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tdoane78 10-17-04 06:57 PM

So much hate in the forum now adays. I remember when it was a lot less harsh and less egos involved. Now, well seems everything is just one threadcrap. I long for the days when we didn't have the word threadcrap nor a sticky to define it for everyone.....

To keep somewhat on topic, I was looking forward to the DVD of this film, however it seemed the original release is just not worth picking up with the good possibility of a DC eventually coming out.

-Tim

Jackskeleton 10-17-04 07:29 PM

Well I wonder if there is going to be a directors cut at all. Usually R2 would get the 2 disc super edition off the bat since fox doesn't want to try double dipping in other markets just yet, but has no problem with doing it in R1 titles.

jaeufraser 10-17-04 07:52 PM

Well, jack, do you think it's possible that PWSA actually has anything to put in a director's cut? Or that he was probably just blowing smoke up our asses trying to skirt blame for his crappy movie. I'm betting on the latter. I'd prefer to have a DVD where they discuss who thought hiring paul was a good idea. I'm just hoping the decent financial showing of this film and DVD will give us AvP2 directed by...not PWSA.

And the best way to deal with threadcraps is to ignore them. Otherwise...well...you get big arguments about threadcraps.

Jackskeleton 10-17-04 08:23 PM

From all that I know of this film. It was started off as a pg-13 rating and I've been very well known in other discussions to stand by that rating in saying that it could have been a good movie regardless of the rating... if it had a better script. The stuff that was deleted was nothing more then any other typical film. The shots were filmed around that pg-13 banner where you see only the before shot of claws slashing/alien mouth opening or a blood splatter in the background or whatever other tricks to use.

The crowd confronted P.W.S.A in a Q&A about it and I think he was just trying to avoid mob justice by pinning it on Fox when in reality P.W.S.A. had a lot of the control in both being the director and script writer of this film.

I do not think that we will see a directors cut like we want to see. If anything it will be a directors cut in the sense of Club Dread. Where it's not really a DC at all.

Heartagram 10-17-04 09:59 PM

Tiz a deffinite shame, such a great idea gets butchered. Oh well hopefully we can get a DC with something like an R or even Un-Rated.

darqleo 10-18-04 01:19 AM

http://home.earthlink.net/~darqleo/images/avp.jpg

Jackskeleton 10-18-04 03:44 AM

:lol: :lol:

Now that is a classic picture

:lol: :lol:

NoirTech 10-18-04 10:54 AM

...and a Predator's legs have never looked hotter in fishnets.


.....wait what?

ReduxGuy 10-29-04 11:48 PM

Well, Tom Woodward posted the cover up.

http://www.dvdanswers.com/index.php?...5129&n=1&burl=

Looks pretty cool, but I'd still rather have a 2-disc with both versions and other shite.

Jackskeleton 10-30-04 01:43 AM

interesting that they decided to put the different faces on the two versions.

Daniel L 10-30-04 01:50 AM

Seriously, who in this thread is actually buying this?

QuiGonJosh 10-30-04 04:08 AM

I will! :D

QuiGonJosh 10-30-04 04:09 AM

btw...thats some beautiful cover art!

Jackskeleton 10-30-04 04:35 AM

I will buy this movie even though I thought it was total shit. The simple fact is it has aliens and predators fighting. added to that the cheapness I will be getting it at leads me to conclude that I will buy it.

Seantn 10-30-04 08:38 AM

And you're loyal to Fox, yada yada yada.... :)

Romerojpg 10-30-04 09:32 AM

Well I saw the film and thought it was pretty much as I expected, a superb film in pretty much every single way, no idea what anyone else was expecting, but I guess I am in the minority, but like I care.

The dvd, well at the moment they have announced an ok dvd, but looks like I defininalty wont shop for it in america, its pretty much a dvd place to avoid latley for fox dvds, other regions are looking a lot better at the moment and they may well beat this dvd thats for sure. The American cover art is crap, very poor.

Daniel L 10-30-04 12:58 PM


I will buy this movie even though I thought it was total shit.
Does that make any sense?

Jackskeleton 10-30-04 01:56 PM

Sometimes you buy something for other factors. Sound, a scene, visuals, etc. The story sucked, but you have to admit that when that predator jump flipped and stabbed the queen it was cool looking.

and at a low first week price, I don't see why it wouldn't make sense to own it for some aspect of it.

C.H.U.D. 10-30-04 02:22 PM


Originally posted by Jackskeleton
and at a low first week price, I don't see why it wouldn't make sense to own it for some aspect of it.
Umm, it would make sense not own it because 1. It sucks (and you admit that) 2. How is Fox going to know this sucks if everyone buys it. High DVD sales could mean a P.W. Anderson directed sequel. Do you want to be responsible for that?

Mike Lowrey 10-30-04 07:41 PM


Originally posted by QuiGonJosh
btw...thats some beautiful cover art!
Would you believe that some folks on the DVDAnswers site have said, "The WS art is cool, but the FS art could be better."? I'm like "could be better"? They're the same!...excpet they're transposed.

MasterofDVD 10-30-04 08:51 PM

Not the best movie but I've paid to see and own worse. I only wanted a few things from this movie and I got most of what I wanted. So I'll gladly pay the 15.00 - 17.00 they will hopefully be asking for this one.

I'm glad the Widescreen has the Predator as the focus because I'm more of a Predator fan than I am Alien fan even if I only own the Predator SE DVD and yet I have all the Alien films.

dcprules 10-30-04 10:59 PM

Some cool cover art, but I'd rather have the Alien as the focus instead of the Predator for the widescreen. Still haven't seen this film, but I'm sure it'll at least be worth a rent.

Jackskeleton 10-30-04 11:06 PM


Originally posted by C.H.U.D.
Umm, it would make sense not own it because 1. It sucks (and you admit that) 2. How is Fox going to know this sucks if everyone buys it. High DVD sales could mean a P.W. Anderson directed sequel. Do you want to be responsible for that?

Tough shit buddy, but Fox already has pushed P.W.S.A. to pen the script for Alien 5. AvP did decent numbers for what it was. It is already considered a success to the company. Enough to warrest the franchise to be given to P.W.S.A. for more treatment.

So..

1.) It does suck and it's P.W.S.A. fault, but it had a few moments to it.

2.) It doesn't matter how many buy it because P.W.S.A. is already given the go ahead to fuck up the rest of the franchise.

DVD sales on this is just iceing on the cake for fox at this point. It doesn't matter if you don't buy.. you are already fucked for the franchise.

Fox wont consider this a failure because it's already a success to them. Simple as that.

Jackskeleton 10-30-04 11:08 PM

Also, buying this will show fox that there is interest in revisiting the film in the form of a Directors Cut or Special edition. If no one buys it, sales will not show that they could make a profit off another double dip Fox style.

Romerojpg 10-31-04 08:36 AM

Tuff Shit for everyone I guess,
I hope Anderson directs all the rest of the Franshise's and hope they all make loads of cash. HAHAHAHAHAHA that may shut some up then :)

but it wont stop people wantting to pay for the dvd I bet as they want to complete there collections.


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