Down With Daylight Saving Time!!!

How is it silly?

If people want a bigger piece of property, they'll move.

If people want more square footage, they'll move.

If people want more bedrooms, they'll move.

If people want a bigger kitchen, they'll move.

What's the difference? We didn't move "solely" for the dedicated HT, but it was one of the top reasons why (along with a bigger house). If you really wanted a pool, but your backyard wasn't big enough, would you not consider moving to a house that could accomodate it?

It's about things that you really want and what you'll do to get them. Moving into a different house is no big deal to me. Heck, I'm 40 and I've owned 6 different houses already and have never had the same address for more than 3 years. I tend to move, so I guess I'm used to it.

I don't understand your post. What monetary investment are you talking about? What is the securing of spousal approval you're talking about? What's the three years you're talking about?

Are you saying you have a substantial investment in your house and that your wife has told you you can't move and that it's been that way for three years? What does that have to do with anything?

If you're talking about me (in which case I really don't understand your post), then I'll try and explain each point:

Monetary investment - We had a substantial monetary investment in our old home and we recouped it when we sold it.
Securing spousal approval - I've never really understood what this means. My wife likes movies. I like movies. We both wanted a home theater in our house.

Three years rolling by - Yes, we lived in the old house about 3 years. Point?


The point I was making is that you don't HAVE to MAKE DO with anything. Life is full of choices. If you choose to have a media room instead of a home theater, then that's your choice. It's not something you MUST DO. If you think moving is silly then staying in your current house is more important to you than having a dedicated HT. There's nothing wrong with that, that's just where your priority is. In my case, have a HT was more important to me than the house I was living in. Not silly at all.



Stew

Much arguing and brouhaha, it seems:

Indy Star article on time change

It's been argued before, but the new Gov seems to feel very strongly about it. They not only get to bicker over whether or not to adopt DST, but whether we are Central or Eastern. They say our time is "confusing". What's confusing is all the change. Have all the states NOT observe DST and it gets much simpler.

I tend to use the daytime for doing productive things and night for watching movies, unless I'm in the mood for a movie and then it's DVD all day. Having a projector rather then an actual TV does kind of suck with the light that does come in, but I'm working on that with blinds and building walls around the home theater area.

Yeah, every other country and state does it, but we couldn't bare Indiana the inconvenience.

So you lose or gain and hour twice a year. Wow...major problem. Just think of it as a late night cross time-zone flight, twice a year.

Actually, this would be a good solution. One house in Alaska and another in southern Chile. Move from one to the other to avoid those pesky light-filled summer months.

Or you could get some curtains or something.

I'm usually working from 7am to 7pm or later anyway....so film watching during the day is usually a fantasy. Welcome to the real world. Today is a rare day off but to viddey a film is easy since the theater room that was built in the new home is in the basement. What windows?

I'm no fan of the time change, but it doesn't affect my DVD viewing. My wife hates movies and is an early bird. I'm a night person. So I typically watch my movies very late anyway after she's in bed sleeping.

If you don't mind the "ghetto" factor, a few sheets of black poster board at 50 cents each and some tape can go a long way.

Or you could always get thick drapes that are dark in color, then just pull them back and tie to the side when you aren't viewing.

get out once in awhile!

Lawmakers Want Daylight-Saving Time Change

A House committee voted on Wednesday to expand U.S. daylight-saving time by two months to help reduce energy consumption, but rejected a plan to shave total U.S. oil demand by 1 million barrels a day.

Both proposals were offered as amendments to be tacked on to a broad energy bill that was debated by the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

The panel agreed in a voice vote to move the start of daylight-saving time in the United States -- which occurs when clocks are turned forward by one hour -- one month earlier to the first Sunday in March. The end of daylight time would be moved back one month to the last Sunday in November.

Rest of the article can be read here

I have two big oval windows above the main square ones that face west. So I can't even watch regular TV until after sunset because the glare is so bad. But I like my house better than I like my DVD's so I'm not moving.

Indiana, Arizona, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the US Virgin Islands don't. China, Japan, and large parts of Australia don't. If the Governor expects me to acknowledge DST, then he can jolly well get his butt over to my house and re-set all the clocks twice a year himself. Me? I'll pass. The local argument is that our economy stinks because we don't observe DST. That's laughable. Arizona does not observe DST and they're doing fine. DST is just a silly ritual.

Sounds like you're over educated on the subject and have lost all common sense on the subject.

If you can't bother yourself, or muster up enough energy, to change the clocks twice a year, I pity to see what you do when you buy a new clock or watch. Do you call your local politicians to come and set your new clocks for you?

Let me guess, you never mastered the whole "programming a VCR" thing either, right?

My bedside clock has a thing where it automatically syncs with the NIST satellite every night at midnight, including adjusting for DST. Pretty cool.

Nonsense. They're even talking now of expanding DST from the first part of March through the end of November. That leaves roughly December, January and February on Standard Time. Why not just make all 12 months so-called DST and be done with it? The argument that we use less energy by having businesses open during more daylight hours is a crock. How many malls, offices, etc., the greatest consumers of energy, actually have functioning windows and give a darn whether it's dark or light? Lights and heating or A/C run regardless. I don't care if we're Standard or DST, but pick a time and stick with it!

I have better things to do than re-set every clock in the house for some idiot reason such as DST.

Thanks for proving my theory that when you can't come up with a logical, rational response, it's always best to take a swipe at the person you disagree with. Your whole post actually proves that. Yes, I'm quite capable of handling the VCR... why... do you need help with yours?

Like I said...over educated....

Yes, that whole 5-10 minutes out of your year is a real bitch...I know...I hate that I actually have to get up to swap out DVDs manually. What I really want is a robot to do it for me.

No, but you're continued opposition to the issue tells me that you're reluctant and even hostile to change to something the majority of the rest of us take for granted and deal with without thought.

Only stupid threads like these concerning DVD watching bring up the issue.

Maybe the government of Indiana has assumed all along that Indiana residents aren't smart enough or energetic enough to bother changing their clocks. Or maybe because you're on the extreme western edge of the Eastern Time Zone and most of your out-of-state business comes from my state of Illinois. To make things even more interesting, the south western corner of the state, around Evansville, is in Central Time.

So, looking at the facts available and forming my own opinion based on those makes me over-educated? Fine. Whatever.

My opposition to DST (actually just the stupid spring-ahead / fall-back ritual... as I said before I'd be happy with just one stupid timezone- any timezone) isn't based on DVD watching at all, I was pointing out to another poster who recommended Indiana as a refuge from DST that we might not be much longer. If I thought it were something better, I'd love the change. I don't feel that it's something better, but rather an outdated habit that a lot of people are trapped in. I'm not much of one for going along with the majority when it looks like a herd of mindless sheep. If DST is all that and a box of chocolates, then let's all do it year-round, but this clock-changing is silly.


It's fairly common knowledge, at least among the over-educated, that the farming community of Indiana prefers Standard time to give them more working hours, and has nothing to do with the rest of us. If you'll whip out a map, you'll see that I am not on the western edge of Indiana, but in Indianapolis (see those letters under my username? I-n-d-i-a-n-a-p-o-l-i-s... it's also that big word in the center of Indiana... yes, I know that's lots of letters and I'm being an overeducated snot by using big words, but so it goes...). We're not tied to anything in another state, and not agricultural, so those aren't issues. Currently, as you pointed out, some counties that have strong business ties to other states (also including the area up by Chicago, by Cincinnati, by Louisville, and I believe a couple of others around Fort Wayne) match their time to the larger cities they are close to. That makes sense. By changing our time zone, it would alter all those relationships because then the bickering begins over whether we're Eastern or Central. In short, it may seem confusing now, for some, but it's consistent and has been this way for decades.

Frankly, I wonder why you even care given that you're in Illinois. Unless it's just so boring over there that you need to argue on a messageboard. Hope it was entertaining, because my over-educated self does have better stuff to do now, so adios. (How did I ever get to be over educated when Indiana residents are not smart or energetic? Ah, the mysteries of life!)

If anyone really wants to know why we shouldn't fool with clocks, check out Sapphire and Steel

Jeez, just get a room.

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