Pirates of the Wallet: The Curse of the Double Dip
 

Okay, so we're less than a month away from the 3-Disc Collector's Set release of PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: THE CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL, featuring the 2-disc DVD release everyone and their dog already shelled out for less than a year ago, as well as a new third disc of exclusive goodies, so does anyone know yet if Buena Vista is offering a program for prior owners of the original 2-disc-only release to acquire the bonus disc without buying the same damn movie disc all over again?

On one hand, you're upset they're coming out with a new version. On the other, you want the new version. Have you considered selling your old version to finance the purchase of the new one?

No one knows anything at this point Filmmaker.

Sure, evitagen, I'll happily, contentedly, warm-and-fuzzily sell my current disc for which I paid $15 for about $3-$5 at some video store, then turn around and pay back $15-$20 to get the same thing back. Makes mountains of sense...

Filmmaker - are you really going to watch the other stuff on disc 3?

Check a review first and then decide if it's worth your cash.

As for a program to get the new disc - well, that's just silly and you've been around long enough to know that won't happen. Unless you were joking - were you?

I'll give you ten dollars.

Or you could try Half.com or eBay.com, but I think you're more interested in playing raped consumer than doing something about your problem.

If I could do the latter in such a way that would completely alleviate the damage caused by the former, then I'm game, but you have yet to offer a compelling example (offering $10 for a disc I paid $15 for and, at minimum, will have to pay $15 for again to get the 3-disc version puts me at a $20 loss so, you see, the consumer raping continues unabated).

Originally posted by DonnachaOne
Filmmaker - are you really going to watch the other stuff on disc 3?

Yes, I'm a fan (whore?) of special edition/behind-the-scenes material.

Check a review first and then decide if it's worth your cash.

A review would matter not; my psychology of DVD collecting is, if a title's worth owning, it's worth owning the biggest, baddest version of it available. You don't need to agree to respect the position.

As for a program to get the new disc - well, that's just silly and you've been around long enough to know that won't happen. Unless you were joking - were you?

It happened with the 4th bonus disc (found in the trilogy boxed set) for buyers of the JURASSIC PARK films if they already owned the first two films individually. How long you been at this DVD collecting thing, kid?

The going-rate at Half.com is $10. It'll stay around that price, I believe. The point is that you'll have to buy the new set anyway [which has everything from the first release], yet you're not going to sell the old one you have now because you want an amount that you cannot get?

I never said I wouldn't sell it--of course I will; the point is, I will take a massive loss for relatively little pay-off. You can argue that, this being the case, I should pass on buying the 3-disc version, but as I said above, I'm a sucker for bigger and better DVD marketing, so that won't ultimately be an option. As a Jim Carrey character once said, "what I am going to do is piss and moan like an impotent jerk, and then bend over and take it up the tailpipe!"

Oh, and yeah, I guess I didn't make it clear--I won' t be fully happy accepting $10 for a $15 disc, but if it was a serious offer on your part, it's better than what I'd get from any local video shops and less hassle than using Half.com, so I'll take you up on it.

the problem is that iam sure 100000% that they will release POTC AGAIN when the movies comes out 2006! i have the 2disc edition & iam not buyin this...cos i know i'll be excited when the movie comes out n 2006 & i'll buy the edition they will release then.

Check your math. You would only be getting raped for $5, not $20. The other $15 goes to buy the movie..

but I see your point... :)

Well, you could either do that or you can keep your old DVD and pay out a whole $20 for the new one. Or you can just keep your old one and not buy the new one. It's not like you have no say in the matter. But as for them releasing the bonus disc seperately so you don't have to rebuy the whole movie....







AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! :lol: You're joking, right? ;)

I hate math. I tried refiguring and came out with this scenario:

Get the POTC 2-disc set for $15, sell it for $10 (loss of $5), purchase the same 2-disc set again for $15, using the $10 I got from selling the original (another $5 loss, and really probably more, because bestbuy.com has the title for $23), for a net loss of $10.

Then I tried it this way:

Original disc costs me $15, 3-disc version costs me $15 (actually $23, yes, but to keep the figures simple) for a total of $30; I get $10 for selling the first DVD, for a net cost of $20 (vs. the original $15 I paid).

First example, I end up $10 in the hole, second example, I end up $5 in the hole. This is why I had to cheat to pass College Algebra (on my third attempt at the course, no less)... :confused:

Any sarcasm directed my way at this point is well earned...

Originally posted by Joe Molotov:
But as for them releasing the bonus disc seperately so you don't have to rebuy the whole movie....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You're joking, right?

Joe, my speed reader friend, I repeat: It happened with the 4th bonus disc (found in the trilogy boxed set) for buyers of the JURASSIC PARK films if they already owned the first two films individually.

Okay, but with a three movie boxset, collectors would probably be more likely to say "Oh to hell with the bonus disc, I'm not rebuying all these movies again just to get that". But this is just one movie, and releases like this are usually aimed at collectors who probably already have the 2-Disc version or people that just plain missed the movie the first time. Releasing the one disc seperately would seem counter-productive to all the moneymaking they plan on doing with this. But hey, if they do decide to do it, then good for them. It wouldn't be something I'd expect to see though.

A fair counter argument, but the point stands that there is a precedent.

Oh, and on the math thing, I'm an idiot, but I got it on the way home from work--still, a $5 loss is about $5.01 too much, ya know?

"Kid"? Unwarranted condescension aside, I've collected DVDs since 1998, 1999 or so.

So, you've shown me one example - a Universal title, a studio known for holding back the extra stuff. "Total Axcess"... certain movies exclusive to other DVD box sets... that sort of thing. That fourth disc wasn't so much a bonus as it was a cheat.

Originally posted by DonnachaOne:
That fourth disc wasn't so much a bonus as it was a cheat.

Whereas this POTC bonus disc will represent the DVD equivalent of the Dead Sea Scrolls, I gather...?

you could always rent the new version.

<-----doesn't rent

well, then you have a dilemna my friend.

If I were you and I wanted it that badly, I would sell off my original version and then use that cash to purchase the new one.

Look at the $5 you lose on this one as a rental fee or more accurately a depreciation expense for A) Opening it, B) it being obsolete once the new one comes out.

Personally, I'm happy with my original version so no need to double dip for me.

You forgot to factor in the value of having the disc at your disposal for the last 10 months. I'm sure that it wasn't sitting on shelf unwatched the whole time.

Universal did offer the bonus disc to current owners, but the dozens and dozens of other double dips by the various studios didn't have such an offer. If you want the third disc, you'll have to buy the 3-disc set.

Those Best Buy bonus discs must really drive you nuts. :)

I have a solution to this whole problem. Trade your current 2-Disc POTC DVD for another DVD you want.

Arrrrrr.

Pirate Res says the current version is good enough for him.

http://www.mizzou.edu/~rdhk99/pirateres.jpg


Arrrrrr.

The prospect of some sort of offer is slim to none. It sounds like you're going to be unhappy no matter what you do. You want the 'best' version of a movie but complain about spending 5 more bucks for it, which is pretty silly.

:thumbsup:

Maybe the third disc will be as lame as the Spidey Deluxe was, in which case even a completist (such as myself) could probably resist. I would wait for the reviews.

If a release already has plenty of bonus features, just adding more bonus features isn't enough to constitute a double-dip.

Not unless a new feature had Kiera Knightly naked or something. :D

If you sell the 2 disc set now then wait a couple of months AFTER the 3 disc set is out - your bound to find it $5 off somewhere.

Problem solved.

YEAH!... What he said.

So, your problem is that you originally paid $15 for a 2-disc set, and now you'll be paying $20 net for a 3-disc set. Your original purchase averaged <i>$7.50 per disc</i>, and you'll end up with a 3-disc set averaging <i>$6.67 per disc</i>.

You should send them a thank-you note for helping to reduce the average cost per disc in your collection. -wink-

What? You're not making sesne. Is it that YOU see this new disc as the Dead Sea Scrolls, or something? I don't get it.

Just trade the present DVD you have. Buy the 3-disc set. That simple.

Seems like you aren't familiar with the concept of depreciation. If you paid $30,000 for a new car and then decided to sell it a year later, would you seriously expect to receive $30,000 for it? Unless you have never opened & viewed your POTC dvd, then it is completely unrealistic to expect someone to offer you the $15 original price for a previously viewed dvd. Another way to look at it: if you've watched your POTC dvd twice since owning it, then the $5 "loss" equates to paying $2.50 each time to view it. Much cheaper than renting it from BBV or paying to see it at the movie theater.

I could be wrong, but I don't think Buena Vista is forcing anybody to buy the new edition.

....just to make this as clear as mud:
It's going to cost you $20 either way.

Look at it this way: start with $30 in your pocket, all transactions will be in cash.

First example, you buy POTC-2disc for $15. You now have $15 in your pocket. You turn around and sell it later for $10, now giving you $25 in your pocket. You buy POTC-3disc for $15. You have $10 left in your pocket, and your "net loss" is $20.

Second example, you buy POTC-2disc for $15, leaving $15 in your pocket. You buy POTC-3disc for $15, leaving you with no cash. You sell POTC-2disc for $10, which is what you end up with in your pocket, the same as the first example, and your "net loss" is $20.

You freely mix and match the terms "net cost", "net loss" and "in the hole" in your examples, leading to numerous errors and inconsistencies.

Yeah, I passed algebra, and calculus IV. :)

Good lord, just buy the damn 3-disc set when it comes out and be happy already.

Consider the $15 you shelled out for the original disc a yearlong rental for $1.25/month, and at the end of the lease period they let you keep the movie.

This is a clear-cut case of censorship at its worst.

Agreed. This is Disney homophobia at its most insidious. :mad: