Have I read this right that the upcoming R1 "House of Flying Daggers" won't have an English 5.1 track? just English subtitles?

well amazon doesn't have any sub/dub details, but DDD confirms what you're stating... Best Buy however lists an english audio track. interesting!

Is missing an english dub a make or break, or a consideration for you? I wouldn't even care, as long as there's a 5.1 chinese audio track.

i wouldnt care either
what was cut btw, since i hear that there were little parts cut out here and htere from the american version. i thought the final fight was pretty violent and bloody as is.

Same here man.

Dubs are just a waste of space, as i'd rather see those bits used on the transfer or a DTS track.

Not having a dub track bothers you but you qualify fulscreen lovers as "lacking taste and intellect?"

Frankly, I'll be glad if they don't.

eXcentris, you beat me to it! I was just about to say the same exact thing!

Since I've only seen it with subs, it'd be strange to hear a dub track.

I'm with you Lorenzol, I'd prefer the disc W/out a crappy english language dub.
I have both of the R3 (Edko/Starmax) 2 disc SE/LE and am looking forward to seeing what the R1 is going to bring to the table.

why in the world would you want an English 5.1 track? it makes as much sense as eating Crunch N Munch n Yankee Stadium!

I guess it is the Full Screen English dubbed for you!

Well, given the fact that anyone who wants their foreign films dubbed into English has the I.Q. of less than 50, most likely you didn't read it right.

Just yanking your chain here a little. But it does seem a tad inconsistent for one who is so insistent on watching movies in their OAR to also want their movies dubbed into English. Have you even given subtitles a chance? You are really missing out by not listening to these foreign movies in the language in which they were originally presented.

By the way you can presently get the Starmax 2 disc edition of the movie right now without having to wait for the region 1 release. Just got mine yesterday and had a great time watching it.

Really enjoyed the Starmax transfer and the packaging. Just wish the extras had also been subbed. I also have the Edko version coming. And, like you, am interested in seeing if the R1 can somehow top these earlier releases.

I'd be glad if they didn't have an English audio track. Just a waste of space anyway as far as I'm concerned. Chinese movies in particular usually have bad dubs so I think this news is great.

I have to concur.

God this site is filled with elitists...

I know this isnt likely the case,but why does everyone assume he doesnt watch it with the subtitles on?Just because he wants to hear people speaking english instead of chinese or whatever doesnt mean he isnt reading the subs too in order to get the more "accurate" translation.WTF difference would it make,you cant understand what the f*** they are saying in Chinese anyway.

I'm just curious why everyone automatically assumed that Mike was upset that there might not be an english dub on this disc. As far as I can tell, his post was neutral, and if I had to guess, I'd assume he would never watch a foreign movie with a dub and instead was just interested in the factors leading up to that kind of a decision for the studio and what kind of a response that will get from the general public.

Considering that most A-list foreign language movies are released on DVD without any dubbed track, it would hardly be worth mentioning unless someone saw it as a matter of concern and/or disappointment.

Hero has an English dub, as does Crouching Tiger. Based on that precedent, I'd say it's fair to assume that Flying Daggers might be given one as well.

and plenty of new members

Who needs a dub....I know how to read....so not me

Quite frankly you might be my favorite new member here.

No dubs??....YES, the horror! One has to read.

I sure hope this is a new trend- no dubs, more space for extras, quality transfer, etc.

Regards,
Pro-B

Well, we certainly we share some aesthetic sensibilities. Saw your post in regards to Kieslowski's Three Color Trilogy. Great movies. And to think, they aren't even dubbed.

Official listing from sonypictures.com:

DVD FEATURES

• Commentary with actor Ziyi Zhang and director Zhang Yimou
• Creating the Visual Effects featurette
• Making of HOUSE OF FLYING DAGGERS featurette
• Theme Song 'Lovers' Music Video
• Behind the Scenes Photo Gallery
• Costumes Gallery
• Storyboard Comparisons
• Previews
• Audio: Dolby Digital 5.1 (Mandarin, English, French)
• Subtitles: English, French
• Anamorphic Widescreen Presentation

http://www.sonypictures.com/homevide...3396091788.htm

Show respect for a film, you're an elitist. Ask a question that could be taken slightly differently, and you're a philistine.

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