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Rest in peace VHS
Life-changing video format gets last rites
Mon 22 November, 2004 13:59 By Jeremy Lovell LONDON (Reuters) - It changed the lifestyles of a generation but after a lingering death, the last rites have been sounded for the revolutionary VHS home video format. All over the world, Video Home System -- which let people record and watch television programmes when they wanted rather than at the whim of broadcasters -- is in headlong retreat as the Digital Versatile Disc (DVD) takes over. Accepting the inevitable, Britain's biggest high street electronics retailer Dixons announced over the weekend that it was taking VHS video players off its shelves for good. "We are now entering the digital age and the new DVD technology available represents a step-change in picture quality and convenience," said marketing director John Mewett. Dixons is not alone. Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, offers only a handful of stand-alone VHS recorders on its website. "VHS was pretty revolutionary," VHS player collector Andy Hain told Reuters on Monday. "The fact that people take them for granted so much today shows just how important they were." For more than 25 years, VHS dominated the world home entertainment market after seeing off a challenge from Sony's Betamax in the early 1980s. By the 1990s, a VHS recorder was a common feature in most homes as prices fell and technology improved -- although the art of actually programming a recorder remained a mystery to many. To add insult to injury, police grudgingly admit that in Britain at least, house burglars don't even bother to take VHS players because new ones now cost so little that no one wants a second-hand model. FILM INDUSTRY BENEFITS When DVDs first came along in the mid-1990s, sales were initially very slow but now sales of DVD players outstrip those of VHS players by a factor of 40 to one globally. Leading high street film rental company Blockbuster reports that over 80 percent of its rentals are DVDs. Far from undermining the film industry, DVD sales can make the difference between loss and profit. Internationally the market for DVDs -- currently estimated at some $15 billion (8 billion pounds) a year -- is expanding exponentially and the industry expects that some 450 million households will have a DVD player by 2008. But the explosion of DVD technology has brought with it a surge in piracy -- discs may be offer better-quality viewing but they are far more quickly copied than tapes and easier to carry. The demise of VHS vindicates the foresight of Andy Hain who has been collecting VHS players for the past 11 years and has set up his own museum of video recorders. He admits on his website, though, that the museum is rather small. "This is partly because VHS decks are a little dull," he reflects. http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle...9§ion=news |
I love when idiots think DVDs are a COMPLETE replacement for VHS. VHS sales have been dead for some time, but the thing that is finally pushing the format under are sales of the new recording formats like DVR and DVD-Rs.
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Originally posted by Green Jello I love when idiots think DVDs are a COMPLETE replacement for VHS. VHS sales have been dead for some time, but the thing that is finally pushing the format under are sales of the new recording formats like DVR and DVD-Rs. |
Exactly. Also, Dixons dumping all VHS in the UK doesn't mean anything. It's not a big deal until places like Best Buy, Wal-Mart and Circuit City dump them.
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I really don't see the big deal either way. If VHS needs to stay around for the tehnologically challenged, who cares? As long as it's not taking up shelf space for our DVDs and DVD related electronics, I say there is room in this world for both. Hell, there are still people I know who ask me where they can get a record player. Old formats may fade away, but they should never totally die out.
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Hell, the sole reason why I eventually went to DVD was the seemingly death of Widescreen VHS releases.
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Originally posted by nightmaster As long as that continues J6P doesn't HAVE to put away his VCR and figure out the new recording mediums, and he's still happy to rent tapes....UGH! |
Originally posted by Green Jello Exactly. Also, Dixons dumping all VHS in the UK doesn't mean anything. It's not a big deal until places like Best Buy, Wal-Mart and Circuit City dump them. |
Originally posted by calhoun07 I really don't see the big deal either way. If VHS needs to stay around for the tehnologically challenged, who cares? As long as it's not taking up shelf space for our DVDs and DVD related electronics, I say there is room in this world for both. |
Originally posted by DVD Josh Best Buy and Circuit City already have. Walmart won't until it's deader than dead, they'll sell them until you can't buy VCRs anymore. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....&type=category and so does Circuit: http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/categ...6+20012880&c=1 I'm a buyer for a major A/V retail chain. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about. |
Originally posted by Green Jello Where do you get that? Best Buy still sells VHS VCRs. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....&type=category and so does Circuit: http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/categ...6+20012880&c=1 I'm a buyer for a major A/V retail chain. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about. |
CC dumped VHS cassette sales over 2 years ago, but still carries them on their website.
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I'll continue to fire up my trusty VCR until all of my most wanted films are available and uncut on DVD.
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Originally posted by philo I'll continue to fire up my trusty VCR until all of my most wanted films are available and uncut on DVD. I have more than 500 movies on VHS that have yet to appear on DVD, many of which may <i>never</i> show up. And that's not counting another several hundred movies taped commercial free (and often OAR) from TCM, AMC (when they were still a decent channel), etc. that have never been available. |
Originally posted by Green Jello I love when idiots think DVDs are a COMPLETE replacement for VHS. VHS sales have been dead for some time, but the thing that is finally pushing the format under are sales of the new recording formats like DVR and DVD-Rs. I idiots that think that DVR and DVD-R weren't made popular by the increased demand for DVDs. |
huh?
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I still need the VCR for that porn that never seemed to make it's way onto DVD.
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Originally posted by sracer Why Ugh?! Why do you care if J6P still rents and buys VHS? Personally, I wish J6P would go BACK to VHS and leave DVD alone. Ever since DVD players dropped below the $100-$150 mark, there has been a dramatic decrease in the condition of rental discs. Discs are more scuffed, scratched, and smudged than ever before. Not a big deal for rentals, but when rental places have sales on those discs, it is virtually impossible to get a disc in good condition anymore. |
Originally posted by ianholm I still need the VCR for that porn that never seemed to make it's way onto DVD. |
Originally posted by huh? I idiots that think that DVR and DVD-R weren't made popular by the increased demand for DVDs. |
Originally posted by huh? I idiots that think that DVR and DVD-R weren't made popular by the increased demand for DVDs. |
Linear, Non-digital, easily degradable media is a dinosaur. I for one have been donating VHS tapes replaced by DVD to the library, and even they are reluctant to take them.
I look forward to the day when I bring my 2 VCRs to the library as a donation, along with my last replaced VHS tape the ONLY VHS tape I still watch from time to time is Robin Hood: Men in Tights (R1) becasue there is currenlty no R1 DVD release of the title - aisde from that, I havent watched any VHS tapes since the year 2001 DIE Magnetic tape, DIE |
Anyone know where that VCR Museum is? I'd like to plan a visit with the kids one day. :)
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Originally posted by mr_jbloggs Anyone know where that VCR Museum is? I'd like to plan a visit with the kids one day. :) http://www.totalrewind.org/ |
vc/r wont be tottaly obsolute yet. pre-corded video tapes can stopped being produced.while recordable videotape still can be offered.
however,with that being said,there is still a fair share of movies on videotapes(pre-recorded) that still need to in the digital domain yet. I have yet to see cry-babyand the chase(1994) two films that I am awaiting to take the pludge. granted v.c.r has given consumer the abilty to watch alot,and record stuff,so I give credit where credit is due.so thank vhs and vc.r. now we have reached the time with compact disc,laserdisc(remember those) video cd's cd-rom,that it would one day make room for newer technolgy. while there will be always newer electronics out there,the upcoming blU RAY. I think it is safe to say,that the majority of homes have at least a dvd player.some tivo,others a dvd recorder or and/or both. I dont think we will see magnetic tape die off just yet,give or take a few years and it will go the way side of vinyl records and audio tapes. I love my dvd recorder and dvd player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Originally posted by sdk If j6p never found dvd's, do you think studios would put their money into dvd's. Not likely. |
Wow you can actually SMELL the superiority complexes in this thread. Way to go guys!
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Originally posted by sracer The only thing that the additional awareness brought was anamorphic releases of Zoolander and Happy Gilmore. What J6P brought to DVD was increased selection, decreased prices, and a huge viable format. A format where Blue Underground can release some obscure film that only a handful of people have ever heard of -- and still get shelf space at Best Buy and get carried as a selection at Columbia House. What would have happened if they hadn't embraced DVD? See Laserdisc for an example... fewer releases, MUCH higher prices, difficult to find at retail stores, and a format that would collapse as soon as the Next Big Thing arrived. $19.99 Tron DVD $129.99 Tron laserdisc $24.99 Night of the Living Dead Elite DVD $89.99 Night of the Living Dead Elite Laserdisc I'm not happy to return to those days. I thank the powers that be that people flock to Wal-Mart to buy the latest DVD of Zoolander or whatever. |
Originally posted by bboisvert Not exactly. |
I love DVD, don't get me wrong, but am I the only one who likes the fact that a VHS cassette stays on the same spot when you stop watching for the day, and it's really easy to continue watching the next day?
My DVD player does not do that, unless if I keep it powered up which I do not like. I think both media still have a place next to each other in this world. |
If anything needs to die its the J6P phrase.
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Originally posted by LolaRennt I love DVD, don't get me wrong, but am I the only one who likes the fact that a VHS cassette stays on the same spot when you stop watching for the day, and it's really easy to continue watching the next day? My DVD player does not do that, unless if I keep it powered up which I do not like. |
Originally posted by marty888 If I leave a DVD in my player, and turn it off, I only have to hit "play" while it's loading once I turn it back on - and it picks up right where it left off. (Philips 747) |
Originally posted by MJKTool If anything needs to die its the J6P phrase. |
Originally posted by marty888 If I leave a DVD in my player, and turn it off, I only have to hit "play" while it's loading once I turn it back on - and it picks up right where it left off. (Philips 747) |
Originally posted by bboisvert Not exactly. What J6P brought to DVD was increased selection, decreased prices Hell even retail at BB the opening week price on most major releases was $14.99. That crept up to $15.99 and now it $16.99-$17.99 |
Originally posted by Timber I have to disagree on the pricing. 4-5 years ago when internet bargining was in it's hey day I was seeing prices that I could only hope for today. Overall retail prices of DVDs has dropped over time. You may not be getting 3 DVDs for $1 like 800.com was offering. But you can still get discs for dirt-cheap, relatively speaking. |
Originally posted by LolaRennt I love DVD, don't get me wrong, but am I the only one who likes the fact that a VHS cassette stays on the same spot when you stop watching for the day, and it's really easy to continue watching the next day? My DVD player does not do that, unless if I keep it powered up which I do not like. I think both media still have a place next to each other in this world. And if any of you invent it, cut me in on the royalty for the idea. |
Originally posted by bboisvert You may not be getting 3 DVDs for $1 like 800.com was offering. The good old days. |
Originally posted by Timber I have to disagree on the pricing. 4-5 years ago when internet bargining was in it's hey day I was seeing prices that I could only hope for today. Hell even retail at BB the opening week price on most major releases was $14.99. That crept up to $15.99 and now it $16.99-$17.99 edit: and you use Best Buy as your example? That's a poor example because ever since they introduced their rewards card, their prices have gone up across the board. Yeah, you may get coupons every now and then if you are a rewards memeber but I will save my money on a rewards card and find my DVDs elsewhere. I have a friend who is a rewards member and saved five dollars on a box set recently, but I found it online for nearly 20.00 less than Best Buy was selling it for, so what is the point of Best Buy anymore? Even if you are a rewards member. |
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