If Luke was in hiding....
10-01-04, 01:34 PM
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So to me it's obvious that Leia had to be 3 or 4 when Padme died.
Which means Padme survives Episode III and dies 3to4 years after the events of episode III, and Obi-Wan takes luke to the Lars after birth.
Which means Padme survives Episode III and dies 3to4 years after the events of episode III, and Obi-Wan takes luke to the Lars after birth.
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10-02-04, 08:55 AM
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I don't "know" Padme dies, and if you do, please use spoiler tags to conceal any info you have on ROTS. Some of us want the story to unravel before us in the theater, not on some internet message board.
If Padme dies or wether Ani knows about his children are MAJOR plot points in the film. Please be considerate and use spoiler tags where necessary as per the TOS agreement of this website.
If Padme dies or wether Ani knows about his children are MAJOR plot points in the film. Please be considerate and use spoiler tags where necessary as per the TOS agreement of this website.
10-02-04, 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by Eplicon
There will probably be a scene in Episode III where Anakin tells Obi-Wan that he's going to be a father. This would also tie-in with Anakin passing on the lightsaber to Obi-Wan and tells him to give it to his offspring.
There will probably be a scene in Episode III where Anakin tells Obi-Wan that he's going to be a father. This would also tie-in with Anakin passing on the lightsaber to Obi-Wan and tells him to give it to his offspring.
10-02-04, 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by whoster69
That one is easy. Lucas didn't decide to make Vader his father until after the first movie was released.
That one is easy. Lucas didn't decide to make Vader his father until after the first movie was released.
10-02-04, 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by whoster69
That one is easy. Lucas didn't decide to make Vader his father until after the first movie was released.
That one is easy. Lucas didn't decide to make Vader his father until after the first movie was released.
10-02-04, 05:03 PM
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Subtle clues? Like what?
I've always thought it's been extremely obvious that the Darth father thing was some "revelation" that came up during scripting/filming Ep. 5.
It's just far too clumsy with the way things are said.
I've always thought it's been extremely obvious that the Darth father thing was some "revelation" that came up during scripting/filming Ep. 5.
It's just far too clumsy with the way things are said.
10-02-04, 09:43 PM
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Vader's real identity was something that Lucas toyed around with back and forth before settling with what we know now. He even considered not revealing it until ROTJ. In early drafts of TESB, Vader & Anakin were two completely different people.
10-03-04, 01:13 PM
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The book "The Annotated Screenplays" says they brainstormed a scene where Obi Wan introduces Luke to the ghost of Anakin on Dagobah. Read the book. There was no plans towards any sequel (or prequel) other than "We hope to make a sequel". The movies were completely made up as they went along. It's in black and white. Now that's not to say they didn't have an incredible epiphany when they did come up with such ideas as Vader being his father, but he didn't have an overall plan for 6 (9-12) movies from the start. Knowing this, I find it silly to pick apart every line in the movies (first one, especially) and expect complete concordance. Even Tolkien had to go back and rewrite part of "The Hobbit" to allow LOTR to work.
10-03-04, 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by caligulathegod
The book "The Annotated Screenplays" says they brainstormed a scene where Obi Wan introduces Luke to the ghost of Anakin on Dagobah. Read the book. There was no plans towards any sequel (or prequel) other than "We hope to make a sequel". The movies were completely made up as they went along. It's in black and white. Now that's not to say they didn't have an incredible epiphany when they did come up with such ideas as Vader being his father, but he didn't have an overall plan for 6 (9-12) movies from the start. Knowing this, I find it silly to pick apart every line in the movies (first one, especially) and expect complete concordance. Even Tolkien had to go back and rewrite part of "The Hobbit" to allow LOTR to work.
The book "The Annotated Screenplays" says they brainstormed a scene where Obi Wan introduces Luke to the ghost of Anakin on Dagobah. Read the book. There was no plans towards any sequel (or prequel) other than "We hope to make a sequel". The movies were completely made up as they went along. It's in black and white. Now that's not to say they didn't have an incredible epiphany when they did come up with such ideas as Vader being his father, but he didn't have an overall plan for 6 (9-12) movies from the start. Knowing this, I find it silly to pick apart every line in the movies (first one, especially) and expect complete concordance. Even Tolkien had to go back and rewrite part of "The Hobbit" to allow LOTR to work.
"He's got too much of his father in him" could mean what? At one point, Lucas wanted Obi Wan to be Luke's father. Obi Wan was a crazy old man according to Uncle Owen, and that would be sufficient enough to say that was what he was afraid of. It was a vague enough statement that no matter what Lucas came up with, people would have gone back and heard that line, and gone, "OH, that's what Lucas meant!" I doubt if Obi Wan was Luke's father anybody hearing that line would have concluded that truly meant that Luke's dad should have been Darth Vader.
10-04-04, 10:24 AM
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I don't know if it's in the doc material or from a seperate interview that Hamill did, but when George told him that Leia was Luke's sister, Mark's reaction was:
"You made that up on the drive over here, didn't you?!"
"You made that up on the drive over here, didn't you?!"
