to keep doing this; it's got to have created a lot of bad PR for them though. I'm probably going to get a new TV in the next year, and I won't even consider a Sony because of this.

Some speculated this was done to push people towards Blu-Ray, but none of these titles have come out in that format yet. If I buy a Blu-Ray player it also will NOT be a Sony (actually hoping the dual-format players become more commonplace and affordable soon.)
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i have wondered for 2 years why i only found 'And Justice For All' in fullscreen...

i looked quite a bit actually...

a damn shame...
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Old 09-15-07, 12:06 AM
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I spent $26 on Sweet and Lowdown and opened it, thinking the Full Screen had to be a misprint since the DVD I got from Netflix was a flipper, but no. I ended up having to spend another $20 to get the UK version so I could see it in the proper aspect ratio. $46 for one movie, thanks Sony.
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Old 09-15-07, 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Some speculated this was done to push people towards Blu-Ray, but none of these titles have come out in that format yet.
Well, then it would be my guess that those speculators have no idea what they are talking about and it makes very little sense to repeat what they are saying - never mind get all worked up about it.

Obviously Sony dropped one side of the discs to save some pennies during the production process, which pisses me off. The fact that they didn't give these discs new UPC's in unforgivable!! I'm actually more prone to believe that they dropped WS from so many releases was in response to pressure from Wall-Mart. It doesn't explain why some releases retained their WS version (like "Dick"). None of the choices seem to have been made based on artistic merit.

Sometimes, on the dual format releases, each side had its own distinct features (like deleted scenes on one side and a making of on the other). Perhaps some of these extras had royalties associated with them, and that's how Sony made the choice.
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Old 09-15-07, 07:47 AM
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First, let me say that I hate Sony and have never bought a dvd or laserdisc that wasn't WS.

BUT

I totally understand why they don't seem to care about how they produce their dvd's. 99.99% of people do not care about aspect ratios. It is only a fringe minority of people (like me) who even care about the aesthetics of film.

My evidence of this fact is that I tried to sell my widescreen Sony dvd's (Sweet & Lowdown, The Deep, etc) on Amazon and Ebay for MSRP, and there was no interest. I could not give them away.

Sony must have at least as good market research as me.
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Old 09-15-07, 02:49 PM
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Theres no mystery here- SONY is run by a bunch of clueless idiots, running around like chickens with their heads cut off, as they are bleeding cash badly (from what ive read)
And of course virtually PAYING people to use Blu Ray cant have helped.
The discs cost far more to produce than what they are selling them for.
Not so with HD.
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Finally, in the "You've Got to Be F-ing Kidding Me!" category, it seems that there's a THIRD high-def disc format on the way. According to this story at Yahoo, a company called New Medium Enterprises is soon to launch HD VMD (Versatile Multilayer Disc) at Amazon and Radio Shack stores. HD VMD discs hold 30GB of data and feature a data rate of 40 mbps using MPEG-2 and VC-1 (AVC may be added later). The main selling point is that the cost to consumers is much lower than either Blu-ray or HD-DVD. Their player will sell for just $150. If I had to guess, I'd guess this will be a non factor. What studio is going to want to sell their movies on a THIRD HD format? It sure doesn't make decisions any easier for consumers. (Wanna bet?)

I think Bill is whistleing past the graveyard.

The studios might jump at the chance to make out like bandits-they can still sell a title for $19,95 SRP-or $14.95 and have below the line costs of say, $5.00 per disc from idea>prepwork>authouring>transport>point of sale=$$$$$
Or, to quote from LIFEFORCE:

"Dear God! if this spreads-in a matter of days we'll all be doomed!"- Dr. Hans Fallada (speaking on behalf of SONY)

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Old 09-17-07, 01:16 AM
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The following are all the titles, mistakes notwithstanding, mentioned in this thread, the one linked to, the HTF thread and some other research (AllMovie, DVDCompare, etc.).

I'm sure there are others not mentioned also (would it be useful to anyone to post a list of CTHE titles that DVDPriceSearch lists as 16x9/4x3 in case it sparks any others?).

:Titles that had their IAR removed:

3 Ninjas: High Noon On Mega Mountain
3 Ninjas Kick Back
3 Ninjas Knuckle Up (1995)
...And Justice for All (1979)
About Last Night... (1986)
Adventures of Milo and Otis, The (1986)
Air Force One (1997)
Anaconda
Bear, The (1988)
Beast, The (1988)
Bite the Bullet (1975)
Blankman
Blue Thunder (1983)
Body Double (1984)
Body, The (2001)
Buddy (1997)
Buddy Holly Story, The (1978)
Cable Guy, The (1996)
Chances Are (1989)
Cheap Detective, The (1978)
Cruel Intentions 2 (2001)
Dance With Me (1998)
Deep End of the Ocean, The (1999)
Deep, The (1977)
Desert Heat (1999)
Desperate Measures (1998)
Dogma
Excess Baggage (1997)
Eye of the Beholder (1999)
Fan, The (1996)
Frankenstein (1994)
Future Sport (1998)
Gattaca (1997)
Geronimo: An American Legend (1993)
Guarding Tess
Guess Who's Coming to Dinner (1967)
Hard Times (1975)
Hero (1992)
Hideaway (1995)
High School High (1996)
Hush (1998)
I Dreamed of Africa (2000)
Idle Hands (1999)
Iron Eagle (1986)
Jawbreaker (1999)
John Carpenter's Vampires
Johnny Mnemonic (1995)
Juror, The (1996)
Karate Kid Part III
Knock Off (1998)
Last Action Hero (1993)
Look Who's Talking (1989)
Look Who's Talking Too (1990)
Mackenna's Gold (1969)
Madeline (1998)
Man From Laramie, The
Maximum Risk
Mercy (2000)
Mirror Has Two Faces, The (1996)
Mixed Nuts (1994)
Money Train
Mortal Thoughts (1991)
Moscow on the Hudson (1984)
Mrs. Winterbourne (1996)
Multiplicity (1996)
Muppets From Space
My Life (1993)
My Stepmother Is an Alien (1988)
No Mercy (1986)
No Way Back (1995)
Nowhere to Run (1993)
Odessa File, The (1974)
Order, The (2001)
Peggy Sue Got Married (1986)
Picnic
Professional, The
Replacement Killers, The
Revenge (1990)
Richard Pryor: Here And Now
Roxanne (1987)
Rudyard Kipling's The Second Jungle Book: Mowgli... (1997)
School Daze (1988)
Screamers (1995)
Seven Years in Tibet
Sheena (1984)
Silent Rage (1982)
Spice World (1998)
Starman (1984)
Stepmom (1998)
Still Crazy
Suspect (1987)
Sweet and Lowdown (1999)
Thirteenth Floor, The (1999)
Tortilla Soup
Toy, The (1982)
Two Moon Junction (1988)
Universal Soldier: The Return (1999)
Whatever It Takes (2000)
Whipped (2000)
Who Am I? (1998)
Wild Things (1998)

:Titles that had their MAR removed:

All About My Mother (1999)
As Good as It Gets (1997)
Assignment, The (1997)
Big Daddy (1999)
Big Hit, The
Black Dragon (1989)
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Breed, The (2001)
Can't Hardly Wait
Dancer, Texas Pop 81
Dick (1999)
Fools Rush In
Forsaken, The (2001)
Gardens Of Stone
Glass House, The
Hollywood Knights, The (1980)
Homegrown (1998)
Indian in the Cupboard
It Could Happen to You (1994)
Jabberwocky
Karate Kid Part II
Last Dragon, The (1985)
Little Nikita
Lords of Flatbush, The (1974)
Midnight Express
Mr. Jones
Murphy's Romance
Never Talk To Strangers
Next Karate Kid, The
Poetic Justice
Quick & The Dead
River Runs Through It, A (1992)
Run Lola Run
Saving Silverman
Sex, Lies & Videotape
Single White Female
So I Married an Axe Murderer (1993)
Solo
Sniper (1993)
Stir Crazy
Striking Distance
True Believer
Welcome to the Dollhouse
Who's Harry Crumb

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Old 09-17-07, 12:08 PM
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I was hoping to buy Iron Eagle eventually. I guess I waited too long.

Is Joe Six Pack STILL demanding movies without the black bars?

Silly me, I thought we were past that.
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Finally found Multiplicity, Hideaway & Mortal Thoughts in Widescreen
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We got in Vampires at work, and found it was foolscreen only.
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Old 09-30-07, 06:36 PM
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I was hoping to buy Iron Eagle eventually. I guess I waited too long.

Is Joe Six Pack STILL demanding movies without the black bars?

Silly me, I thought we were past that.
I was thinking the same thing. Its 2007 (almost 2008) and people are now more aware of original aspect ratio and widescreen thanks to the LCDs and Plasma TVs. So why the hell is Sony is releasing films in full screen like in the VHS era?
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Old 10-11-07, 04:17 PM
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The following are the Sony/CTHE titles that dvdpricesearch lists as having both a OAR and MAR transfer. The only purpose it serves is to possibly spark additions to those that may have silently had their OAR/MAR transfers dropped for inclusion in the above list.

It is by no means complete, as I'm sure their info will omit some, nor 100% accurate as I imagine it lists some as having both when they really didn't. Hopefully a jumping off point though.

20 Million Miles To Earth
2001: A Space Travesty
3:10 To Yuma
8mm
Absence of Malice
Absence Of The Good
Adventures of Baron Munchausen
America's Sweethearts
American Pop
Anacondas: The Hunt For The Blood Orchid
Annie (1982)
Apt Pupil
Armed And Dangerous
Avenging Angelo
Baby Geniuses
Bare Witness
Beautiful (2000)
Bell, Book And Candle
Beverly Hills Ninja
Big Chill
Birdy
Black & White
Blackout
Bliss
Blue Lagoon
Blue Streak
Booty Call
Born Free
Bottle Rocket
Breakin' All The Rules
Breakout
Brian's Song (2001)
Broken Hearts Club: A Romantic Comedy
Brother John
Brothers
Bugsy
Butterflies Are Free
Buying The Cow
Bye Bye Birdie
Cactus Flower
Caine Mutiny
California Suite
China Syndrome
Christine
Christmas With The Kranks
City Of Lost Children
Cold Steel
Cops & Robbersons
Cruel Intentions
Daddy Day Care
Damn The Defiant!
Dark Blue World
Day The World Ended
Devil In A Blue Dress
Devil's Own
Double Team
Dr. Strangelove
Drowning Mona
Earth Vs. The Spider
Eight Crazy Nights
End Of The Affair
End Of The Affair (1955)
Evil That Men Do, The
Eye See You
Eyes Of Laura Mars
Fat City
Few Good Men
Fifth Element
First Knight
Flatliners
For Da Love Of Money
For Pete's Sake
Formula 51
Fortress 2
Fright Night
Front, The
Full Contact
Funny Lady
Gen X Cops
Get On The Bus
Ghostbusters 2
Gigli
Girl
Girl, Interrupted
Girlfight
Gladiator (1992)
Glitter
Gloria
Glory
Glory Daze
Go!
Godspell
Godzilla 2000
Golden Voyage Of Sinbad
Goldwyn
Gorgeous
Great Muppet Caper
Greatest, The
Greenfingers
Groove
Half Past Dead
Hanging Up
Hangman
Hanky Panky
Hard Eight
Higher Learning
Hollywood Homicide
Home Room
Hook
House Of Mirth
How To Make A Monster
Hudson Hawk
Husbands And Wives
I Capture The Castle
I Know What You Did Last Summer
I Love You To Death
I Spy: The Movie (2002)
I Still Know What You Did Last Summer
If Lucy Fell
In God's Hands
In The Company of Men
Indochine
Jagged Edge
Jakob The Liar
Jason And The Argonauts
Jason Goes To Hell: The Final Friday
Jo Jo Dancer, Your Life Is Calling
Joe Dirt
Just Looking
Kept
Kermit's Swamp Years
King Of Marvin Gardens
King Of Masks
Last Detail
Last Hurrah
Les Miserables
Little Black Book (2004)
Little Secrets
Living In Oblivion
Living It Up
Lone Star State Of Mind
Long Gray Line, The
Loser
Love And A Bullet
Love Stinks
Maid In Manhattan
Man For All Seasons
Man Of The House (2005)
Man Who Loved Women (1983) yes
Manhattan Murder Mystery
Mary Reilly
Mask Of Zorro
Master Of Disguise
Me You Them
Medallion, The
Monty Python's And Now For Something Completely Different
Mothman Prophecies, The
Muppet Movie
Muppets Take Manhattan
Mysterious Island (1961)
National Security
Net
New Best Friend
New Guy, The
Night Of The Living Dead
Nothing In Common
Old Gringo
Once A Thief (1991)
One Day In September
One False Move
Only You
Opposite Of Sex
Out Of Reach
Pal Joey
People vs. Larry Flynt
Persuasion
Pest
Places In The Heart
Point Men
Postcards From The Edge
Princess Caraboo
Professionals
Punchline
Race The Sun
Raisin In The Sun
Real Genius
Red Dwarf (1999)
Red Rock West
Resurrection
Right Temptation
Road Home, The
Runaway
Running Free
Savior
Secret Of Roan Inish
See No Evil, Hear No Evil
Seems Like Old Times
Seventh Sign
Shadow Magic
Shadrach
Shampoo
She Creature, The
Short Circuit 2
Simon Sez
Slackers
Sleepless In Seattle
Sleepwalkers
Snatch
Soldier Of Fortune
Soldier's Story
Solomon And Gaenor
Someone To Watch Over Me
Spacehunter: Adventures In The Forbidden Zone
Spider
Stand By Me
Starship Troopers
Steel Magnolias
Storm Catcher
Stripes
Stuart Little 2
Suburbans
Suddenly Last Summer
Sunset
Survivors, The
Sweetest Thing
Swept From The Sea
Teenage Caveman
Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation
Things Are Tough All Over
Things Change
Third Miracle
Thunderheart
Time And Tide
To Die For
To Sir With Love
Tokyo Raiders
Tomcats
Tommy
Tootsie
Trixie
Trois 2: Pandora's Box
True Blue
Trumpet Of The Swan
Truth Or Consequences
Two Can Play That Game
U Turn
Under Suspicion
Urban Legend
Urban Legend: Final Cut
Va Savoir
Vampires: Los Muertos
Velocity Trap
Walk Don't Run
War Lover, The
Weekend At Bernie's 2
What Planet Are You From?
When A Stranger Calls
White River, The
White Water Summer
Wicked
Winslow Boy
Wolf
You Light Up My Life

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