ANH glaring error
 

just got the star wars trilogy on dvd last night from borders.com. tonight i watched a new hope. there seem to be quite a few problems with the video. if you have the dvds, did you notice a glaring problem with the creature outside the door of the cantina? he's missing his lower half...

keith

He is standing behind a wall, which is why you can't see his lower half.

Is anyone even ENJOYING these movies or is everyone just trying to pick everything to death?

No no no. You're missing the fun of Star Wars. The point is to bitch about Lucas changing things and updated special effects, then to go back and complain that there's a small technical defect in the presentation.

Wait you mean you actually watch the movies for like the story and stuff? Bah!

On a more serious note, I think it's just a case where these are films that many will watch over and over, and since everyone is talking about them, it's fun in some ways to pick them apart. The magic of multiple threads...you can avoid the topics we don't like.

Yeah, but which polyphonic ringtone do you think Han Solo uses?

It doesn't matter because everyone knows he doesn't get service with Cingular in outer space. That's just common sense.

uhh... take a closer look...

Another glaring error I heard in the cantina scene (while continuing to ENJOY the movie :D) is that Han says something along the lines of "I made that route in less than 30 parsecs" referring to a unit of time. A parsec is a unit of distance.

Obviously, a "parsec" is something different in the Star Wars universe than it is in our universe. ;)

Yeah, that's a wall, dude. The CGI is a tad shaky, but it's behind a wall.

From the official Star Wars FAQ:

There was an amusing story about this in one of the recent Dark Horse comics. But, then again, George is selective about which non-cinematic stories are part of the cannon [even though Lucasfilm approves every single thing..].

well do you have the special edition on vhs? take a look at that... i don't think it's a wall...

keith

This thread is useless without a screencap.

http://img80.exs.cx/img80/9642/PDVD_23.jpg

It is clearly a wall. It's as plain as the nose on my face. There was always a dewback there. This scene is the same as it was before, the only difference is the dewback is now CG.

Edit: The wall may be new, I don't remember. But it's clearly a wall he's standing behind.

It's hard to enjoy ANH when the sound has been completely butchered.

In ANH when C3-PO, and R2-D2 crash on Tat. As they are walking away and you see the pod in the back, to the right of it there is a big blue splotch, that looks to be the same blue color of a blue screen, is that suposed to be there, as in being a parashute, if it is, there doesn't seem to be any texture to it at all.

which creature in that picture is supposedly missing its lower half?

He's talking about the dewback in the background, but it's obvious he standing behind a wall.

I was hoping they would erase the R5 droid error scene when uncle owen is buying the droids. After it has blown up while still next to luke, it appears in a shot next to R2 again when it clearly cannot be. Maybe the 30th anniversary version will get rid of it as well as fixed sound and lightsabers. ;)

Also, they forgot to color chewie's feet when they are swinging on the vine in ROTJ. Doh.

As you can see he was behind the wall in 1977 and remained there in the 1997/2004 version.

http://www.siteload.com//getimg.php?...comparison.jpg

no wonder i couldnt tell...its DEFINITELY behind a wall. what the hell was he talking about?!

I thought that also when I first watched ANH on DVD, but if you watch them get into the POD, you will see that the inside of the door hatch is indeed very blue. So, it is very blue in the bright sun light.

Back in 1977 my assumption was that the line was bluster by Han Solo.

But in this DVD set Lucas addresses the issue in the ANH commentary (1:03:20) by saying that navigating around obstacles in hyperspace is difficult and the Millennium Falcon's navicomputer is the best there is, hence Solo can get between two points in a shorter distance by means of more precise navigating, making it the "fastest" ship in the galaxy. This was the reason for bragging about making "the Kessel run in less than twelve parsecs", a unit of distance (3.26 light-years).

It was clear from what Lucas said that he was well aware of the criticism of his use of the term "parsec". But he threw a lot of jargon into Star Wars (for example the term "droids"), without explanation, on purpose. He was trying to present his created universe from the point of view that everyone knew how things worked and he could just get on with telling the story, without exposition of the technical details. In 1977 this was a major departure from the norm.

I know I'm enjoying them. It must suck to be fixated on minor things and not be able to enjoy these great dvd's.

agreed

i concede.

and yes, i am enjoying these movies on dvd very much.

thanks for the replys,
keith

I think the transfers for these new DVDs are just so crisp and clean that people are noticing finer details for the first time. I know that happened to me the first time I put in the Emprie Strikes Back DVD. I swore they added all these details, but when I put in the previous version, I just saw the details were that much more crisp and detailed.

I also think that people have seen these movies so many times over their life that by now, they are noticing finer details they never caught before. There is nothing wrong with that, it isn't they are not enjoying the movies, it's just that after you see the same images so many times, your eyes tend to look at other things in the background and around the main action. It's natural, and I don't understand people who DON'T notice these things after a multitude of viewings of these movies.

I cant believe they didnt fix the alien in the cantina who has one human hand and one alien hand.

While Lucas did address the parsecs=distance vs. time dilemma in the commentary, I personally don't think he did a very good job. He kinda fumbled his way through it and didn't make much sense. It was kind of like he was explaining a theory that he didn't really understand himself. Anyway, I've heard 3 possible explanations with increasing degrees of believability (the second one is somewhat similar to what Lucas said on the commentary):

1: The Kessel Run involves delivering smuggled goods to a number of cargo ships moving on a set course at a predetermined speed. The longer it takes you to complete your delivery, the further they will have traveled before you get to them. So the '12 parsecs' that han was referring to is the distance travelled by the cargo ships. If he had taken longer, the ships would have flown farther from their original destination before he was finished.

2: The Kessel Run involves navigating through (I think it was called the Great Maw) an area of space that is heavily clustered with black holes. Everyone knows that if you get too close to a black hole you will be sucked in and never heard from again. So in order to complete the Kessel run, pilots have to plot a long and twising course that veers far away from any of the black holes. Of course, the faster your ship travels, the closer you can get to a black hole without being sucked in, because you're whooshing by with such great velocity. Han's '12 parsecs' refers to his nearly straight-line course through the maze of black holes. I read somewhere that anything below 18 parsecs is something to be proud of. This is pretty similar to what Lucas said, but when I heard him tell it he didn't tell it very well.

3. (and this one needs the least explanation) Han was lying. He was talkin' tall to make a buck. Either he didn't know, or he was betting that THEY didn't know, WHAT a parsec was, but thought it sounded good and hoped they bought it (likely, LUCAS didn't know what a parsec was but thought it sounded good...and hoped they bought it...and they did. On VHS, THX, LD, SE, and DVD)

Or how about, who gives a flip. ;) This aint Star Trek, pardon my grammar. It was just a line of dialogue to convery the speed capabilities of the Falcon. It wasn't meant to be dissected in minute detail.


It's silly little things like this that Star Wars fans obssess over, that make me shake my head in disbelief.

here's a glaring error
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i see no problem here. Who is to say that the "kessel run" or whatever its called isn't an event in which you have a certain amount of time to travel as far as you can... Han is bragging that he made it almost 30 parsecs.

j

How fast can YOU do the Kessel run in tough guy?!?!

I had heard something similar. Since space/time distorts near black holes, by travelling quickly enough you can fly very close to the singularities, decreasing time and distance travelled.

It's probably mostly junk science anyway, but it seems as reasonable as any other explanation.

birrman54

*Janice mode on* O-H M-Y G-O-D *Janice mode off*

C´mon..I know its Star Wars, but jeez...its "just" a movie...Its not science ! Its science FICTION...as in its not real...

Dont get me wrong...Im a big Star Wars fan too, and I hate that Greedo shoots first, and I would rather have the originals (thank God for Laserdisc), but really...do we have to pick everything apart and ruin the fun (or in this case, the fun thats LEFT) of movies...