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dan31655 09-20-04 01:31 PM

may have found difference in Re-Animator
 
the new millinenium edition says theatrical version, isn't the suppose older 2-disc uncut?

TylerDurden_73 09-20-04 01:51 PM

the 2-disc is not rated and 86 minutes long. How long is this theatrical cut?

dan31655 09-20-04 01:55 PM

there both 86 mins long, but one says threatical cut and the other says nothing. So this may not be the uncut version


the new version

Region 1
Keep Case
2-Disc Set
Disc One:
Theatrical Version
Widescreen - 1.85
Dual Layer
Audio:
DTS 5.1 Digital Surround - English
Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround - English
Original Mono Mix 2.0 - English
Isolated 5.1 Dolby Digital Music Score
THX-Optimizer
Commentary - 1. Stuart Gordon - Director
2. Brian Yuzna - Producer
3. Jeffrey Combs - Actor
4. Robert Sampson - Actor
5. Barbara Crampton - Actress
6. Bruce Abbott - Actor
Interactive Features:
Interactive Menus
Scene Access
Disc Two:
Full Frame - 1.33
Dual Layer
Additional Release Material:
Theatrical Trailer
New Video Interviews - 1. Stuart Gordon - Director
2. Brian Yuzna
3. Dennis Paoli - Writer
4. Richard Band - Composer
5. Tony Timpone - Fangoria Editor
Music Discussion - 1. Richard Band - Composer
16 Extended Scenes
Deleted Scene
5 TV Spots
Behind The Scenes Footage
Interactive Features:
Multi-Angle Storyboards
Biographies
Filmographies
Text/Photo Gallery:
Photo Gallery




older 2 disc


Region 1
Keep Case
Letterboxed - 1.85
DISC ONE:
Dual Layer
Audio:
Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround - English
Dolby Digital DTS 5.1 Surround - English
Isolated 2.0 Stereo Music Score
Original Mono Soundtrack
THX Approved
Additional Release Material:
Audio Commentary - 1. Stuart Gordon - Director
2. Brian Yuzna - Producer
3. Jeffrey Combs - Actor
4. Robert Sampson - Actor
5. Barbara Crampton - Actor
6. Bruce Abbott - Actor
Interactive Features:
24 Chapters with Motion Images

DISC TWO:
Dual Layer
Additional Release Material:
Music Discussion with Composer Richard Band
New Video Interviews - 1. Stuart Gordon - Director
2. Brian Yuzna - Producer
3. Dennis Paoli - Writer
4. Richard Band - Composer
5. Tony Timpone - Fangoria Editor
16 Extended Scenes
Deleted Scene
Trailers - 1. Theatrical Trailer
2. 5 TV Spots
Interactive Features:
Animated Motion Menus
Text/Photo Galleries:
Multi-Angle Story Boards
Behind the Scenes Photo Gallery
Biographies - 1. Cast
2. Filmmakers
Filmographies - 1. Cast
2. Filmmakers

ThatGuamGuy 09-20-04 03:24 PM

That wouldn't make sense; 'Re-Animator' was released unrated in theaters.

Also, it would make no sense if disc one had the R-rated cut, but disc two had all the extended scenes from the R-rated cut.


How long is this theatrical cut?
87 or 88 minutes. It's a bit longer than the unrated.

dan31655 09-20-04 05:24 PM

well i wasn't sure and didn't feel like taking the chance. Also it would be pretty dumb for a 6 dollar difference between rated and unrated.

djtoell 09-20-04 09:04 PM

The R-rated cut was created specifically for video and received that rating a year after it was released, so the theatrical version is uncut.

DJ

Julie Walker 09-21-04 12:40 AM

True,the theatrical version IS unrated and uncut:D


As for the R rated version. I found a mint sealed copy on ebay a month ago and decided to get it for the hell of it. Interesting but ultimately forgettable version of the film. The pace is off,the filler scenes slow everything down,dark humor is lost,it's pretty boring actually. A couple of the deleted scenes were good and could work in the film,but the most of the 20 minutes was filler. Oh and the finale in the morgue is over in about 2 minutes in the R version!..and all the other gore is missing as well.

Pretty much feels like watching a tv version where all the pizaazz,style and energy is nonexistent.


So ultimately,the only worthy version is the original unated theatrical version :D

ThatGuamGuy 09-21-04 09:50 AM


Originally posted by Julie Walker
As for the R rated version. I found a mint sealed copy on ebay a month ago and decided to get it for the hell of it.
Out of curiosity, was it a bootleg? I didn't think they'd released the R-rated version.


Interesting but ultimately forgettable version of the film. The pace is off,the filler scenes slow everything down,dark humor is lost,it's pretty boring actually.
It has a soft spot in my heart because I saw it before I saw the unrated version. The next night, we went and found the unrated version ... at the point when he stabs Hill's head with the letter holder, to prop it up, we said "This was worth it."

But I really like the hypnosis subplot. The scenes are a bit long, but a lot of stuff makes more sense with Hill having that bizarre mind power.

Lastdaysofrain 09-21-04 10:39 AM

They did release they R-Rated version.

I have both on VHS. All the scenes from the R rated version are available as suppliments on the DVDs though. Weird/stupid sub plot about Dr. Hill being able to hypnotize people.

Richard Malloy 09-21-04 10:58 AM

But the upshot is that the new version of the "ME" is the same unrated theatrical cut as the old version (or pre-price reduction version) of the "ME"?

ThatGuamGuy 09-21-04 11:11 AM


Originally posted by Lastdaysofrain
They did release they R-Rated version.
Silly me, I should've realized she probably didn't mean DVD; I knew it was on VHS, I didn't think it was on DVD.


Weird/stupid sub plot about Dr. Hill being able to hypnotize people.
It would be more stupid if the movie hadn't been shot with that subplot in mind and awkwardly cut it out (the scene where he's attempting to hypnotize Meg, until the dead-father interrupts, works much better with the R-rated footage; in the unrated version, it makes Hill seem like a creepy dork, in the R-rated, it's a menacing scene). I'm not saying you need it, of course, just that it leaves weird gaps with the whole subplot excised.

Julie Walker 09-21-04 12:22 PM

No my VHS copy of the R rated version was legit. Unopened,Standard Vestron logos on the case and everything.

I do think the all black box looks more attractive than the blue unrated box though;) Oh and just for reference. The R rated version does not include the trailer for Lifeforce after the film like the unrated VHS.

Anyway maybe 5 minutes of the added footage could have been used in the unrated version. The bit with Herbert shooting up on his serum helped explain alittle bit of how they got away with the previous morgue scene with the Dean. Mentions they convinced the cops he went insane and lost his mind.

But the majority of the added footage seemed drawn out and unpolished. Like viewing a rough cut of the film. Some fine tuning with the editing,cutting out the slack and leaving the more important bits(dialogue) of the scenes intact could have helped the film and still flow together well.

ThatGuamGuy 09-21-04 02:08 PM


Originally posted by Julie Walker
The bit with Herbert shooting up on his serum helped explain alittle bit of how they got away with the previous morgue scene with the Dean. Mentions they convinced the cops he went insane and lost his mind.
I forgot about that scene, I always liked it; I think it's cool (though it doesn't make sense) that West uses his serum so he doesn't need to sleep.



But the majority of the added footage seemed drawn out and unpolished. Like viewing a rough cut of the film. Some fine tuning with the editing,cutting out the slack and leaving the more important bits(dialogue) of the scenes intact could have helped the film and still flow together well.

Yeah, I agree with this; I think they left it long because they really were just using it for padding; they had a movie which was under 80 minutes long, so they needed to get it back to roughly it's original length (it wound up a few minutes longer, actually).

I remember, specifically, the dinner scene, where Hill hypnotizes Halsey, is *way* too long, but sets up Halsey being irrationally angry at Cain and West much better. I also think it just makes Hill seem more dangerous. But, yeah, it would've been really cool if they'd tried to make that stuff as tight as the rest of the movie.

DRG 09-21-04 02:25 PM

Okay, are there two Milennium Editions? I know there was an old Elite version out there, and the 2 disc Milennium I have... is there *another* Milennium Edition (i.e. a third distinct DVD release of the movie) or am I just reading this all wrong?

Julie Walker 09-21-04 02:36 PM

DRG it appears to just be a price drop of the original M.E. release. No differences expect in pricing.

cverneau 09-22-04 06:34 AM

Some sites are listing this as: Widescreen 1.85:1 Color (Anamorphic).
Others are listing it as: Letterboxed - 1.85:1

Is this newer version (whether it's a price drop or a re-issue) Anamorphic Widescreen???

ThatGuamGuy 09-22-04 09:40 AM


Originally posted by cverneau
Is this newer version (whether it's a price drop or a re-issue) Anamorphic Widescreen???
It probably is, since the initial release of the ME was.

Richard Malloy 09-22-04 09:55 AM

I hate to keep bringing this back... but we don't yet know for sure what's up with this release? Probably just a price drop, but still unconfirmed?


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