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Dead 10-14-04 12:14 PM


Originally posted by C.H.U.D.
I'm sorry.

Please don't be insulting toward other members. If you don't want this, don't buy it... but there's no reason to take this type of attitude toward someone who is interested in this release.

El-Kabong 10-14-04 12:26 PM

Ah - but I didnt just say "___________ is a crappy movie" (or in this case "AvP is a crappy movie"). I said that no amout of extra footage and directors cut control will save this crappy movie.

Huge diffrence. Worlds apart.

Cornelius1047 10-14-04 01:49 PM

And yet we speak the same language. And both have aliens that have inhabited our planet for centuries before we were born.

Or something to that effect.

I wasn't really paying attention, sorry.

K

Cornholio 10-14-04 02:34 PM

hell ill pick it up

ReduxGuy 10-14-04 04:03 PM

Even though it wasn't a great movie, it needs to be a 2-Disc (like the Quad. discs) with both versions, DTS, Anderson/Lathan/Henriksen/Whyte/Woodruff/Gillis commentary, various documentaries and featurttes on the making of the film, the web featurettes, additional deleted scenes, interviews, screen tests, the scrreenplay, various still galleries and creature designs, web trailers, teasers and trailers, and TV spots, as well as a whole bunch of other great stuff.

Jackskeleton 10-14-04 04:36 PM

Re: Re: Re: ALIEN vs. PREDATOR in January...
 

Originally posted by Cornelius1047
Okay, those are definitely threadcraps, according to this:

Then again, I'm absolutely guilty of taking this thread off-topic and such. I'm doing the "don't", so to speak.

K

Got to say you got me there. ;)

I suppose the other touch and go post looked like they weren't crossing the line and that could make the others seem on that same level of not entirely thread crap.

I guess it's just a matter of presentation and perception of the text.

Well played corn, well played. ;)

Jackskeleton 10-14-04 04:41 PM


Originally posted by ReduxGuy
Even though it wasn't a great movie, it needs to be a 2-Disc (like the Quad. discs) with both versions, DTS, Anderson/Lathan/Henriksen/Whyte/Woodruff/Gillis commentary, various documentaries and featurttes on the making of the film, the web featurettes, additional deleted scenes, interviews, screen tests, the scrreenplay, various still galleries and creature designs, web trailers, teasers and trailers, and TV spots, as well as a whole bunch of other great stuff.

Well P.W.S.A. was barking about wanting a DC of it released of it on dvd when confronted with an angry mob at a Q&A about the film. Fox is liking the whole double dipping idea lately. So who really knows if that DC exist or if Fox will do that.

QuiGonJosh 10-14-04 04:49 PM

I didnt like this movie...but I'm probably going to buy the DVD...no idea why...but I will...

TomOpus 10-14-04 05:42 PM

I'm not sure what I'll do. I might have to wait to see what the specs are and if there is a DC announced.

The movie just gave me a strange feeling. There were Aliens.. and there were Predators... but it just didn't FEEL like an Alien or Predator movie.

If the specs are good, I'll probably still buy the damn thing. God, I'm such a DVD slut.

pro-bassoonist 10-14-04 05:53 PM


Originally posted by TomOpus


The movie just gave me a strange feeling. There were Aliens.. and there were Predators... but it just didn't FEEL like an Alien or Predator movie.

Exactly.

Pro-B

C.H.U.D. 10-15-04 01:15 AM


Originally posted by Dead
Please don't be insulting toward other members. If you don't want this, don't buy it... but there's no reason to take this type of attitude toward someone who is interested in this release.
Oh Lordy! I'll never lead in to temptation again!

Nagheenanajar 10-15-04 08:25 AM

I didn't particularly enjoy this when I saw it on the big screen (thank God for the movie cash). If it a worthwhile DC emerges I will rent it and I'll go from there to re-evaluate the film.

NotoriousDRE 10-15-04 05:05 PM

What C.H.U.D. said didnt bother me, I didnt take it as insulting. I meant what I said about loving AVP, but i knew someone would take a stab at me for admitting it. It's all good though,I'm sure theres members here that like movies that i think suck but i would just keep those thoughts to myself...everyone's entitled to there own opinion.

Peace

The Monkees 10-16-04 12:38 AM

I didn't "THREADCRAP" either...I just said that W.S. is a crappy director and couldn't direct his way out of a paper bag.

I do think that a special edition or director's cut may do the movie justice, a bare bones? What is wrong with Fox? Stupid double dipping!

dmpre99 10-16-04 02:12 PM

Isnt there a directors cut coming out. I am pretty sure of this cuz i read that paul andersen was livid when fox told them he had to make it PG13. He was also taking about how there were more gore scenes and more fighting between the aliens and predator.

Kant 10-16-04 06:58 PM

R3 is coming out i nov.
http://www12.cd-wow.com/detail_resul...uct_code=14538
Maybe it will use the same transfer and cut...

Jackskeleton 10-16-04 08:51 PM


Originally posted by dmpre99
Isnt there a directors cut coming out. I am pretty sure of this cuz i read that paul andersen was livid when fox told them he had to make it PG13. He was also taking about how there were more gore scenes and more fighting between the aliens and predator.
You should really try reading the thread before you post as it has been covered.

to answer your question bluntly, as of now. No, it doesn't seem like there is a directors cut coming soon as P.W.S.A likes to blow a lot of smoke at times.

jaeufraser 10-16-04 09:08 PM

You see, this is the problem I have with many of these franchise genre films. I did not like this movie, much like PWSA's last movie Resident Evil. But, I'm a huge fan of Alien, Predator, and Resident Evil. So goddammit I'm going to buy this DVD if for no other reason to watch it multiple times and find more things I dislike about it and hoping each time maybe I'll actually like it. I did it for Resident Evil, I'll probably do it for this movie.

Damn me and my dvd buying habits. Nonetheless, I could care less about a DC cut since even PWSA's Resident Evil wasn't really that gory. And really all I was hoping for in this film after he signed up was a gory exploitation movie since I really didn't expect quality filmmaking.

Geist 10-16-04 09:27 PM

There might not be a "Director's Cut," if Anderson was just blowing smoke, but I don't doubt that this is one they'll double dip on down the road.

natevines 10-16-04 09:34 PM


Originally posted by The Monkees
People are actually going to BUY this?

Why? The movie was horrible and W.S. has ruined the Alien & Predator series!

Anyway, to each his own.

Precisely.
This movie, to me, epitomizes the downfall of cinema. It was obvious that no one cared about the quality; just another piece of crap that combines two classic film sagas. The fact that it was PG-13 is just saying 'Yeah, we don't care if it's a good film, just go see it'.
You could argue that films have always been made for money, but at least people used to care about the quality of the films they were making.

The Cow 10-16-04 09:49 PM


Originally posted by The Monkees
People are actually going to BUY this?

Why? The movie was horrible and W.S. has ruined the Alien & Predator series!


Originally posted by The Monkees
I didn't "THREADCRAP" either...I just said that W.S. is a crappy director and couldn't direct his way out of a paper bag.

I do think that a special edition or director's cut may do the movie justice, a bare bones? What is wrong with Fox? Stupid double dipping!

Yeah, you did take a :crap: . Your comment has nothing to do with the DVD release.

I'll be picking this one up. Love to see some good extras!

Jackskeleton 10-16-04 10:04 PM

I love how the discussion about if someone thread crapped or not is just as bad as the thread crapping. Do we really need everyone being the judge on what a thread crap is and point it out in every aspect?

fumanstan 10-16-04 10:06 PM


Originally posted by Jackskeleton
I love how the discussion about if someone thread crapped or not is just as bad as the thread crapping. Do we really need everyone being the judge on what a thread crap is and point it out in every aspect?
Yes. How else will the thead crappers know what they're doing :)

Jackskeleton 10-16-04 10:37 PM

By forum mods. Usually I get a good newspaper slap to the head when I play <s>cop</s> mod. Best bet is just report it to the mod and let them work it out. No need to boggle down a thread with the conversation of what is a thread crap or not.

The Cow 10-16-04 11:50 PM


Originally posted by Jackskeleton
I love how the discussion about if someone thread crapped or not is just as bad as the thread crapping. Do we really need everyone being the judge on what a thread crap is and point it out in every aspect?
And I love the posts discussing the threadcrapping...

Do we really need to judge that? -wink-

Jackskeleton 10-17-04 03:47 AM

Oh, I'm sure the discussing about the post dicussion is going to be the real treat. Much like John stewart on crossfire. It will be very enjoyable.

What is there left to discuss in this thread? We got a hint of detail about the disc and nothing more. We only have our reaction to the movie to discuss left.

chanster 10-17-04 09:30 AM

Paul Anderson raped my childhood.

Romerojpg 10-17-04 09:44 AM

Totally pointless threads like this should be shut down!

Some people care about the dvd and the film, obviously most who post dont and there should be 2 threads, one for people who like the film and acctually want to discus a film and dvd, and one for people who want to mess about and bitch and moan like children!

I Have liked all Andersons work and really just becuase the majority of people hate his films means crap all to me, I love Resident Evil and compared to most overated directors in Holywood who get all the awards and pap like that he is a master, each to there own and stop you bloody moaning!


get back to your Threadcapping crappness or even better get a Mod to do there jobs and shut it down.

buckee1 10-17-04 09:47 AM


Originally posted by Kant
R3 is coming out i nov.
http://www12.cd-wow.com/detail_resul...uct_code=14538
Maybe it will use the same transfer and cut...

Thanks for the link. I ordered one this morning.

chanster 10-17-04 10:39 AM


Some people care about the dvd and the film, obviously most who post dont and there should be 2 threads, one for people who like the film and acctually want to discus a film and dvd, and one for people who want to mess about and bitch and moan like children!
Great! There is nothing to talk about in the DVD set. Release date is January. R3 seems to be coming out a bit earlier. No other info is available...put it in on the release calendar and nothing else..

Secondly, your definition of "care" is ridicoulous. Obviously Jack has cared about this movie, because mostly he cares about the two franchises, its just that the movie sucked and therefore that care has turned to the "Dark Side of Care" which is belittlement.

fumanstan 10-17-04 11:07 AM


Originally posted by Romerojpg
Totally pointless threads like this should be shut down!

Some people care about the dvd and the film, obviously most who post dont and there should be 2 threads, one for people who like the film and acctually want to discus a film and dvd, and one for people who want to mess about and bitch and moan like children!

I Have liked all Andersons work and really just becuase the majority of people hate his films means crap all to me, I love Resident Evil and compared to most overated directors in Holywood who get all the awards and pap like that he is a master, each to there own and stop you bloody moaning!


get back to your Threadcapping crappness or even better get a Mod to do there jobs and shut it down.

There was plenty of discussion of the film in Movie talk when the movie hit theaters.

Romerojpg 10-17-04 11:57 AM

Ohh I forgot they are talking about the dvd on here aint they.

ohh no my mistake they aint doing that that either :)

Jackskeleton 10-17-04 05:45 PM


Originally posted by Romerojpg
Totally pointless threads like this should be shut down!

Some people care about the dvd and the film, obviously most who post dont and there should be 2 threads, one for people who like the film and acctually want to discus a film and dvd, and one for people who want to mess about and bitch and moan like children!

I Have liked all Andersons work and really just becuase the majority of people hate his films means crap all to me, I love Resident Evil and compared to most overated directors in Holywood who get all the awards and pap like that he is a master, each to there own and stop you bloody moaning!


get back to your Threadcapping crappness or even better get a Mod to do there jobs and shut it down.

Oh, ok, Now I see why you are mad. Because you like P.W.S.A Well that is your opinion and it's yours to have. But not everyone will follow your opinion and many don't. That's not to say that they can not have their own opinion. You've just stated that their opinion doesn't matter.. which seems odd because if it didn't you wouldn't care about what they say.

As for threads like this shutting down. Well it's still a discussion about the dvd to some extent. reaction to the dvd and it's, at current time, lack of directors cut, which was suggested by P.W.S.A.

Either way, telling the mods to "do their job" doesn't really seem like you give a damn about the mods and their choices and feel that they aren't meeting your expectations Kind of harsh considering how big the forums are and they can't be in every thread unless you point it out to them.

Besides that, here is some conversation about the film. ol' paulie stated that it was the studio's fault for cutting up the film to PG-13 when the project, from all accounts, was set up from the get go to be PG-13. He stated that the added stuff would make it more enjoyable, but from what we see in this press release, that is not nearly enough to bring this movie back to what it could have been. So currently people are let down a little from this news of it's release.

The Cow 10-17-04 06:10 PM


Originally posted by Jackskeleton
blah blah..
As for threads like this shutting down. Well it's still a discussion about the dvd to some extent. reaction to the dvd and it's, at current time, lack of directors cut, which was suggested by P.W.S.A.

Besides that, there is some conversation about the film.
yadda yadda...


Originally posted by Jackskeleton
What is there left to discuss in this thread? We got a hint of detail about the disc and nothing more.
Pick a side.

Jackskeleton 10-17-04 06:21 PM

In the top I'm pointing out what currently was being discussed when someone suggest that the thread should be shut down. In the bottom I was asking what was left to discuss. Notice the time line, the bottom was said first some time ago and then discussion followed. My question was answered with what folks said.

I'm pointing out the obvious. but considering the train wreck so far and the off hand discussion of a discussion of a discussion. This train wreck really did have the shit hit the wall and is not even a shadow of it's former self.

tdoane78 10-17-04 06:57 PM

So much hate in the forum now adays. I remember when it was a lot less harsh and less egos involved. Now, well seems everything is just one threadcrap. I long for the days when we didn't have the word threadcrap nor a sticky to define it for everyone.....

To keep somewhat on topic, I was looking forward to the DVD of this film, however it seemed the original release is just not worth picking up with the good possibility of a DC eventually coming out.

-Tim

Jackskeleton 10-17-04 07:29 PM

Well I wonder if there is going to be a directors cut at all. Usually R2 would get the 2 disc super edition off the bat since fox doesn't want to try double dipping in other markets just yet, but has no problem with doing it in R1 titles.

jaeufraser 10-17-04 07:52 PM

Well, jack, do you think it's possible that PWSA actually has anything to put in a director's cut? Or that he was probably just blowing smoke up our asses trying to skirt blame for his crappy movie. I'm betting on the latter. I'd prefer to have a DVD where they discuss who thought hiring paul was a good idea. I'm just hoping the decent financial showing of this film and DVD will give us AvP2 directed by...not PWSA.

And the best way to deal with threadcraps is to ignore them. Otherwise...well...you get big arguments about threadcraps.

Jackskeleton 10-17-04 08:23 PM

From all that I know of this film. It was started off as a pg-13 rating and I've been very well known in other discussions to stand by that rating in saying that it could have been a good movie regardless of the rating... if it had a better script. The stuff that was deleted was nothing more then any other typical film. The shots were filmed around that pg-13 banner where you see only the before shot of claws slashing/alien mouth opening or a blood splatter in the background or whatever other tricks to use.

The crowd confronted P.W.S.A in a Q&A about it and I think he was just trying to avoid mob justice by pinning it on Fox when in reality P.W.S.A. had a lot of the control in both being the director and script writer of this film.

I do not think that we will see a directors cut like we want to see. If anything it will be a directors cut in the sense of Club Dread. Where it's not really a DC at all.

Heartagram 10-17-04 09:59 PM

Tiz a deffinite shame, such a great idea gets butchered. Oh well hopefully we can get a DC with something like an R or even Un-Rated.


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