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El-Kabong 09-22-04 10:47 PM

Count me in!

Wait - does that mean we have to have anti-BBC trolls threadcrapping everywhere? Hmmm, this is gonna require more thought.

As for the Dalek movies, while I certainly prefer the Real Version, I don't think that the movies are all THAT bad. One big point: Peter Cushing is always a pleasure to watch.

The downer is of course that although having to compress the story from 7 and 6 episodes respectively, they managed to have the story drag in places just as much as the originals.

(Not that the originals are bad, just that the Daleks *NEEDS* to be watched in small half hour chunks. A marathon 3-hour blitz really points out the flaws of the story that would get missed in the episodic format)

I just wish that the R1 Invasion Earth 2150 wasnt the messed up print, or that they sold DEoE by itself in R2. Oh well, whachay gonna do?

El-Kabong 09-23-04 11:24 AM

Well, my copy of Ghostlight showed up yesterday. I worked late, so I didnt get a chance to watch much beyond some of the extras and a bit of an episode - so I cant give you the full report, but here are my initial impressions.

Of all the discs out thusfar, this is one with the worst looking video (strange, considering this was the last - and thus the newest - episode). Not that it's BAD, but with the low lighting levels, there was just only so much they could do with the footage. In the end, it just doesnt look as 'grand' as like Seeds of Death or Tomb of the Cybermen.

The extras were excellent as usual - perhaps a bit light considering how much room they had on the disc. Being the last episode filmed, I would have hoped for some kind of wrap party footage, or the Who legacy - something like that.

I guess all in all, since Ghostlight wasnt my favorite story, with a restoration that doesnt quite meet my high expectations - I'd say that its a solid disc, but I'm looking foward to the LiT set or Horror of Fang Rock way more.

CaptGideon 09-23-04 12:01 PM

Just curious - How many of you are selective about which Doctor Who DVDs you buy? Up until now I've been buying all of the DVDs as they come out in the U.S. I'm a big fan of Doctors 3-5, I like Doctors 1 & 2 and I'm enough of a fanatic to buy the better stories for Doctors 6 & 7.

But looking ahead to next year's UK titles, Claws of Axos and Horror of Fang Rock are apparently confirmed according to Outpost Gallifrey. OG also mentioned DVD rumors concerning The Web Planet, The Mind Robber and Attack of the Cyberman. Aside from The Mind Robber, I'm not a big fan of this handful of episodes. I think I'll be tempted to skip some of these stories once these title come to the U.S.

But, odds are, I will buy them all. The special features alone are generally worth the price of the DVD. And even the weaker stories can be entertaining to watch once in a blue moon. And my old video recordings of TV broadcasts from the 80s & 90s have seen better days.

Whenever I'm trying to rationalize buying DVDs for weaker Dr Who stories, I ask myself if I'd buy my least favorite story, The Twin Dilemma. So long as there are interesting special features, I probably would.

El-Kabong 09-23-04 02:00 PM

I'm in for the whole thing. Being a completeist aside, I figure that even the Bad Who will have some good points about it - extras and what have you. 'Sides, after a hundred and 147 episodes, whats another 2 or 3, huh?

turborobb 09-23-04 02:31 PM


Just curious - How many of you are selective about which Doctor Who DVDs you buy?
as long as they have the quality and extra features that the DVD's now do, I will buy them all... even my least favorite stories like "Kinda" and "Delta and the Bannermen", which, Delta, I understand has lots of extra material from it.

However, if the BBC change thier minds and start releasing extra-less DVD's I doubt I would buy them all if it was something I already had on VHS Video.

Is Twin Dilemma really your worst favorite stiory? I was so surprised how disliked that story is when I found online Doctor Who fans, I always thought it was one of the best 80's stories.

The Valeyard 09-23-04 03:22 PM

I'm in for the long haul. I plan on picking up every single DVD they plan to release. The extras alone are worth it.

Yeah. I'm a Who whore!

Andrew

Regurgitator 09-23-04 03:39 PM

Just a note of curiosity.. when will the new tv series come out on DVD? Any word on that or is that too far ahead to think about already?

I presume it'll take a long time before we see the new series on TV here in North America so it may be better for us to get them on DVD to watch sooner.

El-Kabong 09-23-04 04:10 PM

I saw a note from the BBC worldwide saying that they anticipated having the new series out in the US as quickly as possible. So we might have a little bit of lag, but not as much as you might think.

(Of course, I know folks in the UK who will be recording for me and sending the tapes right away. I expect a weeks lag between premere and my seeing the episode. :) )

Dai 09-23-04 05:38 PM

I buy every DVD that comes out.

I haven't seen very many of the older B&W episodes, but will glady buy any unseen episodes.


BTW, how many people listen to the Big Finish audios?

I have the majority of them and have put them into DVD cases to match the DVDs! I've got about almost 2 shelves worth!

The Valeyard 09-23-04 07:14 PM


Originally posted by El-Kabong
(Of course, I know folks in the UK who will be recording for me and sending the tapes right away. I expect a weeks lag between premere and my seeing the episode. :) )

And....you live where....exactly....?

:)

Andrew

The Valeyard 09-23-04 07:17 PM


Originally posted by Dai
BTW, how many people listen to the Big Finish audios?

I have the majority of them and have put them into DVD cases to match the DVDs! I've got about almost 2 shelves worth!


I use to collect the audios but gave up. The writing became pretty stale for my taste. Last one I got was Zagreus and was pretty much turned off by the whole thing.

I did like the Unbound series (well, the one's I heard).

andrew

El-Kabong 09-23-04 08:05 PM


Originally posted by The Valeyard
And....you live where....exactly....?

:)

Tell you guys what - *IF* my contact comes through for me like I anticipate, then we can talk about . . . . um, getting you guys a chance to see them. Since this isnt VHSTalk, we'll take it off the board as the time draws near.

Still, they dont even have a premere date yet - we have some time.

As for the Big Finish audios, I um . . collect them. Some are quite good (as I mentioned the Colin Baker ones before) and some are quite dreadful (Ish, for starters) - just like the real TV show they are baised on. For the most part, however I do enjoy them. It's less intensive than trying to keep up on the books (I gave up on those years ago - the Scream of the Shakla novel aside)

The Exister 09-23-04 08:34 PM

I'm also buying all the Who DVD's. So far I'm about five or so behind, but I'm slowly catching up...

turborobb 09-24-04 05:21 AM


BTW, how many people listen to the Big Finish audios?
I used to get almost all of them, but slowly lost interest in the last year. Omega was the last one I got. I kind of gave up after that. Some were really great, mostly the Colin Baker audios and some of the McGann ones.

my favorites were "One Doctor" (Colin Baker), "Bloodtide" (Colin Baker), "Jubille" (Colin Baker), "Red Dawn" (Peter Davison), "Mutant Phase" (Peter Davison), "Genocide Machine" (Sylvester McCoy), "Sword of Orion" (Paul McGann), "Eye of the Scorpion" (Peter Davison), Marian Conspiracy (Colin Baker), "Colditz" (Sylvester McCoy), Project Twilight" (Colin Baker), "Seasons of Fear" (Paul McGann), "Spare Parts" (Peter Davison), "Pirates" (Colin Baker)

however, there were some that are just horrible. I can sit and watch my least favorite Doctor Who TV episodes and find something to enjoy, but "Time and the Daleks" (McGann), "ish" (C Baker), "Minuet in Hell" (McGann), Rapture (McCoy) and a few others have been so unlistenable I just couldn't finish them.

But there was just too many disappointing ones to be spending $25-$30 each importing them. It seemed for every great one there would be 1 or 2 bad ones. It seems they are tring to hard to be weird and artsy with the audios instead of just giving us a great straight up Doctor Who story.

BIG FINISH WHAT??
- for those of you who have no idea what the hell we are talking about, there's a company in the UK called Big Finish who have been releasing audio Doctor Who adventures on CD (kind of like radio plays) with the actors from the original series playing the parts. (no, Tom Baker hasn't done any yet) sadly you have to import them into the USA and it runs about $25 for one double disc story. However, I've picked some up on ebay for as low as $8

here's the web site...
http://www.doctorwho.co.uk/drwho/index.shtml

CaptGideon 09-24-04 09:31 AM

Big Finish Audios
 

Originally posted by The Valeyard
I use to collect the audios but gave up. The writing became pretty stale for my taste. Last one I got was Zagreus and was pretty much turned off by the whole thing.

I did like the Unbound series (well, the one's I heard).

andrew

I have all of the audios in the main Big Finish series. I still subscribe to them, in the hopes that some good stories will come along. But I agree that the quality has declined the last couple of years. The Natural History of Fear was great. Zagreus was good overall, but it could have been shorter. But that could be said about a lot of the TV stories. I have to give Big Finish credit for being experimental. Stories like Scherzo, Dr Who and the Pirates, and Master tried to different, even though they really didn't work for me.

I haven't kept up with all of the spin-offs. The new Gallifrey and Unbound series sound interesting, but I haven't heard them.

CaptGideon 09-24-04 09:46 AM

Twin Dilemma
 

Originally posted by turborobb
Is Twin Dilemma really your worst favorite stiory? I was so surprised how disliked that story is when I found online Doctor Who fans, I always thought it was one of the best 80's stories.
Yeah, it really it. This is all just my opinion of course, but the story failed for me on just about every level.

The thing that hurts the most is how they made The Doctor so unlikable. He's constantly selfish and, worst of all, he tries to kill Peri. That really crossed the line. They didn't need to go that far. The whole unstable regeneration theme of the story was a poor excuse for his behavior.

The story, the main villian, and those henchmen with a few feathers glued to their faces all felt lame to me.

But, as I said before, toss in some interesting special features, and I would buy The Twin Dilemma on DVD. Sad but true.

Shiv Shankly 09-24-04 11:59 AM

I've been lurking in this thread for a while, but I am finally breaking down and posting. I was a huge Dr Who fan in the 80s and early 90s, before giving up on the show when it finally ceased production. The Colin Baker and McCoy eras were huge duds to me (The Twin Dilemma utterly stunk, and Timelash, yeesh), but I'm curious to re-visit some of the McCoy stuff to see if it's any better now. I finally picked up my first Who DVD the other day with Pyramids of Mars, and it was just as good as I remember in 1985 when I used to watch it all the time. Now if they can just get a release of "The Deadly Assassin" out there, I'd be ecstatic. Though "Horror of Fang Rock" is a great choice next year as well.

shill66 09-24-04 02:25 PM

I've been buying all of the DVDs, both region 2 and region 1. I gave up on the audios mostly due to cost.

The new series start is looking like it might be March.

turborobb 09-25-04 03:11 AM

for anyone interested, they posted an article on the DVD restoration of "Horror of Fang Rock" on the restoration team website

http://www.restoration-team.co.uk/

The Valeyard 09-25-04 03:37 AM

New ONE & ONLY DOCTOR WHO DVD THREAD is here:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=387377


Please continue all conversations there. Any Moderators, please lock this Thread up and turn off the lights.

Thanks!

Andrew


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