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Old 10-11-04 | 03:17 PM
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Agreed, ROCKSTRONGO, just chalk that comment up to an illinformed DLP basher.
Old 10-11-04 | 03:23 PM
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Doe it mean the DVD is best viewed on a DLP HDTV than on a LCD HDTV (or plasma, whatever)?
Old 10-11-04 | 05:08 PM
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How on earth does what I said leave me as an "uninformed DLP basher"?

What I said was based on numerous hours of research and observation.

I won't argue for a second that DLP are incapable of rendering high resolution images. What I do not think they can do well is render high paced images without leaving blocky biproducts from previous frames. I think this is attributed to a delay between the signals and the osscilation of the mirrors along with the color wheel.
Similarly, I do not see plasmas having the same problem, as they are simply charing a gaseous body directly instead of going through additional mediums to render the final product.

And if Star Wars may look good on a DLP. I saw a few seconds at the store, but that isn't enough to give a fair analysis. Only thing I can say is the blacks weren't black enough.

However, I suggest you visit this thread again in Jan an give tell us how Sky Captain was on your DLP. I truely hope it does look great. I just don't think it will. Besides, the feel the film is trying to convey also will probably not help - but I think somebody already mentioned that.
Old 10-11-04 | 05:38 PM
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My Runco DLP front projector looks as good as any DLP cinema projector. Blacks are deep and the overall image integrity is outstanding. Shy of DVD delivering an HD image, my upconverted disc images look superb.

One closing footnote, I create 24P HD images for a living and use Texas Instruments DLP technology on a regular basis for exhibition and have not encountered any of the blocking associated with fast-moving images that you've mentioned. Sorry, but the DLP you must be referencing are cheap, low-end consumer projectors incapable of rendering properly black levels. So far as plasma is concerned, it doesn't hold a candle to my Runco projector. Plasma simply put sucks.
Old 10-11-04 | 05:38 PM
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When displayed on my DLP home theatre system, I'm confident that image quality will far exceed the current theatrical release.
I hope that this answers your question?
Unless your source is D-VHS, I doubt it. If you're watching a DVD, the downconverted 480p image won't look as good as the original 1080p that has been transferred to film.
Old 10-11-04 | 05:40 PM
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Forget about consumer D-VHS as I play HD-CAM original masters in full 1080P and they look incredible. DVD looks as good as it possibly can upconverted with my Denon player.
Old 10-11-04 | 06:24 PM
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Personally, I don't consider a $3500 projector to be "cheap, low-end" commercial grade.

However, I could be wrong; in which case I would appreciate you informing of what else there is out there instead of turning this into a dlp vs plasma thread.
Old 10-11-04 | 06:33 PM
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Re: Pass

Originally posted by king3style
Highly overated movie.
How can a movie that underperformed at the box office and has yet to really find an audience be overrated?
Old 10-11-04 | 07:09 PM
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Superman07, this thread was a street date alert for SKY CAPTAIN. $3,500 is not a cheap projector, but it isn't the commercial grade found in DLP cinemas and high-end front projector home systems. All that I am saying is that my $20,000 DLP front projection system looks as good as any DLP cinema system. No insult to your equipment, just a clarification of consumer goods vs. commercial equipment.

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Old 10-11-04 | 07:37 PM
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Re: Re: Pass

Originally posted by C.H.U.D.
How can a movie that underperformed at the box office and has yet to really find an audience be overrated?

Point Taken. I guess I should explain myself. Due to the huge ad campaign that ran for this movie, I was quite aware of it coming out. I was blown away by the previews, because how new and fresh the movie looked. This peaked my interest and after reading more positive reviews from critics and imdb users, some even calling it the beginning of the next big triology, made my anticipation grow even more. So personally this movie was hyped up for me, and after seeing it, I agree the movie had a new fresh style to it that was very creative, however, the story and the characters I found very uninteresting. Don't mean to thread crap, just my opinion.
Old 10-11-04 | 08:00 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Pass

Originally posted by king3style
Don't mean to thread crap, just my opinion.
Yet you did. Maybe you can show some self-restraint next time and post such comments in the appropriate thread.
Old 10-11-04 | 08:06 PM
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I'll definitely be picking this one up, and I'll probably end up seeing it at least once more while it's still playing in theaters.

It's not incredibly deep and doesn't have the best acting 'EVER' but it's just so much fun. A very refreshing movie experience, in my opinion.
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Re: Re: Re: Pass

Originally posted by king3style
Don't mean to thread crap, just my opinion.
In the future, please try to keep from making comments that are unrelated/contrary to the purpose of the thread.

Thanks.
Old 10-11-04 | 09:52 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Pass

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In the future, please try to keep from making comments that are unrelated/contrary to the purpose of the thread.

Thanks.
Okay, Im sorry. I read the policy on threadcraps and fully understand now.

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Old 10-11-04 | 11:41 PM
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One of the best movies this year.

I hope we get an SE that features a color transfer as well as the director intended monochrome transfer.
Old 10-11-04 | 11:48 PM
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Yep going to pick this up
Old 10-12-04 | 12:15 AM
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I wasn't impressed when I saw it at the theaters. Movie bombed at the box office. Only $33 mil so far. Definitely costed more than $33M to make the film. I'll probably wait until it shows up in some 2 for $15 deals.
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$3,500 is not a cheap projector, but it isn't the commercial grade found in DLP cinemas and high-end front projector home systems. All that I am saying is that my $20,000 DLP front projection system looks as good as any DLP cinema system. No insult to your equipment, just a clarification of consumer goods vs. commercial equipment.
And I appreciate that. I was not aware there was such a wide range in the DLP line.
If you have a chance and wouldn't mind PMing me I'd appreciate if you could pass along some information or some links for me to read.
Old 10-12-04 | 06:57 AM
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A good place to start is th DLP official website:

http://www.dlp.com/dlp_cinema/default.asp?bhcp=1

Secondly is the RUNCO projector site:

http://www.runco.com/

As you will find there are indeed many grades of DLP equipment.
Any further questions, feel free to post here.
Old 10-12-04 | 07:59 AM
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I thought this was a discussion about Sky Captain?

Maybe this should be moved to DVD Hardware.
Old 10-12-04 | 08:04 AM
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All future discussions should be restricted to SKY CAPTAIN and not its theatrical or future DVD presentation. My last posting should give all readers enough info regarding DLP, both theatrically and commercially, to fully appreciate 24P HD originated presentations.
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I wasn't impressed when I saw it at the theaters. Movie bombed at the box office. Only $33 mil so far. Definitely costed more than $33M to make the film.
It cost about $40M to make. Not that much more.
Old 10-12-04 | 12:47 PM
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Since it was all done on blue and had no location shots plus the actors are not in the 'paid way too much to make the movie worth it' grade it was made at a very reasonable price. Between the theatre and DVD sales they will double their investment (I believe). I read somewhere the creators wanted to make a 'home movie' using a G5 that was good enough for the theatre.
Old 10-12-04 | 01:08 PM
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Execpt DLPs are whorrible.

If you haven't already seen the movie there is lots of fast paced action and many explosions - I'm sorry, but your DLP will not be able to handle that. You're going to have a very blocky picture.
Wow, you know even less about DLP technology than you do about spelling and grammar.
Old 10-12-04 | 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by C.H.U.D.
It cost about $40M to make. Not that much more.
Are you sure about that? I had read online and in a magazine (either Entertainment Weekly or Starlog) that the budget was closer to $70 million.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I was just curious.

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