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Old 01-12-05 | 06:25 PM
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New DVD Format? Mini-DVD

I went to Best Buy today and found them along with a dvd player the size of a Nintendo SP. Why hasn't anyone talked about it?

I was about to buy one but changed my mind the last second and left to see peoples responses and opinions about it.

Has anyone seen them?

Look at the website:

www.warnervideo.com/mini-dvd
Old 01-12-05 | 06:32 PM
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I saw them the other day, and $120 for the player, unless this is going to be aimed at kids, this will certainly die rather quickly.
Old 01-12-05 | 06:36 PM
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Did you look at the available titles? That shows their target market.

And that portable player with the 2.5" screen must have a great picture! I like how they say you can watch it "alone or with friends". Two hamsters would have a hard time seeing that screen.
Currently, Mini-DVDs support FULLSCREEN aspect ratio of 4x3 only.
Old 01-12-05 | 06:39 PM
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How much can they store? yeah can't see this taking off in a hurry.
Old 01-12-05 | 06:40 PM
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How much can they store?
1 hour.
Old 01-12-05 | 06:48 PM
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all kids titles....seemed like a lot of warner bros...teen titans, scooby doo and so on....there is a flyer with a ton of titles....if someone has it please scan it.

But one hour seems wrong because they were selling movies like new york minute and cinderella story. Not sure how the bitrate works on these titles. Also the animated shows seemed like the same dvds released before only set up for the small player.

These titles will play in the center tray of any home dvd player, and come in slim line cases as opposed to snappers, so thats a plus. Not sure how the MSRP works between the two releases.
Old 01-12-05 | 07:02 PM
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I think they are spread across multiple discs
Old 01-12-05 | 09:40 PM
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Available Titles:

New York Minute
A Cinderella Story
Scooby Doo 2
Ankle Breaker Volume One
Dunks Volume One
Free Willy 2
Kangaroo Jack
justice League
Scooby Doo Cyber Chase
Mucha Lucha

More Cartoons...

Coming Soon:

Beetle Juice
Catwoman
Starsky & Hutch
Replacements
Chasing Liberty
Grind
What a Girls Wants

And Many More!!!!! (according to the flyer)

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I'm beginning to assume that this dvd's hold more than 1.4 GB. T

This DVD's have a lot of potential and I think they are here to stay.
Old 01-12-05 | 10:08 PM
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Sometimes, while I'm carrying a DVD from my shelf the 1 foot to my DVD player, I think, "Gosh, this is heavy..." This might be the most important invention of the past 20 years.

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Aimed at the kids and this one should tank relatively quickly.
Old 01-13-05 | 12:29 AM
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it does seem like a launch before Xmas would have went better...but compared to the mini disc video players and gameboy advance cartoons...it could fly...not gonna be a major hit, but might work
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The format can't tank, since it's part of the dvd specs. Players might actually do well -- I'd never think that videonow would be a product to make money, but that seems to be performing adequately.
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The format can't tank, since it's part of the dvd specs.
You kidding right? Can you say DVD-Audio? That was part of the spec as well.

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DVD-Audio is not part of the spec. There is nothing that says a player must be able to play DVD-Audio.

However, these discs would theoretically play in any player, so even if the portable aspect goes belly up you could still enjoy the DVDs.

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Old 01-13-05 | 02:32 PM
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Totally off topic but since it's taken a DVD-A turn... DVD-A hasn't tanked at all, it's just very slow going at the moment. This is mostly due to the launch of Dual-Disc, which was in development for some time, and a general lack of consumer interest - due to DVD-A support not being very common on the average consumer DVD player. The format could take off, if Dual-Disc is able to convert some of the masses. That said, until Best Buy and the like offer much better B&M support, it's mostly in limbo for now... I had to buy the recent Nine Inch Nails DVD-A at Tower Records, Best Buy only stocked the SACD.

On topic... Eh, this mini-disc thingie may find a market with the kiddies, who knows... But those launch titles + FULLSCREEN only leaves a lot to be desired.
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I shake my head at both DVD-A and SACD. How can either format survive when it is so difficult to find a player that has them. Isn't Sony a big supporter of SACD? If so why have my last two Sony DVD players (mid range not low end players) not had SACD support? If Sony actually thinks I am going to buy a separate player for DVDs and SACDs they are freaking crazy, stupid or both.

If I can't get it built into the player I'm buying for DVDs I have no interest in the format. I'm not going to buy a new piece of hardware everytime a new format comes out.

BTW, the Dual Discs from what I have read, have been a failure. The CD side isn't up to CD quality standards, playback problems in various players and the discs themselves have suffered from faulty manufacturing. Many companies including Pioneer have put out warnings not to use Dual Discs in their players. Not going to win me over with that kind of product.

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Here are a couple of stories I wrote about these mini-disc players for TVShowsOnDVD, if anyone's interested:

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=2508

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=2705

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Ugh. Just what we need, another format.
Old 01-13-05 | 04:18 PM
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It's not really another format, any dvd player will play them. The anime film Metropolis actually had a mini dvd as disc 2 of the release so this format has been used in normal releases. I believe these hold 1.5GB.
Old 01-13-05 | 04:22 PM
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Call me when they release mini-DVD porn.
Old 01-13-05 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DigIt
DVD-Audio is not part of the spec. There is nothing that says a player must be able to play DVD-Audio.

However, these discs would theoretically play in any player, so even if the portable aspect goes belly up you could still enjoy the DVDs.
But all of these movies (except for maybe some of the cartoons) are already on DVD, so unless these mini-DVDs are significantly cheaper, then what's the point? You can get a regular portable DVD player for about $150 now. Plus as someone pointed out, these mini-DVDs are Fullscreen only and undoubtedly bareboned. I could see this having some limited appeal with children, similar to the Gameboy Videos for the Gameboy Advance, but at least with the Gameboy Advance you can play games on it too.
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I hope these take off with the kids' market so they'll STOP putting out foolscreen movies on regular DVD. I don't know what the point is of making a player that can only play the 3-inch discs; there was a portable CD player designed for 3-inch CDs but they could also play the regular discs with them sticking out of the edge of the player!
I bought a 3-inch DVD called "Tune Buddies" a few years ago just out of curiosity, and now you can get blank 3-inch discs but they're awfully expensive. I'd buy a few of them if they were cheaper. Yes, I'd love to see some cheap porn on 3-inch discs!
Old 01-13-05 | 05:19 PM
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I once read that the new Sony PSP (the playstation portable device coming out soon) will be able to play mini-dvd movies--will these be compatible?

Thoughts?
Old 01-13-05 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ryuryu2949
I once read that the new Sony PSP (the playstation portable device coming out soon) will be able to play mini-dvd movies--will these be compatible?

Thoughts?
The PSP uses a proprietary format of discs called UMD (Universal Media Discs, I believe), and Sony is supposed to be releasing their own movies in this UMD format. I doubt the PSP will be able to play standard mini-DVDs, although I guess it might be possible.

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Old 01-13-05 | 06:30 PM
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I shake my head at both DVD-A and SACD. How can either format survive when it is so difficult to find a player that has them.
You can play almost all DVD-A disks on a regular DVD player because most come with Dolby Digital 5.1 and many with DTS 5.1 too. So don't let anything stop you

As for mini DVD .....


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