Sony Says Open to Avoiding DVD Format War
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I like the hardware support from the Blu-Ray side, but prefer the announced studio support thus far on the HD-DVD side. I wish Sony would just buy off the HD-DVD people so we could get on with this.
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What I find most interesting about this is that this seems to be a philisophical shift for Sony as a whole!
I've always seen BLU-RAY as Sony/Phillips trying to selfishly do an end run around the DVD forum rather than submit it to them as a next generation technology. Those companies never felt the need to go before the DVD FORUM. Seems they felt like they can make it on their own and totally leave Toshiba out the process and not have to pay royalties!
How ironic it is that now they are the one's to propose a compromise when they so arrogantly forged ahead those years before!!
I'm thinking that with the studio support that has gone to HD-DVD and the expense of the MGM acquisition that it would be too costly if they lose this war!! Far better to seek compromise!
Now i'm not going to get into which is a better format! The fact that BLU-RAY has 20 gigs more in storage speaks volumes. However the Blu-Ray standard has bettered because of pressure of HD-DVD with new, better and more efficent codecs.
I personally would like to see a true melding of the technologies very much the way standard DVD is now.
Either way, it's going to be interesting to see how this shakes out!!
I've always seen BLU-RAY as Sony/Phillips trying to selfishly do an end run around the DVD forum rather than submit it to them as a next generation technology. Those companies never felt the need to go before the DVD FORUM. Seems they felt like they can make it on their own and totally leave Toshiba out the process and not have to pay royalties!
How ironic it is that now they are the one's to propose a compromise when they so arrogantly forged ahead those years before!!
I'm thinking that with the studio support that has gone to HD-DVD and the expense of the MGM acquisition that it would be too costly if they lose this war!! Far better to seek compromise!
Now i'm not going to get into which is a better format! The fact that BLU-RAY has 20 gigs more in storage speaks volumes. However the Blu-Ray standard has bettered because of pressure of HD-DVD with new, better and more efficent codecs.
I personally would like to see a true melding of the technologies very much the way standard DVD is now.
Either way, it's going to be interesting to see how this shakes out!!
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Originally Posted by Fok
Well if they can't/won't produce a player that will play both, I just hope the movie selection will be good for both formats......but I doubt that and they'll make us buy both 

Now, about those HD-recording formats....
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Sony/Philips won't. Everybody else will. It will be just like SACD/DVD-A. My player handles both of those quite nicely, I have no worries about HD on DVD.
Now, about those HD-recording formats....
Now, about those HD-recording formats....
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Wow , a lot of people on this thread who are determined to pay twice the licencing costs come what may . Y'all so generous !
AACS have just released their 0.9 (draft) version of their specifications . Some interesting stuff about internet connections mixed in there ...
AACS have just released their 0.9 (draft) version of their specifications . Some interesting stuff about internet connections mixed in there ...
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Originally Posted by Burnt Thru
AACS have just released their 0.9 (draft) version of their specifications . Some interesting stuff about internet connections mixed in there...
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From: second star on the right and straight on to the morning
Beta
Vhs
8 tracks
cassettes
cds
Lds
dvds
TVs
sound systems
receivers
There are really great advancements in technology but to stay current I have to repurchase everything --
AGAIN.
I am tired of it to tell the truth. Is it so unrealistic to have backward compatability.
The company (companies) that provide that will have my purchasing loyality.
SOMEDAY some company CEOs will come to that conclusion -- someday.
Vhs
8 tracks
cassettes
cds
Lds
dvds
TVs
sound systems
receivers
There are really great advancements in technology but to stay current I have to repurchase everything --
AGAIN.
I am tired of it to tell the truth. Is it so unrealistic to have backward compatability.
The company (companies) that provide that will have my purchasing loyality.
SOMEDAY some company CEOs will come to that conclusion -- someday.
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Went to Panasonic center in Tokyo and they had a Blue Ray recorder for sale.They said it's been out for almost 1 year.And guess what, they consumers are not buying it even when it's a lot more better than the normal DVD-+R/RW recorders.Which are selling so fast.So now they got 1 player each from Sony and Panasonic and almost 1 year and sales which are not good at all.No wonder Sony is now feeling the pressure.
If the consumer support for Blue Ray is this lame then they are in big trouble.
If the consumer support for Blue Ray is this lame then they are in big trouble.
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Originally Posted by Peralphion
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" This blacklisting of a single player model is quite powerful and can slow down mass piracy, but on the other hand it can also have some significant drawbacks for legitimate consumers. For instance, you could one day suddenly be unable to watch new movies on your player because it has been revoked after someone has successfully compromised this model. Practical use (as well as explanations to future customers) of this new revocation system will be very interesting to watch. "
I don't see how they can use this in their new hd-dvd players. If they do i think that will be the downfall of a new format. I mean so all of a sudden my dvd player is not going to work because someone out there craked their player so they could play their illegal coppies. I though hdcp was enough, and will this not require a internett connection for them to see if the player has been cracked? And then we have to buy a new player or get a upgrade. Most people don't even know how to update windows, now they are going to be doing it to their dvd player. This is going to far me thinks.
I don't see how they can use this in their new hd-dvd players. If they do i think that will be the downfall of a new format. I mean so all of a sudden my dvd player is not going to work because someone out there craked their player so they could play their illegal coppies. I though hdcp was enough, and will this not require a internett connection for them to see if the player has been cracked? And then we have to buy a new player or get a upgrade. Most people don't even know how to update windows, now they are going to be doing it to their dvd player. This is going to far me thinks.
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