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Scaramanga 06-16-04 06:47 AM

[SIP] The Star Wars Saga
 
Some of you might have catched a glimpse of these somewhere else already, some might not.

At least I can post the previews here without risking my neck ;-)

http://www.roderidder.be/Scara/SW-42.jpg

http://www.roderidder.be/Scara/SW-33.jpg

This ain't the entire series though, I plan on making a cover for:
- an Original Trilogy boxset (quick question: 4disc cover or 6/7 disc cover ? you all know why I say 4 or 6/7 I presume ....)
- R2-D2 Beneath The Dome
- Ewoks: Caravan of Courage
- Ewoks: Battle for Endor
- the infamous Holiday Special
- a Prequel trilogy boxset cover (6 discs)
- finally a special cover for what ever other additional making off dvd's you may have. Thinking about things like Star Wars: The Definitive Collection, "The Making of a Trilogy" Collection, Volume 2 ("From Star Wars to Jedi" & "The Story of Star Wars"), TV Specials, Trailer Colelction, etc etc.

This last one will be available in bith the boxset style (which will be a slight variaton on the covers as seen above) and the normal style (as seen above) so it'll match which ever one syou'll have once I throw them out there.

If I find enough art for it, I might even just make covers for all of the above mentionned special features / making off discs.

If you know off any other discs or if you've got something I haven't mentionned. Feel free to let me know and I'll be sure to take it into serious consideration to make a cover for it.

I hope you like the covers :)

EDIT: ROTJ, TESB and TPM are finished 100%. AOTC, ANH and Clone Wars still need (high-res or alternate) art for the back area.

EDIT2: If any of you would by any chance have a high res textless version of the TPM poster and would be willing to share it with me, that would be very much appreciated. The one I have is high res, but has title and credits on it, thus making it look weird in comparison to AOTC.

Forum Troll 06-16-04 06:53 AM

Do you need a hi-res scan of the Ewoks titles? I have those Laserdiscs, and can gladly make then available to you.

Scaramanga 06-16-04 06:56 AM


Originally posted by Forum Troll
Do you need a hi-res scan of the Ewoks titles? I have those Laserdiscs, and can gladly make then available to you.
It would be more then appreciated :)

JupiterPrime 06-16-04 08:53 AM

These just keep getting better and better - I sort of disagree with your choice of back image for Episode 4, the Tatooine system....As far as needing stuff for Ep. 4, I think I still have some of the Ep. 4 art I tracked down to put together my SW series archived somewhere, and will see if there is anything suitable (that I didnt use already - mine is more of a collage set of backs) that I can send over.

I gotta fairly good res version (could be better IMO) of the TPM poster that I used for my TPM cover - its not as good as the one I found for AOTC (very clean) but, you know where you can get it if you want to check its quality

Scaramanga 06-16-04 08:58 AM


Originally posted by JupiterPrime
I sort of disagree with your choice of back image for Episode 4, the Tatooine system....

AOTC, ANH and Clone Wars still need (high-res or alternate) art for the back area
So the art seen on those is temporary ... don't like the one I have for ANH myself ... justa placeholder.

There should be some action in the picture as is quite clear on TESB, ROTJ and TPM ... something similar is what i'm looking for to use for ANH

Scaramanga 06-16-04 09:05 AM


Originally posted by JupiterPrime
I gotta fairly good res version (could be better IMO) of the TPM poster that I used for my TPM cover - its not as good as the one I found for AOTC (very clean) but, you know where you can get it if you want to check its quality
Hmm ... is it completely textless ? ... it really needs to be for me to be able to match the size and layout of the AOTC front , otherwise there's always gonna be some text in my way to make to it work :(

Rizor 06-16-04 09:34 AM

They look pretty. :)

JupiterPrime 06-16-04 09:47 AM


Originally posted by Scaramanga
is it completely textless ? ... it really needs to be for me to be able to match the size and layout of the AOTC front , otherwise there's always gonna be some text in my way to make to it work :(
After looking at it, mine is more or less the same size/crop as what you've got on yours, just with solid black around the areas that you cannot see.

I was actually experimenting with the one sample sample you had sent me and surprisingly enough, there is a lot of interchangability between yours and mine (your back with my front and vice versa within your "dirty steel" panel - cuz i really dig your panels but I'm kinda partial to my back collages :) )

Anyways, perhaps later tonight I can scope out my contruction files and isolate that image if your interested in trying it out for yourself.

Scaramanga 06-16-04 09:52 AM

Can't hurt to try ;)

JupiterPrime 06-16-04 10:41 AM

there is only thing I might suggest, but it may not work because of the "ROTJ" text on the poster and I'm assuming one of two things:

1) you wanted to get all of Darth into the image
2) the ROTJ title text begins JUST where you cropped on bottom

My suggestion is to clip off just a little of DV at the top (30-40 pixels maybe) and show just that much more of Leia on the bottom (a slight shift upwards) - assuming the title text would allow for such a shift, only because the way it is now, it all looks just a tad bottom-heavy if you know what I mean.

Scaramanga 06-16-04 11:00 AM

Well you're on top of the problem there ... that's all there is of Leia :(

Right beneath it is the silver bar of the logo / text.

CanadianKnight 06-16-04 12:17 PM

Damn fine lookin' stuff there Scara! (And welcome back!)

DarthVong 06-16-04 12:36 PM

Nice work!

Scaramanga 06-16-04 12:40 PM

Thx both of you :)

Gore_Hound_X 06-16-04 02:48 PM

I noticed this set at "the other place" but couldn't comment on them there.

Great Looking covers scara, I bet these look great printed and sitting next to each other.

Also you mentioned you might try to do covers for ANY star wars related stuff, well I happen to own the complete animated series' of Ewoks and Droids and I didn't see Troops listed (it's available as part of the Total Movie DVD series) and if you can find any artwork a matching cover for The Dark Redemption short film would be great :)
(I collect any "rare" SW stuff I can find)

Randy810 06-16-04 03:14 PM

Wonderful work Scaramanga

Welcome home

Randy810 06-16-04 03:24 PM

Gore_Hound_X

You probaly are aware of this site. It has TROOPERS and DARK REDEMPTION as well as many other fan created short films.
theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/darkredemption/index.shtml

JupiterPrime 06-16-04 05:45 PM

OK - its been a while since i looked at the original file - it wasnt completely textless - I had to do a little cloning on it but the area that wound up as visible on my cover doesnt really show it - you're welcome to it if you like - just need to know how you wanna handle this transfer...its 750K

JupiterPrime 06-16-04 06:10 PM

Not to hijack your thread, but since you were kind enough to loan me the sample for silver test printing (which came out phenomenal btw), just thought I'd show you what I meant about my back in your panels/front...

http://s91419117.onlinehome.us/image...SW6_sample.jpg

As you can see i did a little moving around and cloning and replacement. One thing I did differently was do a little "cutting out" to make the text appear as if it was metal-stamped into the steel itself, like so...

http://s91419117.onlinehome.us/image...erstamping.jpg

Trouble is, Im going to have to figure out what the hell it was I did and re-do it from scratch for the others because i didnt think ahead and do it in a way that would be easilly reproducable and modifiable for the rest of the movie - D'OH!!!

anyways, once again, hope you dont mind the alterations just thought you'd like to know how i messed with it a little and maybe incorporate some if are so inclined, id be glad to help.

The only thing that makes me itch about it is, that I include a made up primary blurb INSIDE the image of my back so I had to clone out the one you had and that leaves a lot of room on my top back - such is life I guess - for its worth, I can live with it.

RyoHazuki 06-16-04 07:20 PM

Those are nice. :thumbsup:

Michael Corvin 06-16-04 10:04 PM

I like what youi have done Scara, but Jupiter has added some nice touches. I love the back. It works perfectly with the front. A little more interesting than mostly metal. I don't think you lose the metal theme at all either. You should implement some of the ideas, or work together and combine your cover with Jup's backs.

Only thing I don't like about Jup's back is the missing yellow band. It seemed to flow better when it ran across the whole cover, like Scara's original design.

JupiterPrime 06-16-04 11:08 PM

Yeah I know - I was trying to see how that band could have been salvaged - but I also put the crdits higher into the back so then I'd wind up with a band that was empty, so whats the point?

I think his backs are fine - I just spent far too much time and effort on mine not to use them (yes I am actually considering not using my covers bnecause I like what was put together here)

Scaramanga 06-17-04 02:11 AM

Well I tried image compositions at first for the back, as can be seen below:

http://www.roderidder.be/Scara/SW-15.jpg

But for some reason it just didn't work for me ... most probably because I wanted the images to be free of text, or with minimal text.

As Michael indicated too, I wanted to keep "the" stripe.

So after that I started experimenting:

http://www.roderidder.be/Scara/SW-14.jpg

http://www.roderidder.be/Scara/SW-14.jpg

Several others, but didn't keep them all on my HD ... so in the end I ended up using what I have right now

The original first draft was actually something like this:

http://www.roderidder.be/Scara/SW-01.jpg

But that didn't work for the front ...

So in the end I decided to go for the simple back as a compromise, i'm not entirely satisfied with it, but I've learned to accept it :)
All the logos had to go and a simple sub-panel allowed me to put the text on there. I never really liked the back the way it was on my SE VHS tapes, which is about the same style Jupiter uses here.

But I'll make sure you get a high res layered background for personal use Jupiter ;-)

EDIT: Another thing that made me go for the current design is the fact that it would have been extremely hard to make acceptable compositions for all the "other discs" out there. thinking off all the making off discs then and several others like the 2 Ewoks features and the likes.
All things I had to take into consideration when coming up with a template.

EDIT2: Last exam today, after that I'm gonna make the boxset covers first of all. They will contain little or no images, Jupiter knows what I'm talking about then ;-)

Sneak preview of the basic idea (still needs quite a few changes though:

http://www.roderidder.be/Scara/SW-09.jpg

Michael Corvin 06-17-04 07:47 AM

I like this one as much as Jups. The plain one. Although, I liked the republic/empire logos on the spines of your other ones.

B4Bishop 06-17-04 10:18 AM

Beautiful. When those are done I'll have to replace the one's I've got!


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