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Iron_Giant 02-15-05 11:05 AM

DVD Player Sales on "Decline"
 
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articl...advdsales.html

2004 was the 1st year that DVD Sales went down.

2002 - 17,089,823
2003 - 21,994,389
2004 - 19,999,913

Sales for Jan 2005 looks to be about the same as Jan 2001/2002.

A total of 85,713,040 DVD players have been sold in the USA.

joshualane 02-15-05 11:30 AM

Not unexpected... DVD has officially hit it's peak. It was bound to happen at some point.

nodeerforamonth 02-15-05 11:40 AM

Everyone has a DVD player already (I got 6 of them!). There's only so many people in the world.

DVD Josh 02-15-05 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth
Everyone has a DVD player already (I got 6 of them!). There's only so many people in the world.

I agree with this more than with Josh's comment. One is more than enough for most people. I have nine. That's crazy.

ShagMan 02-15-05 11:42 AM

DVD isn't peaked, it's just that everybody already has a player at this point. I bet DVD *disc* sales are still increasing every year.

Josh H 02-15-05 11:47 AM

Simply approaching market saturation. Pretty much everyone that wants one has one by now.

das Monkey 02-15-05 12:04 PM


Iron_Giant

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articl...advdsales.html

2004 was the 1st year that DVD <i><b>Player</b></i> Sales went down.

Fixed. I spent thousands of dollars on DVDs in 2004 but didn't need another player.

das

Josh-da-man 02-15-05 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Simply approaching market saturation. Pretty much everyone that wants one has one by now.

Yep, everyone who wants one has one.

If we're at 90 million DVD players in the USA, then it means that there's probably about one in every home on average. Even if lots of people are sitting on multiple players, that's still a pretty decent saturation. You know, not everyone is going to want to have a player.

The real test for he medium is in DVD software sales.

speedyray 02-15-05 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth
Everyone has a DVD player already (I got 6 of them!). There's only so many people in the world.

I got 7, don;t really need any more - I bet that alot of people are in that boat.

Jackskeleton 02-15-05 02:11 PM

it has been said already, but pretty much, everyone who was in the market of getting one has gotten one or more already.

Now it's just the time to lower the prices and folks can no upgrade to better players and so forth.

reverie 02-15-05 02:34 PM

I get tired of hearing about sales being down for whatever it may be out there. I live near Detroit, so of course I always hear about auto sales being down.. Then there's stores complaining over Christmas about not making as much money as expected. Boo friggin' hoo. The country is recovering financially right now, we're in a war, and as pointed out numerous times, I'm sure people are set with what they have at this point in time. But no, the industries have to go crying to the media- the world is coming to an end, people aren't spending as much money on our products anymore!! :mad:

Mike Lowrey 02-15-05 02:51 PM

Jesus, how many freakin' players do you all need? 7? 9? How many TVs do you have? or unless you have those little portable thingies.

We've got 2 and my DVD-ROM player on my PC and that's it.

HistoryProf 02-15-05 03:07 PM

i guess technically i have four: living room, one in my office, a portable one for road trips, and my laptop: though i've never watched on on that.

Bugg 02-15-05 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by reverie
I get tired of hearing about sales being down for whatever it may be out there. I live near Detroit, so of course I always hear about auto sales being down.. Then there's stores complaining over Christmas about not making as much money as expected. Boo friggin' hoo. The country is recovering financially right now, we're in a war, and as pointed out numerous times, I'm sure people are set with what they have at this point in time. But no, the industries have to go crying to the media- the world is coming to an end, people aren't spending as much money on our products anymore!! :mad:

Seems like people where just making a simple observation, so relax dude.

Mopower 02-15-05 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by reverie
I get tired of hearing about sales being down for whatever it may be out there. I live near Detroit, so of course I always hear about auto sales being down.. Then there's stores complaining over Christmas about not making as much money as expected. Boo friggin' hoo. The country is recovering financially right now, we're in a war, and as pointed out numerous times, I'm sure people are set with what they have at this point in time. But no, the industries have to go crying to the media- the world is coming to an end, people aren't spending as much money on our products anymore!! :mad:


Yeah! You go get em!

starving dvder 02-15-05 04:28 PM

I have my main player, a portable one and my laptop has one as well. Having more than 5 dvd players is just plain crazy. :D

Duality 02-15-05 05:14 PM

Since there are approximately 100,000,000 homes in the U.S. with a VCR, 70,000,000 DVD players in U.S. doesn't mean the market is "saturated." Why 70,000,000 rather than the official 85,713,040? Simple. The 2,000,000 Laserdisc households have gone through at least 3 players by now, some people have purchased 5 or more players and returns on the early defective models, probably in the millions, are not reflected in the sales stats!

That's one to chew on! :)

RyoHazuki 02-15-05 05:32 PM

Ahhhhh!!!! Blu-ray is coming!!!! thje sky is falling !! SEll your DVDS nOW !

gutwrencher 02-15-05 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by Mike Lowrey
Jesus, how many freakin' players do you all need?

I really only need 3. My main Denon deck, a region free player and a domestic in the BR.

But I have 8, not including the PC or the X-box.

I dunno, backups? :p

Bacon 02-16-05 02:33 AM


Originally Posted by Mike Lowrey
Jesus, how many freakin' players do you all need? 7? 9? How many TVs do you have? or unless you have those little portable thingies.

We've got 2 and my DVD-ROM player on my PC and that's it.

No joke!!!!

Unless they have 5 kids who have one in their own bedroom, otherwise more than 3 is nuts!!!!!!!!

DVD Polizei 02-16-05 03:05 AM

Blame Bush.

Bastard. :mad:

reverie 02-16-05 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Bugg
Seems like people where just making a simple observation, so relax dude.

Oh, I meant no offense to the people posting or anything, just ranting about news and media. Sorry if I offended anyone. Besides, I'm at work, I'm not supposed to be in a good mood. ;)

By the way, just for the record, we've got two DVD players and one other in my computer. And one in my work computer taunting me with it's non-use.

SMB-IL 02-16-05 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth
Everyone has a DVD player already (I got 6 of them!). There's only so many people in the world.


Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I agree with this more than with Josh's comment. One is more than enough for most people. I have nine. That's crazy.

I was about to write that you two were nuts until I realized that, counting the one in the computer, I have four. :lol:
They just sneak in the house like a long haired dead girl in a Japanese horror film!

SMB-IL 02-16-05 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by reverie
...Besides, I'm at work, I'm not supposed to be in a good mood. ;)

...or posting on DVD Talk probably. :lol:

LuisL 02-16-05 08:03 AM

i have about 6, that's including my computer and my portable dvd player.

AOD 02-16-05 09:16 AM

Total of 11 here.

-3 computers
-1 Playstation 2
-5 standalone players
-1 Portable
-1 TV/DVD player in kids room

eXcentris 02-16-05 09:29 AM

And you guys with 8, 9, or 10 DVD players like to make fun of Joe Sixpack huh. Ahem... :)

The Exister 02-16-05 09:38 AM

One DVD player, one television - in the basement. The kids don't have their own TV's, nor will they ever...

When I get a projector set-up later this year, I'll probably buy another DVD player for that.

wildcatlh 02-16-05 09:41 AM

Another factor in the "saturation" is PS2 sales, which aren't included in these numbers. I know several people who use the PS2 as their primary DVD player, and there are tons of PS2s out there.

I have 5 DVD players (2 standalone, a PS2, my desktop computer and my laptop computer)

reverie 02-16-05 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by SMB-IL
...or posting on DVD Talk probably. :lol:

Sshh.. ;)

REL77 02-16-05 10:15 AM

I have a total of 10, 1 in Theater, 1 in living room, 1 in bedroom, 2 (Dvd-rom and a DVD Burner) on my PC, 2 (DVD-rom and DVD Burner) on my server, Laptop, Xbox and PS2... yeah, thats alot...

Qui Gon Jim 02-16-05 10:59 AM

What is significant about these figures is they show the market is becoming saturated. What will the studios/manufacturers push to spur sales? Why a new format perhaps. Anyone heard of a new format in the works? ;)

We have 6; One in the HT, one in the bedroom, two in the PC (ROM and RW) one in the laptop and a PS2.

solpo 02-16-05 10:59 AM

We have a measly seven (changer in HT rack, recorder in HT rack, X-Box, portable, 2 notebooks on which we watch movies, and a desktop computer). But my Dad doesn't have any!

Ginwen 02-16-05 11:10 AM

It's easy to have more than 5, they include them everywhere.

2 people in my house, and technically 8 DVD players

3 on TVs (1 per TV in main, computer room, main bedroom)
2 on computers (1 ea=>never use these for watching)
1 Portable (just got last week :))
2 on videogame systems (PS2, XBox=> never use these)

Iron_Giant 02-16-05 11:14 AM

I have bought 4 DVD players over the past 5 years, PC DVD players are not counted in the 1st post on this thread.

1. Given my 1st DVD player on my birthday (2000)
2. Replaced player when it died (2 years) with surround sound system
3. Replaced Surround Sound system when it died (1 1/2 years) with better Surround Sound system (Still working)
4. Bought another unit for my kids room (system died within one year)


5. I do have a DVD player in my PC that I never use
6. I do have an Xbox that my son now use as a DVD player, but this also does not count in the data in the 1st post

Out of the 85,713,040 DVD players sold, the number of households has to be only 50 million because of systems breaking, user upgrading and people wanting extra systems in their house.

Josh H 02-16-05 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Duality
Since there are approximately 100,000,000 homes in the U.S. with a VCR, 70,000,000 DVD players in U.S. doesn't mean the market is "saturated."

Thats why I said we're approaching market saturation. :D Thus sales are slowing down, but not to the full saturation point where the only people buying players are those getting an additional one, replacing a broken one, or young people moving into their own place.

lizard 02-16-05 11:28 AM

Wow! I guess I should feel deprived since I have only one DVD player. Don't even have a DVD drive on my computer. My old DVD player I sold to a friend (and it is still going strong) when I upgraded to progressive scan several years ago.

Not into accumulating gadgets I guess. If it works I don't fuss with it.

mookiemeister 02-16-05 11:36 AM

I've bought 6 DVD Players since 1999 when I bought my first one. I didn't buy them just to collect more players. There is a reason for so many players. My first one was a Toshiba. It has some problem when I use it to browse special features on a DVD and would lock up. I shipped it back to Toshiba for repair. They returned it but it still had problem. So when an Apex all region DVD player was on sale, I bought that. But that player has some audio problem. I can hear popping sound when I start playing a movie. So when Onkyo had a refurbished DVD player/receiver on sale, I bought it as my 3rd player. Well, it has video pixelation problem because of the problem with its mpeg decoder. I took it in video store to get it repaired. Then it had problem with discs popping out of the tray when I eject it. So I had to take it in for a 2nd time to get it repaired! So when Sony had a 400-disc DVD player onsale, I bought that as my 4th player. Then I start noticing that after I play my DVD with Sony player, the disc would have a circular mark gouged in the disc surface. I stopped playing with my Sony Player and shipped it back to Sony for repair. Then Circuit City had another sale with a combo Sony DVD Player + Receiver, so I bought it as my 5th player because my other Sony was still in the shop. So far this Sony DVD Player + Receiver hasn't had any defects like my previous players. *crossing my fingers* Oh yeah, my 6th player is a DVD-ROM drive on my PC that I have for a few years. My DVD-ROM drive doesn't play a lot of DVD. Also, the eject tray sometimes doesn't work.

So now you know the reason why I have so many DVD players. :D

nodeerforamonth 02-16-05 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Mike Lowrey
Jesus, how many freakin' players do you all need? 7? 9? How many TVs do you have? or unless you have those little portable thingies.

Each of my players has a purpose.

1) region-free player (my main player; won't play DVD-Rs though)

2) DVD recordable (make my own DVDs either from TV or convert PAL to NTSC or transfer VHS to DVD)

3) PS2 (plays ANYTHING in my region)

4) DVD-+RW on my PC (use this to copy DVDs (concerts, pro-wrestling stuff and all that))

5) RCA player in my bedroom

6) my VHS in my bedroom died, so I needed a new one. The only good deals I could get was a VHS/DVD combo, so I have two players in my bedroom.

7) DVD player in my other, older PC (not used); also my X-BOX works as a DVD player, but I don't use it for that either.

DavidH 02-16-05 11:58 AM

I own four- one on PC; one in great room; one in office; one in bedroom (though not hooked up yet).


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