darkside

You're kidding me right. Christianity is a multibillion dollar industry. Even if you want to exclude legitimate churches flip around the cable dial at all the Evangelist programming and drive around and check out the Christian Book stores everywhere. Its not a forgotten market at all.

My own non religious kid even watches those damn Jesus vegetable DVDs.

I've got no problem with Mel making money with the Passion, but Jesus is not an untapped financial resource by any means. At least Mel did his movie out of his real passion for his Catholic beliefs. That guy on cable talking in tongues is just an asshole.

Jackskeleton

Back when I used to work on the local Public Access channels we would get 90% religious programs taped in the studio. I shit you not. I mean it is free to produce and record your own show. All you had to do was sign some papers, make an appointment to come down to the set and tape for your hour and schedule your program to air on whatever time you want and the only people who did it were the religious folk.

It's really a big market to get to but it does have it's stinkers. Those tele-evanglist and a few others to speak of.

baracine

Grubert

Nah. The Passion 2: Jesus Christ Reloaded.

kayak99

I'm predicting this one will sink in price faster than most. Then I'll consider buying.

sracer

There isn't much replay value in "The Passion of the Christ", IMO. It only evokes emotion because of the barbaric torture being exhibited. It shows HOW Jesus died... but not really WHY.

Unfortunately, this very graphic, very detailed account of His torture and crucifixion will jade viewers toward films that focus on His life and ministry... like "King of Kings" and "Jesus of Nazereth"...and "Life of Brian".

(yeah, yeah, I know... people will say that films like that are unrealistic... depicting Jesus as being fair skinned, blonde haired, and blue eyed.)

Dabaomb

sale

Artman

I'd agree with that.

As if the sales figures couldn't have originally been placed in one of the existing Passion threads.

Lockdown mods?

baracine

This film is a crass and callous manipulation of people's religious beliefs in order to skewer the Jews and fill the world with even more hatred. That - even more than its graphic violence, which is a sign of mental imbalance and therefore objectionable in itself - makes this film an atrocity, in my opinion.

And the fact that an atrocity like the Beslan (Russian) School hostage massacre is committed "in the name of God" doesn't make it any less of an atrocity. Not by a long shot.

Brent L

I believe he is speaking of the film industry, not other aspects of culture. It's pretty rare for a straight up Christian film to hit the mainstream.

I obviously look for that to change a bit now.

Green Jello

What about this are you people not understanding?

Jackskeleton

second page seems to be lacking much political talk. It was targeted towards the seperation of church and state which hasn't been talked about anymore.

We are now talking about how the film industry is open or opposed to religious films. They don't want to touch an area that is so edgy. That is why everyone passed it up on the first place. I don't want to refer back to that old saying that "The Jews run hollywood". but you get the meaning behind it even though it isn't as true as the extreme that it sounds. But the matter is no one really wants to take the risk and I dont blame them.

zombiezilla

Jesus 2 : The Revenge

Jesus3 - 3D

Jesus 4 : Jesus Takes Manhattan

Jesus 5 : Dead By Dawn

Jesus 6 : The Darwinian Candidate



LOL

Jackskeleton

What about Jesus X ?

Jesus Vs Godzilla.

zombiezilla

Night of the Living Jebus

Jackskeleton

Ok, now now. The thread is getting derailed more so then even I can take.. and I can do my fair share of thread derailing..

So getting back to the point of this. Sales for this film are of course going to be huge and much like the film, it will peak during the religious seasons. I don't find to much replay value in it but then again I don't know how many times I'm going to watch schindlers list to many times but I do own it.

Jason

That's because the Left Behind movies were made by Kirk Cameron, the guy who thought that Growing Pains was "too blue".

I haven't read them, but from what I've heard, the Left Behind books are fairly interesting and well written. Let a creative team that knows what it's doing have a crack at them, and it could be a very profitable, popular franchise.

aspikes

Here is my opinion to some of the things written in this forum after my two cents were put in, I know this is not the right forum for them. But since others have had there say here is my two cents, again. Apology to the starter of the thread. I know this is off subject.

Julie Walker your ability to print fuck so many times does not impress me or anyone else I bet. If you are so concerned with children why don't you volunteer your time at a local homeless shelter and quit worrying about parents who let their children watch this movie. It's their right, not yours to raise their children anyway they want so long as they don't break any laws or hurt them or other people. Live and let live. I not trying to raise anybody's children and I respect everyone's right to raise their children as they see fit. In a Christian home or not. Btw Julie its aspikes not asspikes, although its very clever attacking others in this forum or name calling is not the norm however I am not offended. I almost forgot. Just because children want, does not mean they are ready or can handle the content. I could give example after example but will save every ones time. Your rational in your 4th paragraph is not logical and is absurd (to me) at best, but whatever.

Jackskeleton quote"This is my issue with the film. I don't want to hear Propaganda." Great, do not buy this dvd or watch it. Problem solved, too easy. I have a issue with pornography, so I don't watch it. If others choose to watch porn, that' their right. Live and let live. Also, you can believe in no god, its your right and I would never "step on your toes". I hope you are not offended if I pray for you.

spainlinx0 I can't agree with you more if I tried. baracine I love Jesus(he was a Jew) and I don't blame Jews for Christ's death and this film did nothing to make me hate Jews. However, I know anti-Semites may try to use this film to further their own sick ideology. Education is the best defense. True Christians Do Not blame the Jews. Your opinion of the film is your opinion and I am glad we live in America where we can have a difference of opinion.

Again I say, I am most grateful that we can all disagree with words and ideas and leave it at that. I am so glad that our Service Men and Women have given us these rights.

Jackskeleton

No doubt about that. But as it stands, the quality is not as good as it could/should/would be and so it suffers from that. The whole industry is filled with that sort of thing. A lot of quantity and a lack of quality. I'm all up for some fiction story telling.

Not offended at all. I used to be a man for the church. was an alter server and was actually going to go into the whole priesthood steps for some time. Then long story short, I just walked away. I just don't believe in that anymore and that makes me feel good. I can understand if someone else believes in it and it makes them feel good. I have no right to step on their toes and tell them they are wrong to believe in that. It is all their own choice to believe and if it makes you feel good, better, happy. Then what right do I have to impose my views on the matter on you? get what I'm saying?

I would love it if those who find problems with graphic violence to simply choose not to purcahse or view it instead of condeming others on their choice to view it.

zombiezilla

Actually, I'm offended that you pray at all.

We're in the 21st century now, people, try to join the rest of us. Science is the one true God. Worship the science (and respect it, too) or be left in the dust.

The Cow

Yeah, i'm sure you are... How does that affect you in any way?

I agree with Jack and others that this was worth a watch, but replay value is slim. His analogy to Shindler's list is right on, that's pretty much what we have here.

Julie Walker

It was a typo. I noticed it long after I posted it. That is the honset truth. No insult intended,but I am sure some will believe otherwise.

Quote:

I almost forgot. Just because children want, does not mean they are ready or can handle the content. I could give example after example but will save every ones time. Your rational in your 4th paragraph is not logical and is absurd (to me) at best, but whatever.

While that may be true. At least they are willing to give something a shot,then if they can't handle it. More than likely would turn it off,which is a rational thing to do. But if they don't want to watch something and are forced to view it regardless. That can't be that healthy at all and who knows what may happen with countless exposure to(extreme mature) stuff they didn't want to watch,but were forced to?


I can use myself for example. I thought I could handle anything and have been seeing graphic films since I was 11.

When I rented Videodrome for the first time when I was about 12. I had seen other Cronenberg films before. So I thought I should check it out,not knowing what it was about,other than something about tv taking over or something. Seemed reasonable harmless,until I actually tried viewing the film.

I didn't expect the S&M graphic violence and sexual torture aspects to be apart of the film,nor knew what they were at the time. So it was a major shock to the system,that I ended up turning it off after 30 minutes. Since I was afraid of just how far the film was going and where it would lead + my parents would flip out if they saw it(since we only had one tv in the living room..and it was early in the evening!).

I did not see the entire film until 5 years later when I was 17 and rented it again, to see the whole film finally. I could handle it then and it became one of my all time favorite Cronenberg films along with Scanners & The Fly.

Now had I sat through the entire thing,despite wanting to turn it off,since the content was just too much for my naive gulible mind at the time. I could have ended up having an extreme fear of sexuality(puberty was about to hit,so scary mysterious times with no one to go to,since we are taught to be shamed of our bodies our entire lives...which is one of many reasons,I gave up on church and organized religion in general and would prefer not to bother with it,can believe in god,which I do,but don't bother with organized religion and all that jazz).

Meanwhile when I was a more mature 17 year old,open minded about sexuality and stuff. The film did not phase me so badly and I was able to enjoy the original twisted storyline.


So if someone wants to watch the film. Let them,if they don't,then don't force them to. It is really that simple and that is the main concern myself and others are expressing.

Pretty easy concept to grasp,but instead the "Why don't you let the parents decide how to raise their kids" excuse is always given. Ironic that the same people who say that and force their kids to view this film,are the same ones constantly complaining about the content of every other film out there,and telling people how to raise their kids!

Isn't that ironic,don't ya think? I guess now you know how it feels

The Cow

Who are forcing their kids to watch this movie? I must missed that news flash...

PatrickMcCart

sci·ence (sns)
n.

1. The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.
2. Such activities restricted to explaining a limitied class of natural phenomena.
3. Such activities applied to an object of inquiry or study.
4. Knowledge, especially that gained through experience.

Jergen

I wonder if people will come to regret buying this movie since this isn't the type of movie you will watch over and over. I bet we will see a bunch of used copies for sale at Blockbuster and Hollywood Video in a few months after the hype dies down.