Pirates of the Wallet: The Curse of the Double Dip
10-08-04, 02:34 AM
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The prospect of some sort of offer is slim to none. It sounds like you're going to be unhappy no matter what you do. You want the 'best' version of a movie but complain about spending 5 more bucks for it, which is pretty silly.
10-08-04, 03:14 AM
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Maybe the third disc will be as lame as the Spidey Deluxe was, in which case even a completist (such as myself) could probably resist. I would wait for the reviews.
10-08-04, 06:39 AM
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If a release already has plenty of bonus features, just adding more bonus features isn't enough to constitute a double-dip.
Not unless a new feature had Kiera Knightly naked or something.
Not unless a new feature had Kiera Knightly naked or something.
10-08-04, 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by reservoirdog
Arrrrrr.
Pirate Res says the current version is good enough for him.
Arrrrrr.
Arrrrrr.
Pirate Res says the current version is good enough for him.
Arrrrrr.
10-08-04, 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by Filmmaker
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Then I tried it this way:
Original disc costs me $15, 3-disc version costs me $15 (actually $23, yes, but to keep the figures simple) for a total of $30; I get $10 for selling the first DVD, for a net cost of $20 (vs. the original $15 I paid).
Any sarcasm directed my way at this point is well earned...
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Then I tried it this way:
Original disc costs me $15, 3-disc version costs me $15 (actually $23, yes, but to keep the figures simple) for a total of $30; I get $10 for selling the first DVD, for a net cost of $20 (vs. the original $15 I paid).
Any sarcasm directed my way at this point is well earned...
So, your problem is that you originally paid $15 for a 2-disc set, and now you'll be paying $20 net for a 3-disc set. Your original purchase averaged $7.50 per disc, and you'll end up with a 3-disc set averaging $6.67 per disc.
You should send them a thank-you note for helping to reduce the average cost per disc in your collection.
10-08-04, 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by Filmmaker
Whereas this POTC bonus disc will represent the DVD equivalent of the Dead Sea Scrolls, I gather...?
Whereas this POTC bonus disc will represent the DVD equivalent of the Dead Sea Scrolls, I gather...?
Just trade the present DVD you have. Buy the 3-disc set. That simple.
10-08-04, 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by Filmmaker
A fair counter argument, but the point stands that there is a precedent.
Oh, and on the math thing, I'm an idiot, but I got it on the way home from work--still, a $5 loss is about $5.01 too much, ya know?
A fair counter argument, but the point stands that there is a precedent.
Oh, and on the math thing, I'm an idiot, but I got it on the way home from work--still, a $5 loss is about $5.01 too much, ya know?
Seems like you aren't familiar with the concept of depreciation. If you paid $30,000 for a new car and then decided to sell it a year later, would you seriously expect to receive $30,000 for it? Unless you have never opened & viewed your POTC dvd, then it is completely unrealistic to expect someone to offer you the $15 original price for a previously viewed dvd. Another way to look at it: if you've watched your POTC dvd twice since owning it, then the $5 "loss" equates to paying $2.50 each time to view it. Much cheaper than renting it from BBV or paying to see it at the movie theater.
10-08-04, 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by Filmmaker
I hate math. I tried refiguring and came out with this scenario:
Get the POTC 2-disc set for $15, sell it for $10 (loss of $5), purchase the same 2-disc set again for $15, using the $10 I got from selling the original (another $5 loss, and really probably more, because bestbuy.com has the title for $23), for a net loss of $10.
Then I tried it this way:
Original disc costs me $15, 3-disc version costs me $15 (actually $23, yes, but to keep the figures simple) for a total of $30; I get $10 for selling the first DVD, for a net cost of $20 (vs. the original $15 I paid).
First example, I end up $10 in the hole, second example, I end up $5 in the hole. This is why I had to cheat to pass College Algebra (on my third attempt at the course, no less)...
Any sarcasm directed my way at this point is well earned...
I hate math. I tried refiguring and came out with this scenario:
Get the POTC 2-disc set for $15, sell it for $10 (loss of $5), purchase the same 2-disc set again for $15, using the $10 I got from selling the original (another $5 loss, and really probably more, because bestbuy.com has the title for $23), for a net loss of $10.
Then I tried it this way:
Original disc costs me $15, 3-disc version costs me $15 (actually $23, yes, but to keep the figures simple) for a total of $30; I get $10 for selling the first DVD, for a net cost of $20 (vs. the original $15 I paid).
First example, I end up $10 in the hole, second example, I end up $5 in the hole. This is why I had to cheat to pass College Algebra (on my third attempt at the course, no less)...
Any sarcasm directed my way at this point is well earned...
It's going to cost you $20 either way.
Look at it this way: start with $30 in your pocket, all transactions will be in cash.
First example, you buy POTC-2disc for $15. You now have $15 in your pocket. You turn around and sell it later for $10, now giving you $25 in your pocket. You buy POTC-3disc for $15. You have $10 left in your pocket, and your "net loss" is $20.
Second example, you buy POTC-2disc for $15, leaving $15 in your pocket. You buy POTC-3disc for $15, leaving you with no cash. You sell POTC-2disc for $10, which is what you end up with in your pocket, the same as the first example, and your "net loss" is $20.
You freely mix and match the terms "net cost", "net loss" and "in the hole" in your examples, leading to numerous errors and inconsistencies.
Yeah, I passed algebra, and calculus IV.
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10-08-04, 10:12 AM
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Good lord, just buy the damn 3-disc set when it comes out and be happy already.
Consider the $15 you shelled out for the original disc a yearlong rental for $1.25/month, and at the end of the lease period they let you keep the movie.
Consider the $15 you shelled out for the original disc a yearlong rental for $1.25/month, and at the end of the lease period they let you keep the movie.
10-08-04, 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by Groucho
I could be wrong, but I don't think Buena Vista is forcing anybody to buy the new edition.
I could be wrong, but I don't think Buena Vista is forcing anybody to buy the new edition.
I think trading the 2 disc for another title would be the best solution.
10-08-04, 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by D-Ball:
I'm sure that it wasn't sitting on shelf unwatched the whole time.
He he, well actually it was...let's just say it's been a busy year. Hell, I haven't even had time to watch my STAR WARS Trilogy...
Those Best Buy bonus discs must really drive you nuts.
Actually, I love them (when I'm not financially hampered) because they're available right at the outset, not a year after I bought the feature DVD.
Originally posted by fumenstan:
You want the 'best' version of a movie but complain about spending 5 more bucks for it, which is pretty silly.
Yeah, complaining about studios double-dipping titles before the first release is even a year old--that's pretty unprecedented. Where do I get off?
Originally posted by DonnachaOne:
What? You're not making sense. Is it that YOU see this new disc as the Dead Sea Scrolls, or something? I don't get it.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for helping my attempts at performing simple math not look like the most intellectually challenged moment of this thread.
Originally posted by palooka:
then wait a couple of months AFTER the 3 disc set is out
A smart idea but...
<----doesn't wait (if he can afford it)
Originally posted by Snowmaker:
If a release already has plenty of bonus features, just adding more bonus features isn't enough to constitute a double-dip.
I respectfully disagree.
Originaly posted by marty888:
So, your problem is that you originally paid $15 for a 2-disc set, and now you'll be paying $20 net for a 3-disc set. Your original purchase averaged $7.50 per disc, and you'll end up with a 3-disc set averaging $6.67 per disc.
You should send them a thank-you note for helping to reduce the average cost per disc in your collection.
There's the one, single post to make me feel better about the whole deal. I take back all the mean things I've said before about you math people!
Originally posted by Moonraker:
if you've watched your POTC dvd twice since owning it
As mentioned above, I haven't (though I did take it out of it's plastic to make sure the discs were undamaged).
Originally posted by JJE-187:
I have a solution to this whole problem. Trade your current 2-Disc POTC DVD for another DVD you want.
Yep, that's exactly what I think I'm going to have to do to minimize my perception of loss.
originally posted by abbatazapa:
....just to make this as clear as mud:
It's going to cost you $20 either way.
Look at it this way: start with $30 in your pocket, all transactions will be in cash.
First example, you buy POTC-2disc for $15. You now have $15 in your pocket. You turn around and sell it later for $10, now giving you $25 in your pocket. You buy POTC-3disc for $15. You have $10 left in your pocket, and your "net loss" is $20.
Second example, you buy POTC-2disc for $15, leaving $15 in your pocket. You buy POTC-3disc for $15, leaving you with no cash. You sell POTC-2disc for $10, which is what you end up with in your pocket, the same as the first example, and your "net loss" is $20.
You freely mix and match the terms "net cost", "net loss" and "in the hole" in your examples, leading to numerous errors and inconsistencies.
Yeah, I passed algebra, and calculus IV.
I'm bored...can I go out and play now?
I'm sure that it wasn't sitting on shelf unwatched the whole time.
He he, well actually it was...let's just say it's been a busy year. Hell, I haven't even had time to watch my STAR WARS Trilogy...
Those Best Buy bonus discs must really drive you nuts.
Actually, I love them (when I'm not financially hampered) because they're available right at the outset, not a year after I bought the feature DVD.
Originally posted by fumenstan:
You want the 'best' version of a movie but complain about spending 5 more bucks for it, which is pretty silly.
Yeah, complaining about studios double-dipping titles before the first release is even a year old--that's pretty unprecedented. Where do I get off?
Originally posted by DonnachaOne:
What? You're not making sense. Is it that YOU see this new disc as the Dead Sea Scrolls, or something? I don't get it.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for helping my attempts at performing simple math not look like the most intellectually challenged moment of this thread.
Originally posted by palooka:
then wait a couple of months AFTER the 3 disc set is out
A smart idea but...
<----doesn't wait (if he can afford it)
Originally posted by Snowmaker:
If a release already has plenty of bonus features, just adding more bonus features isn't enough to constitute a double-dip.
I respectfully disagree.
Originaly posted by marty888:
So, your problem is that you originally paid $15 for a 2-disc set, and now you'll be paying $20 net for a 3-disc set. Your original purchase averaged $7.50 per disc, and you'll end up with a 3-disc set averaging $6.67 per disc.
You should send them a thank-you note for helping to reduce the average cost per disc in your collection.
There's the one, single post to make me feel better about the whole deal. I take back all the mean things I've said before about you math people!
Originally posted by Moonraker:
if you've watched your POTC dvd twice since owning it
As mentioned above, I haven't (though I did take it out of it's plastic to make sure the discs were undamaged).
Originally posted by JJE-187:
I have a solution to this whole problem. Trade your current 2-Disc POTC DVD for another DVD you want.
Yep, that's exactly what I think I'm going to have to do to minimize my perception of loss.
originally posted by abbatazapa:
....just to make this as clear as mud:
It's going to cost you $20 either way.
Look at it this way: start with $30 in your pocket, all transactions will be in cash.
First example, you buy POTC-2disc for $15. You now have $15 in your pocket. You turn around and sell it later for $10, now giving you $25 in your pocket. You buy POTC-3disc for $15. You have $10 left in your pocket, and your "net loss" is $20.
Second example, you buy POTC-2disc for $15, leaving $15 in your pocket. You buy POTC-3disc for $15, leaving you with no cash. You sell POTC-2disc for $10, which is what you end up with in your pocket, the same as the first example, and your "net loss" is $20.
You freely mix and match the terms "net cost", "net loss" and "in the hole" in your examples, leading to numerous errors and inconsistencies.
Yeah, I passed algebra, and calculus IV.
I'm bored...can I go out and play now?
10-08-04, 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by Filmmaker
Originally posted by D-Ball:
I'm sure that it wasn't sitting on shelf unwatched the whole time.
He he, well actually it was...let's just say it's been a busy year. Hell, I haven't even had time to watch my STAR WARS Trilogy.
Originally posted by D-Ball:
I'm sure that it wasn't sitting on shelf unwatched the whole time.
He he, well actually it was...let's just say it's been a busy year. Hell, I haven't even had time to watch my STAR WARS Trilogy.
10-08-04, 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by Dabaomb:
If you don't have time to watch it the first time, then what makes you think that you have time to watch the third disc?
Since I'm not a religious man, this is where I place my hope and faith...
If you don't have time to watch it the first time, then what makes you think that you have time to watch the third disc?
Since I'm not a religious man, this is where I place my hope and faith...
10-08-04, 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by Filmmaker
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Originally posted by fumenstan:
You want the 'best' version of a movie but complain about spending 5 more bucks for it, which is pretty silly.
Yeah, complaining about studios double-dipping titles before the first release is even a year old--that's pretty unprecedented. Where do I get off?
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Originally posted by fumenstan:
You want the 'best' version of a movie but complain about spending 5 more bucks for it, which is pretty silly.
Yeah, complaining about studios double-dipping titles before the first release is even a year old--that's pretty unprecedented. Where do I get off?
I respectfully conclude that THIS THREAD SUCKS.
P.S. Please don't "get off" wherever you decide to "go out and play"
10-08-04, 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by Filmmaker
If I could do the latter in such a way that would completely alleviate the damage caused by the former, then I'm game, but you have yet to offer a compelling example (offering $10 for a disc I paid $15 for and, at minimum, will have to pay $15 for again to get the 3-disc version puts me at a $20 loss so, you see, the consumer raping continues unabated).
If I could do the latter in such a way that would completely alleviate the damage caused by the former, then I'm game, but you have yet to offer a compelling example (offering $10 for a disc I paid $15 for and, at minimum, will have to pay $15 for again to get the 3-disc version puts me at a $20 loss so, you see, the consumer raping continues unabated).
not such a bad thing, as you basically rented the disc for $5 this whole time
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10-08-04, 04:46 PM
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Origianlly posted by fumenstan:
Give me a break, you already said yourself you're going to be unhappy unless you somehow get this disc for free.
And this reply follows naturally from my statement regarding the inherent frustration of studios double dipping in less than a year how?
Give me a break, you already said yourself you're going to be unhappy unless you somehow get this disc for free.
And this reply follows naturally from my statement regarding the inherent frustration of studios double dipping in less than a year how?
10-08-04, 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by Filmmaker
Originally posted by Snowmaker:
If a release already has plenty of bonus features, just adding more bonus features isn't enough to constitute a double-dip.
I respectfully disagree.
Originally posted by Snowmaker:
If a release already has plenty of bonus features, just adding more bonus features isn't enough to constitute a double-dip.
I respectfully disagree.