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nickmondo1 09-03-04 02:38 PM

New godfather set?
 
When is this coming out with the new sound and stuff. Sorry if this was posted I looked and couldnt find it. I just am anticipating this release and hope its before xmas.

MJG87 09-03-04 02:40 PM

I haven't heard a word about this at all...but the current set is fine enough for me, the Next Godfather series I'll purchase will be on High Definition

Julie Walker 09-03-04 02:42 PM

I think they are just releasing the current dvds individually now. That is all and a shame. I would LOVE for the original mono mixes for part 1(& 2) to be included on a rerelease.

Johnny Zhivago 09-03-04 02:56 PM

Sorry man, you'll just have to keep anticipating... This is not in the works. It had 1) a price drop and will be having 2) individual releases of Parts II and III, just like the individual release of the original. No new transfers, same discs as currently available.

Martin Blythe was the Paramount rep who posted here about Lowry Digital doing a clean up on The Godfather. He later stated that he was misinformed and that there would be no remaster of The Godfather.

But it needs one.

Mike Lowrey 09-03-04 03:46 PM


Originally posted by Johnny Zhivago
Sorry man, you'll just have to keep anticipating... This is not in the works. It had 1) a price drop and will be having 2) individual releases of Parts II and III, just like the individual release of the original. No new transfers, same discs as currently available.

Martin Blythe was the Paramount rep who posted here about Lowry Digital doing a clean up on The Godfather. He later stated that he was misinformed and that there would be no remaster of The Godfather.

But it needs one.

Funny you mention that because on Amazon.com in one of the Listomanias, someone's got listed the movies remastered by Lowry Digital, and the Godfather set is listed.

I recently bought the original Godfather for less than $10 and the transfer looks fairly good, but one quick scene near the beginning is dark and extremely grainy, something akin to a really bad VHS transfer.

DVD Josh 09-03-04 04:10 PM

Remember, the print itself is in horrific shape. There is some doubt whether a proper restoration could even be made at all.

natevines 09-03-04 04:51 PM

Really?
That sucks. I always felt that it didn't look as well as it should, especially being a film often regarded as one of the greatest ever.

Josh Z 09-03-04 07:21 PM

Film stocks in usage in the 70s have proven to be highly volatile, and degrade at a much faster rate than those before or since. The original film negative for The Godfather is reportedly in pretty lousy shape.

That said, Lowry could probably still make a pretty good DVD out of it, because their digital clean-up work is done entirely in the video realm, not on film.

wolverine1028 09-04-04 12:10 AM

Don't give the studios excuses to squeeze more money out of us. :)

Knowing the marketing guys, they are probably going come out with a couple more releases.

Willh51 09-04-04 12:19 AM

Funny thing is, I think Godfather looks far better than Part III's transfer. II is great, IMO and I isn't bad for its age, III is disappointing given its relitively new age.

Frank S 09-04-04 02:38 AM


Originally posted by Willh51
Funny thing is, I think Godfather looks far better than Part III's transfer. II is great, IMO and I isn't bad for its age, III is disappointing given its relitively new age.
That's what I have been arguing since the boxset came out initially! People keep using this excuse that the original elements are bad but they never seem to be able to explain why the third film was as bad or worse then the first two! I was VERY pissed when I saw the quality of the films and it is NOT a problem with bad original elements as there have been some films that have had horrible original elements that looked outstanding when restored. This boxset was simply a matter of a studio to cheap and lazy to do an extensive restoration of some of the most classic films ever made! I also am ETREMELY disappointed with Coppala for OK'ing the release of these very sub-par DVD's!

wm lopez 09-04-04 11:06 PM

The truth has to be like this.
In every job there are people who do half-assed jobs, so when it came time to doing THE GODFATHER movies on dvd they must have handed the job to some lazy sh#t.

phr33k 09-04-04 11:11 PM

my godfather set is good enough my only complaint is the package. i hate those kind of packages.. i rathe have a digipack but than again it might look cheesy with the godfather movies lol

Masamune 09-05-04 10:37 AM

Only thing I'd ever get is rebuy a re-released PART 3 with that damn brightness thing fixed on it. What a joke.

dx23 02-27-06 04:45 PM

Another useless re-release; in order to promote the new Godfather videogame, Paramount is re-releasing the Godfather Collection with an exclusive disc, according to davisdvd.com: More info about this useless double dip here:

http://www.davisdvd.com/news/news.html

Cameron 02-27-06 04:55 PM

what is the MSRP? Is the box the same, with a disc added in, or will we finally see some keep cases

Egon's Ghost 02-27-06 05:54 PM

I'm glad this thread's been bumped, as I had been wondering about the supposed cleanup of the first Godfather, as written in the New York Times a few years ago. Pity.

Now I know why Martin Scorsese was so adamant about improving color filmstocks 25 years ago.

GuruTwo 02-27-06 06:08 PM

Film restorationist Robert A. Harris has said that the film looks fine for it's age and that restoring it would be unnecessary, and that's on top of the fact that the film transfer was produced by American Zoetrope, Francis Ford Coppola's own company. The film is 34 years old, it's never going to look like it was shot on Hi-Def video, nor should it. If you want a film that will show off the picture quality of your huge 16x9 television you should choose the latest summer blockbuster, not "The Godfather".

dvd_luver 02-27-06 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Cameron
what is the MSRP? Is the box the same, with a disc added in, or will we finally see some keep cases

I don't know, but I don't really care that much. I would assume they will ditch the paper cases, and make them either slim or keep cases. I have the original Godfather box set, it's a very nice set, and I am not going to double dip because of some stupid bonus disc. Paramount is really going for the $green$ here. Shame.

GuruTwo 02-27-06 06:20 PM

I personally wouldn't expect anything but the exact same box set with this bonus disc in a paper sleeve shrinkwrapped to it. They could change the packaging to keepcases or slimcases but I don't think that's too likely. As for this additional bonus content, it doesn't bother me for many reasons:

#1: It's all game-related, there's no additional content that deals with the films

#2: I've had my box set for nearly four and a half years. Even if there *was* substantial new material I've got my money's worth in that time.

#3: The material is promotional, meaning that there's a reasonable chance that Paramount and/or EA Games would send you the disc if you ask them for it.

MEJHarrison 02-27-06 06:25 PM

That news story makes it sound like the only new material will be information about the video game. I didn't see any new movie related bonus material there. That makes it twice as easy to not double dip on.

Eric D. 02-27-06 06:26 PM

I could care less about game-related content. Paramount is not even trying to get my money, for if thery were the bonus disc would have to do with the films themselves.

gryffinmaster 02-27-06 06:40 PM

Sounds like the new Underworld Unrated Extended SE that came out with the U:Evolution bonus disc. Those discs ARE great for frisbee and skipping on water, though. :)

Kicker_of_Elves 02-27-06 08:02 PM

Is the packaging gonna be different?

rbbrbndsmlfnny 02-27-06 10:35 PM

i'm not buying it until i see it on HD-DVD or BLU-RAY, and until i know the winner of the two.

The Bus 02-28-06 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by rbbrbndsmlfnny
i'm not buying it until i see it on HD-DVD or BLU-RAY, and until i know the winner of the two.

You never got it five years ago? :hscratch:

Qui Gon Jim 02-28-06 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by GuruTwo
The film is 34 years old, it's never going to look like it was shot on Hi-Def video, nor should it. If you want a film that will show off the picture quality of your huge 16x9 television you should choose the latest summer blockbuster, not "The Godfather".

BZZZZZT! Wrong.

I would hope that these films wouldn't look like they were shot on HD video; they should look tons better. Film, even 35 year old film, contains much more picture information than the highest of high definition transfers.

I don't think asking if the transfers will be improved is an out of line question. There have always been questions about the quality of the transfers of these discs ever since the set first came out.

joliom 02-28-06 07:18 PM

If they change the packaging, it's more likely to be a digipak then a bunch of thinpaks. I'm just fine with my original set housed in a nice 5-disc keepcase with a custom cover, thank you very much. If they want my money, they're gonna have to come up with something more substantial then a video game fluff piece.

fujishig 03-21-06 10:55 AM

Set comes out this week, I think (coinciding with the release of the game). I've seen the pictures in the ads, but can anyone confirm the packaging? Also, I never picked up the original release... worth getting now (for ~40 bucks) or should I just wait for HD/Bluray?

wm lopez 03-21-06 12:33 PM

There are many 70's,60's,50's movies that look great on dvd.
I can't believe how with all these old movies looking great on dvd like NORTH BY NORTHWEST there are people here who defend THE GODFATHER movies on dvd like this as good as they can look.

Josh Z 03-21-06 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by wm lopez
There are many 70's,60's,50's movies that look great on dvd.
I can't believe how with all these old movies looking great on dvd like NORTH BY NORTHWEST there are people here who defend THE GODFATHER movies on dvd like this as good as they can look.

Film stocks in common use during the 1970s were discovered to deteriorate at a much faster rate than those from previous or later decades. That's why movies from the 40s or 50s can sometimes look so much better than those from the 70s.

darkside 03-21-06 02:11 PM

Considering how rough the current transfers of The Godfather look I really can't imagine this one showing off the quality of the HD-DVD process. Maybe they can do a restoration of it before doing a new HD transfer though.

cirving 03-21-06 02:12 PM

I'm very confused... is there a new version of the Godfather trilogy coming out on DVD? I never picked up the original set and I always meant to. Should be holding out for something, or if there is a re-designed version of the set coming out, where can I see that and take advantage of the pre-order price? I'm not seeing anything listed on Amazon.ca or FutureShop.ca

exm 03-21-06 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by cirving
I'm very confused... is there a new version of the Godfather trilogy coming out on DVD? I never picked up the original set and I always meant to. Should be holding out for something, or if there is a re-designed version of the set coming out, where can I see that and take advantage of the pre-order price? I'm not seeing anything listed on Amazon.ca or FutureShop.ca

See above...
1) a price drop and will be having 2) individual releases of Parts II and III, just like the individual release of the original. No new transfers, same discs as currently available.

joliom 03-21-06 04:13 PM

They should release The Godfather Saga (the version with Pts. 1 & 2 edited together chronologically). Now that, I'd buy.

Al_Tahoe 03-21-06 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by joliom
They should release The Godfather Saga (the version with Pts. 1 & 2 edited together chronologically). Now that, I'd buy.

:thumbsup: My VHS of The Godfather Saga is definitely in need of a replacement.

cirving 03-21-06 06:36 PM

I don't see any information regarding a price drop anywhere. What date is it dropping? Also, I thought Godfather 2 & 3 have been sold independently for ages now. That's why I kept getting confused. I figured this was a very old thread, only re-surfacing now because of the video game.

GoldenJCJ 03-21-06 08:29 PM

I was at Best Buy today and saw the "new" set. It is the exact same set with a promo DVD about the new video game. Same exact supplements, same exact case, just the promo in a paper sleeve inside the shrink wrap. Price was $51.99, not sure if that was a pice drop or not, though I think I paid around the same price about a year ago.



As far as the Godfather Saga, I've never seen it but I think The Godfather Pt.2 is one of the best edited films ever. If the Saga shows events chronologically wouldn't that be ruined?

However, that being said, if the Godfather Saga were ever to be released I'd check it out anyway.

MartinBlank 03-21-06 09:57 PM

The set has been selling for about $40 at Costco for close to a year.

edit: Part III is/was an abortion. :D

GuruTwo 03-21-06 09:59 PM

The "Young Vito" stuff was never intended to be seen first. Those sequences appear towards the end of Mario Puzo's original novel.


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